What is the FEH explanation for lunar eclipses?

Quote from: ThinkingMan on August 16, 2012, 11:33:32 AM

Lunar Eclipses always occur at night. The sun is not visible at night. Just as solar eclipses always occur during the day. If similar light wavelengths canceled (or phased) each other out, as you suggest, then shining two flashlights at one another at the same exact angle would produce not light and shadow behind each flashlight. And, of course the light from the sun is a similar wavelength to moonlight. For one, the light from the moon is light reflected off of it's surface from the sun. For two, all visible light is a similar wavelength.

I have seen the selenelion with my own eyes. I assure you it very much exists. Clearly the two light waves from your flashlights are not exactly half-out of phase then. If they were it would be dark. This is simple physics.

You said that the light reflected from earth and the light from the moon were half out of phase because they were of similar wavelength. This should also be true of two of the same flashlights, should it not?

No. I did not say they were out of phase because they were of similar wavelength. Read carefully.

At anyrate, we know that moonlight and sunlight are similar in wavelength. Under rare circumstances moonlight and the light reflected from the earth superimpose directly out of phase. The resulting wave interference is the cause of the eclipse.

No. I did not say they were out of phase because they were of similar wavelength. Read carefully.

Quote from: ski

At anyrate, we know that moonlight and sunlight are similar in wavelength. Under rare circumstances moonlight and the light reflected from the earth superimpose directly out of phase. The resulting wave interference is the cause of the eclipse.

I see. However, what is your source for this causing an eclipse?

Observation and the science of wave propagation.

Observation and the science of wave propagation.

The production of light by the Moon still remains unexplained, nor are the phases of the Moon, the semi-eclipses and why sometimes should both lights should be in exact opposition of phase. And I don't mention that if the Moon and the Sun might have the same wavelength, their respective strengh is completely different, so it is impossible.

Observation and the science of wave propagation.

Science? I thought you were a zetetic...

Anywhere in this science, did you manage to find an explanation as to why the moon disappears as if there's a black circle going over it instead of just fading from view?

If the sun were as far away as posited by RE theory, and the sizes and shapes of the earth and moon were as assumed by RET the moon would be completely darkened as the stars would prove insufficient to even dimly light the moon.
We know lunar eclipses have also occurred where the sun and moon are both visible at the same time. This also argues strongly against a RE explanation for lunar eclipses -- indeed it seems impossible.
Far from the assumed "proof" of the earth's rotundity as commonly stated, I find the lunar eclipse one of weaker areas of predictive power of RE -- strongly contradicting the assumed model.

We should not expect the Moon to completely disappear as it passes into the Earth's umbra.  Some light from the Sun will still be scattered or refracted by the Earth's atmosphere onto the Moon's surface.  RET predicts that.

Selenelions are not 'impossible' in RET.  It's predicted.  You say you've seen one yourself.  I predict that the Sun and Moon appeared very near the horizon and in opposite parts of the sky.

These are not falsifications of a round Earth; they are verifications.

Some prediction.

The sun and moon are using the earth as a pivot for a seesaw?

Some prediction.

I don't think I understand what you're trying to show me in those images.  Can you clarify for me, please?

The first depicts the observed; the second depicts RE's explanation for an eclipse.

Some prediction.

Kinda hard to make accurate predictions if the images are not to scale.

The first depicts the observed; the second depicts RE's explanation for an eclipse.

Ah, I see what you're getting at.

So my prediction was correct?  You saw them near the horizon and on opposite sides?  Don't you find it even slightly curious that I can make such an accurate prediction with such little information?  If you tell me where/when you saw the eclipse, I can even predict in what direction they were oriented.

Your observations are explained and predicted by atmospheric refraction.