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squevil

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the solar system
« on: May 25, 2012, 05:00:07 PM »
am i right in thinking that the main view point of the fes is that the sun and moon are at 3000 miles and the rest is about 3100 miles above us? on the 5-6 of june it will be possible to see venus travel past the sun. infact it does every 8 years and this was how people first started to measure the suns distance to the earth scientificly.

on a flat earth note, some say the moon is translucent and starts can be seen through it. however if venus is able to travel in fron tof the sun, surely a star can pass in front of the moon? as there is little/no evidence to suggest that the moon is transparent, wouldnt it be more logical to suggest that the star would travel in front of the moon? solar eclipses would show if the moon was translucent wouldnt they? so the zetetic answer would be that the stars sometimes travel closer than 3000 miles. and so does venus for that matter.

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iwanttobelieve

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 05:10:05 PM »
do to the uneven earth of the earth, the sun, and moon arent always at fixed distances away.
and remember "planets" are very small insignificant objects, no bigger than a large house.

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 09:20:25 PM »
you make no sense strange kid...

you do know nasa landed on both the moon and mars right (or atleast thats what most people believe)? so how can you back nasa and then say that mars is no bigger than a house. what is your point? infact why do you even post here at all? your obviously some troll guy who just has 1000 posts containing the same 4 things. dam i can sum up your next post now;

faqqer
nasa
lord wilmore
conspiracy

copy that to your desktop and just paste it for the next 1000 posts to save your 'efforts'.

p.s. sorry guys but there are 1 or 2 people who post here who drive me insane, this moron being one of them

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 07:23:48 AM »
I am sorry if I slightly bother you.
I can not help that I am a Zetetic.
Most of those here are not.


( i dint use any of your words)  ;)

I hope you have a good day,

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squevil

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 09:14:10 AM »
no you didnt that time, quite shocking. but neither have you answered my questions.

is mars the size of a house?

why do you make posts saying how zetetic you are all the time, yet your efforts here contradict the last post you make every time you post.


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Ryan Onessence

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 07:16:47 PM »
You want to hear one of my takes on it?
http://soundcloud.com/orin-zolis/sets/world-music-ethnic-beats/

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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 07:34:55 PM »
spray it

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Ryan Onessence

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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 10:48:16 PM »
well what is seen as the stars and planets may very well simply be the projected image of another geothermal pocket of the infinite plane taking a very long arch from its origin..

It might even be plausible to say that its arc-velocity of light in contrast with our sun's when it's projection crosses the sun's path creates a distortion due to different wavelengths - creating a cancellation effect on the projected planet hence it turns dark - or inverted - similar to how sun spots can appear dark or even how the sun when viewed for a split second with the naked eye can be seen as a dark circle surrounded by intense light
http://soundcloud.com/orin-zolis/sets/world-music-ethnic-beats/

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Ryan Onessence

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 10:58:45 PM »
This was a pretty good explanation of infinite earth from a user on GLP
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I love threads like this because they challenge the brain. OK ill attempt to come up with a workable hypothesis...

Supposing it was an infinate plane:

As you stand on earth and look down, you see a flat section of the plane, but as you look further out you come to the horizon, the point where the distance of that section of the plane is so far away that you no longer have a perpendicular perspective, but rather by comparison, your height Above the plane is now so miniscule as a percentage of the distance of the plane that you might as well be parallel to it.

Therefore when you look to the distance, you see a horizon. Looking down is like seeing the flat part of a knife, looking in the distance is like seeing the edge of a knife. Thats why we see a horizon on an infinate plane.

example:

suppose you are ther dot below, and the plane is below you

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you see the flat part.

now look in the distance...you see the edge and the flat dissapears.

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Thats what causes the horizon.

Now heres the magical part:

If the plane is infinate, the horizon should always be there no matter what.

So if you begin to go higher and higher, you will see a wider streatch of the flat plane, but the horizen will ALWAYS be there, in all different directions. And it will ALWAYS appear parallel to you.

If you get far enough away from the plane, it will look like a circle, because the edges are the horizon which are parallel to you can not break the infinate horizon and the flat part that is directly belowe you simply gets further away the higher you go. The circle will just appear to get smaller.

Thats why stars . Appear smaller than the moon and why we always see the same part of the moon and never the "Dark Side".

From this distance we merely see the flat section of the moon that we are directly above, and the edges are merely the ever extending infinate horizon that is parallel to us.
From this distance we merely see that as ROUND.
http://soundcloud.com/orin-zolis/sets/world-music-ethnic-beats/

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squevil

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 09:11:15 AM »
this is the best and clearest explanation of a horizon. maybe thats what TB etc have been trying to say all along but balls it up and make it confusing by adding words like perspective in that tend to make you think of it differently to how you just described it.
but as interesting as it is, it has nothing to do with venus passing in front of the sun in just over a weeks time.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2012, 09:13:17 AM »
we know the planets are very small (at least the inner planets) because in realtion to the sun which is 300 Miles in diamater,
Mercury, venus and mars are extremely small, probably 1000 times smaller, making them only 30 Meters in diameter.

Now the gas planets (which probably are not planets and just dwarve stars) may be 100's - 1000 Meters across,
« Last Edit: May 28, 2012, 09:23:36 AM by iwanttobelieve »

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squevil

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 09:19:21 AM »
does 'm' stand for miles because last time i checked it was meters.

ok then well stop talking crap about nasa because they are obviously in a conspiracy because thier photos from mars rovers do not show a 30 meter planet. they also have probes passing jupiter


"Now the gas planets (which probably are not planets and just dwarve stars) may be 100's - 1000M across"


how zetetic of you to claim this, i have to congratulate your for your good work for zetetic science


p.s you mix metric and imperial
« Last Edit: May 28, 2012, 09:27:19 AM by squevil »

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Ryan Onessence

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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2012, 02:27:55 PM »
this is the best and clearest explanation of a horizon. maybe thats what TB etc have been trying to say all along but balls it up and make it confusing by adding words like perspective in that tend to make you think of it differently to how you just described it.
but as interesting as it is, it has nothing to do with venus passing in front of the sun in just over a weeks time.

What about the post above that one - did you miss it or not understand it?
http://soundcloud.com/orin-zolis/sets/world-music-ethnic-beats/

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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2012, 03:54:59 PM »
it was just made up stuff that i honestly didnt quite understand so well. i see what your saying though. in short, they are not actual solid objects and is just a mere projection? interesting thought however there isnt much to back the wild claims.

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 01:06:41 PM »
This thread has nothing relevant to the Venus Transit, nor does the other thread.
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 03:23:29 PM »
from whos perspective? what interested me is that the fet says the moon and sun are at 3000 miles and the rest is at 3100. venus just pops down to say helol every now and then :P i read about it and was curious, i want aware of it before last week