To All of you who are Serious about This Flat Earth Idea

I am a systems engineer. I design Airplane and helicopter navigation equipment for the government.
I have questions. I know for a fact that the earth is round. Explain a sensor that tests the magnetic fields of the earth in different places all around the globe that combined with GPS tell your present position on a display of the globe. why is the magnetic field close of uniform around the globe.  Also if the world is flat why when there is an earthquake do other continents experience larger waves. How do satalites even work if the world is flat. Explain the jet wave and weather patterns Explain eclipses. And how we appear circular. In fact explain the movement of techtonic plates, volcanos, earthquake. How do you explain the density of the earth when sonic waves are used to detect it.

Bet you can't answer these!!!!!

You brought somethign I had forgoten about.  Earth quakes can be detected on the other side of the earth, not across the Surface, but through it.

I know for a fact that the earth is round.

No you don't. Go back 3 spaces.

Explain a sensor that tests the magnetic fields of the earth in different places all around the globe that combined with GPS tell your present position on a display of the globe. why is the magnetic field close of uniform around the globe.

Just change the meaning of the word "geostationary" to mean "attached to the dome of Heaven" and you'll find your answer there. As for magnetic fields, what's wrong with the idea of a circular magnetic field radiating out from the north pole equally in all directions until it reaches the wall of ice at the edge?

Also if the world is flat why when there is an earthquake do other continents experience larger waves.

...what do you mean, waves? Not with you. You mean like, sea waves, or shockwaves? Explain please.

How do satalites even work if the world is flat.

See above for geostationary satellites. As for the rest, well, they're so light (things need to be light if you're gonna send them into space, for obvious reasons) that the gravitational fields of the (tiny) stars, which pull upwards instead of down like that of Earth, drag them between them on a course predetermined by the calculations of the various space agencies. Why else do you think they go in such a wonky pattern? They go from one edge to the other along a weird pattern, and then they slingshot round over the tops of them and end up in a slightly different place, then do the round again.

Explain the jet wave and weather patterns

Not sure how these disprove God's truth about the flat Earth; enlighten me.

Explain eclipses. And how we appear circular.

Why is an unseen dark body in the sky any more likely than this ridiculous "dark matter" which "scientists" use to explain away the holes in their ridiculous theories of the Universe?

In fact explain the movement of techtonic plates, volcanos, earthquake.

Why are these inconsistent with a multi-layered, flat Earth?

How do you explain the density of the earth when sonic waves are used to detect it.

(Also answering the next poster's point) That one's easy. Even "round-world" scientists admit that the shockwaves from earthquakes appear on seismometers on other points around the Earth because they are refracted when passing through rocks of changing density. Is it not, therefore, obvious? The disc is just thick enough that the shockwaves refract to other points on it. Some shockwaves shake the bottom of the disc, too, of course - but what can you do to detect those?

Edit: I'm not a flat-earther, but actually, I'm starting to see this as a fascinating logical challenge; to provide counterarguments

"See above for geostationary satellites. As for the rest, well, they're so light (things need to be light if you're gonna send them into space, for obvious reasons) that the gravitational fields of the (tiny) stars, which pull upwards instead of down like that of Earth, drag them between them on a course predetermined by the calculations of the various space agencies. Why else do you think they go in such a wonky pattern? They go from one edge to the other along a weird pattern, and then they slingshot round over the tops of them and end up in a slightly different place, then do the round again."

A geostational orbit is exactly the same as a normal orbit, the only difference is that a geostat satellite orbits in the direction that the earth spins. An orbit of any object around a disc shaped object such as the supposed flat earth is impossible. For anything to orbit, it has to orbit around a central point(the central point being where all the gravity is focused). in a disc the the gravity is not focused on a central point so nothing can orbit it

"See above for geostationary satellites. As for the rest, well, they're so light (things need to be light if you're gonna send them into space, for obvious reasons) that the gravitational fields of the (tiny) stars, which pull upwards instead of down like that of Earth, drag them between them on a course predetermined by the calculations of the various space agencies. Why else do you think they go in such a wonky pattern? They go from one edge to the other along a weird pattern, and then they slingshot round over the tops of them and end up in a slightly different place, then do the round again."

A geostational orbit is exactly the same as a normal orbit, the only difference is that a geostat satellite orbits in the direction that the earth spins. An orbit of any object around a disc shaped object such as the supposed flat earth is impossible. For anything to orbit, it has to orbit around a central point(the central point being where all the gravity is focused). in a disc the the gravity is not focused on a central point so nothing can orbit it

I'm not saying they're orbiting the disc. They're orbiting something else. Read again carefully.

ok, f the earth is flat, why do we have day and night? and a question... is every one of you flat earth believers just a bunch of shmucks whove never been on an airplane?

ok, f the earth is flat, why do we have day and night? and a question... is every one of you flat earth believers just a bunch of shmucks whove never been on an airplane?

have you ever flown on an airplane around the world in a straight line and end up in the same place? just because you took a plane from pt A to pt B it doesnt make the earth "round" i dont see any problem with planes flying on a "flat" earth.

i would like to mention that i concur with Felix where i do belive the earth in round, but why im here arguing with idiots is; just because they can   mimic (copy and paste) other peoples theories or ideas, it  doesnt mean they understand the earth is round, only about 3 "round" earthers could really explain how the earth is round on this forum. the rest are either people with a big ego trying to win with stupid/unthoughtful arguments, or they are here because they are really interested in finding out the truth.

Whoo. I have an ally. Aeroplanes prove nothing, of course.

no i dont understand that the earth is round, that is why i think a flat earth is preposterous, sarcasm in case your too much of a pompus penguin to see that

it seems more like you idiots have none more nbetter to do than argue with fellow skeptics, adn ive been on a plane that traveled up 30000 feet where i could easily see the curvature of the earth, i know that the earth is round because any flight from the far-eastern places in asia, to north america, would take a hell of a lot longer,  

and nameless, im sure youve read all of my posts, so you know everything i have ever said on this forum, i can easily explain how the earth is round, and notr even use commen fucking sense as one of my arguments, the only people who are retards making fun of flat earthers instead of actually discussing ith em, are guests!

and it seems you and felix have less to do than I in that not only are you cruising this forum, but your not even taking sides, your making stupid ass posts trying to back up a theory you dotn even believe! so dont fucking lecture me about mimicing theorys, and being a dick! cause you both seem to be heavy in that category

and it seems you and felix have less to do than I in that not only are you cruising this forum, but your not even taking sides, your making stupid ass posts trying to back up a theory you dotn even believe! so dont fucking lecture me about mimicing theorys, and being a dick! cause you both seem to be heavy in that category

You're missing my point. You don't have to believe a theory to argue for it, silly person. I'm enjoying the mental exercise here arguing for a completely unfeasible and untenable but logically possible position. Should I "take sides"? Should I stand firm for my beliefs? I don't see why I should; it's not like discussion here is serious. The admin has abandoned this site, as have any serious flat-earthers who ever inhabited it. Those who remain, anyone with a basic knowledge of how people work and a few years' experience on the Internet will tell you, are faking it, and badly.

Besides, I see you doing little useful in most of your posts. You're not trying to convince anyone. It wouldn't work anyway. This is a shadow-battle; one side fighting against itself. If you want serious debate, try somewhere else.

I'm enjoying the mental exercise here arguing for a completely unfeasible and untenable but logically possible position.

It's only possible if you ignore the real world (seasons, time zones, physics, geology, astronomy, space flights, pictures, satellites, and so on), and reduce knowledge down to the "you can't really KNOW anything" argument.  Which is completely useless, not to mention stupid.

Besides, I see you doing little useful in most of your posts. You're not trying to convince anyone. It wouldn't work anyway. This is a shadow-battle; one side fighting against itself. If you want serious debate, try somewhere else.

i am trying to convince people! i can already tell youve seen little to none of my other posts.  

and there are afew who stay behind, whom i am content to argue with.  it is important that i chew out complete idiots who by believing in the flat earth are almost proving darwin wrong.   and if theres no other reason to argue on this forum then why the fuck are you here?

So u all r saying u can go from US to Asia witout passing EU when the earth is flat ?
How possible izzit ? space travel ?

Quote from: "Felix"

Besides, I see you doing little useful in most of your posts. You're not trying to convince anyone. It wouldn't work anyway. This is a shadow-battle; one side fighting against itself. If you want serious debate, try somewhere else.

i am trying to convince people! i can already tell youve seen little to none of my other posts.  

and there are afew who stay behind, whom i am content to argue with.  it is important that i chew out complete idiots who by believing in the flat earth are almost proving darwin wrong.   and if theres no other reason to argue on this forum then why the fuck are you here?

You may be trying, but you're not actually arguing against real Flat-Earthers. Nobody here believes the theory. That much is obvious from their writing. The majority come out with "OMGZ T3H EAORTH IS FLAT YOU CNUTS TEH BIBEL SAIS SO YUO GO TO HELL FECES EATERS!" and the remainder, such as the Prophet, hide their ignorance of the real "theories" behind the Flat-Earth paradigm behind "Well, you seem to be a little defensive, don't you; afraid of your bubble being burst?"

Also, why are you so angry that I should decide to stay here for the fun I find it trying to find arguments to support such an absurd position? Like I said, I find it fun; that's reason enough. The question may well be, why are you here, "trying to convince" people you know full well cannot be convinced due to their religious fervour of something so obvious that if they could be converted to it they would have been already?

Quote from: "Felix"

I'm enjoying the mental exercise here arguing for a completely unfeasible and untenable but logically possible position.

It's only possible if you ignore the real world (seasons, time zones, physics, geology, astronomy, space flights, pictures, satellites, and so on), and reduce knowledge down to the "you can't really KNOW anything" argument.  Which is completely useless, not to mention stupid.

Yeah, I know. But I enjoy exploring the gaps After all, isn't science about finding answers to the gaps in science?

To answer the first post "Hi, I'm a systems engineer. I design systems for airplanes and helicopters. How do you explain that? There pawned". Sure, I can explain it. "Hi, I'm Santa and the earth is round cos I fly high enough to see the lot. Explain that." You can come on here and say you're Buggs Bunny, at the end of the day, you are a "round earther" just clutching at straws diving to new lows with rediculous claims of your supposed employment. What next "Hi, I'm god.....seriously. Look at location...it says I'm from heaven. Anyway, THE EARTH IS ROUND."

So u all r saying u can go from US to Asia witout passing EU when the earth is flat ?
How possible izzit ? space travel ?

i think you could do that on a round earth too.

man where do these people come from...

have you ever flown on an airplane around the world in a straight line and end up in the same place?

people have. and don't give me the whole "oh, they're just working for the government and part of the conspiracy!" c'mon, you people use that for everything. can't you think of a different lame excuse?

anyways, people have done what you mentioned above, effectively ruling out the possibility that the Earth is flat.

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have you ever flown on an airplane around the world in a straight line and end up in the same place?

people have. and don't give me the whole "oh, they're just working for the government and part of the conspiracy!" c'mon, you people use that for everything. can't you think of a different lame excuse?

anyways, people have done what you mentioned above, effectively ruling out the possibility that the Earth is flat.

How do you know that they are flying in a straight line?