NASA's Mars Missions are Fake

Look at the computer screens behind this NASA scientist. The martian skies are blue!

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Here is a video showing how NASA faked the shots of its most recent rover missions (excuse the bad music):

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I believe the above evidence is particularly damning and demonstrates that the shots are fake and were really shot on earth in a desert somewhere.

Quote from: mexicanwave on September 20, 2012, 07:13:48 AM

I think it would be MORE expensive to fake something of this scale than actually do it.

It's more expensive to clear an area with weed killer than it is to build and send a robot to mars?

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 20, 2012, 07:22:48 AM

Quote from: mexicanwave on September 20, 2012, 07:13:48 AM

I think it would be MORE expensive to fake something of this scale than actually do it.

It's more expensive to clear an area with weed killer than it is to build and send a robot to mars?

Weed killer may kill a plant but it does not magically remove all trace of the plant.
Branches, twigs, dead leaves, roots...

Unless you have some incredibly powerful weedkiller?
As in MAGIC weedkiller?

Do you mean like the lichens on these rock which NASA forgot to remove, as seen by the Spirit rover?

Check me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the primary reasons for sending various rovers to Mars, to look for evidence of life?  If that truly was lichen, don't you suppose that NASA would scream: "Hey, we just found life on Mars!!" ? 

Do you mean like the lichens on these rocks which NASA forgot to remove, as seen by the Spirit rover?

Quote from: markjo on September 22, 2012, 09:40:03 AM

Check me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the primary reasons for sending various rovers to Mars, to look for evidence of life?  If that truly was lichen, don't you suppose that NASA would scream: "Hey, we just found life on Mars!!" ? 

Not if the missions were being faked and NASA didn't properly clear out the area before the mission. The Spirit didn't even stop to study it. It just drove right past it.

For those of you who remain convinced that NASA is covering up some sort of “major” finding here, just remember a few things:

1.    This image was released back in May of 2004, just a couple of days after it was taken by Opportunity. MER Principal Investigator Steve Squyres made the decision before the mission started to release all the images taken by the rovers and make them freely available to anyone. If NASA was hiding something, they wouldn’t have posted this image, as well as all the other images of the area that are available. Please, go look at them all if you have any doubt.

2.   The best planetary geologists on Earth have looked at this image, and have all concluded this is just a rock. It’s an interesting rock, but a rock nonetheless. Think again if you believe some internet sleuths out there have a better understanding of this object than highly trained and experienced planetary scientists.

3.   If this object really was a piece of wood, NASA and all the scientists on the MER mission would probably be shouting from the rooftops. As Jim Bell said, it would be incredible and spectacular, and don’t think for a minute these scientists wouldn’t be jumping for joy if they found something as amazing as log on Mars.

And I suppose the wooden log on the left hand side of this image is merely a rock carved by micrometeorites to look like a piece of wood.

So you're saying that it might be petrified wood like your photo? That it looks like petrified wood, and NASA first deliberately didn't test it even after running it over?

Isn't it possible a railroad tie was buried beneath the sand "on set" and was uncovered by "martian" sandstorm.

Isn't it possible a railroad tie was buried beneath the sand "on set" and was uncovered by "martian" sandstorm.

Again, it is being assumed that NASA is flawless and competent.

Seriously, do you guys even listen to yourselves? In one thread we hear arguments like "NASA could never pull off a scam on the public undetected," and in threads like this one we hear arguments to the effect of "NASA wouldn't make mistakes." Which is it?

This could very well be the result of being missed in review. Or perhaps a  few photos were renamed wrongly or put into the incorrect directory and never reviewed. Maybe there was a backup restore to some of the server files during the review, and some deleted files got restored. There are a thousand and one ways this could have been a result of incompetence.

the smartest thing said so far is to point out the obvious;
"if it was petrified wood or any sign of life, then nasa would be able to ask for even more money for future missions."

im glad you took my advice tom and joined another comedy nasa thread.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 23, 2012, 12:13:51 PM

Again, it is being assumed that NASA is flawless and competent.

Seriously, do you guys even listen to yourselves? In one thread we hear arguments like "NASA could never pull off a scam on the public undetected," and in threads like this one we hear arguments to the effect of "NASA wouldn't make mistakes." Which is it?

This could very well be the result of being missed in review. Or perhaps a  few photos were renamed wrongly or put into the incorrect directory and never reviewed. Maybe there was a backup restore to some of the server files during the review, and some deleted files got restored. There are a thousand and one ways this could have been a result of incompetence.

I'm still far convinced that its not just a slab of rock being eroded in an irregular pattern that just looks like wood.  I certainly don't see it as evidence for a giant space travel conspiracy.  If it is a log (which i don't think it really looks like), then I think a more likely story is that one of their Rover test photos made it in to the wrong folder, and NASA was too embarrassed to admit it.  So rather than admit that they identically threw in an old picture of the rover bing tested on earth they just hoped no one noticed.  But even that is less likely than us just seeing a upward facing rock slab that has been eroded at its tip to give it a somewhat log like definition.

I certainly think that NASA is fallible.  The thing is that mistake does not equal giant space conspiracy.