Skyrim

I never bothered with Marrying. It's an aspect of the game that I just wasn't interested in too much.  Nor have I bought all the homes possible.

Anyhow I think I'm finally ready to take on the main quest, I've finished Dawnguard as a vampire, did the companion quests, Thief guild, Imperial Legion, Dark Brotherhood, several deadric quests.  I'm now fully decked out in dragonscale light armor (Legendary), dragonbone bow(Legendary), also Auriels Bow Legendary.  Plenty of dragon-bone arrows.  Yeah time to beat this game.

I married the blacksmith because he's not a bum and he gives me money.

I married the blacksmith because he's not a bum and he gives me money.

I did too, but she is scary, also she lives with another blacksmith, in the Jarl's house.

I don't know what this is all about, but this was just posted on the Bethesda facebook page.  For those without Facebook/who refuse to use it because they're grandpas, it's this image with the caption "Trailer on Monday"



WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.  I don't see anything about it anywhere else.  i'm thinking new DLC, and an awesome one at that.  I don't think we've seen the last of the Dragons OR the dragon cultists.

I don't know if there's any chance of it happening, but I would love to see the College of Winterhold questline extended. I was really disappointed when you never got to join the Psijic Order and do cool stuff with them.

I feel the same way about the Psijic Order, but I'm actually hoping that the next game takes place in Summerset so the Psijic Order can get a REAL storyline unto itself.  Seems that they built up to one during that part of Skyrim.

The DLC is going to be set in Solstheim. Apparently, the Red Mountain eruption changed the place quite a bit as well as drew in a lot of Dunmer inhabitants, so we might see some very Morrowind-esque locations.

Also, spears.

I don't know if there's any chance of it happening, but I would love to see the College of Winterhold questline extended. I was really disappointed when you never got to join the Psijic Order and do cool stuff with them.

They probably know that was the best thing they had in the vanilla game and are going to wait until the final large DLC to do it. Or at least I hope so, surely they can't just forget it?

Oh hey.  It DOES sound cool.  I wonder if with Spears you can attack whilst blocking with a shield, a-la *Souls.

Oh hey.  It DOES sound cool.  I wonder if with Spears you can attack whilst blocking with a shield, a-la *Souls.

Please, this is Bethesda we're talking about.

For someone who evidently likes Bethesda you sure do complain a lot about them.

They have their strengths, but gameplay is not one of them.

I'll be a whole lot more excited when they announce Fallout 4.  I just love that universe so much more than the elder scrolls.

I'd be happier about the idea of Fallout 4 if Bethesda doesn't actually do it.  Obsidian deserves another shot at the franchise with how fucking great New Vegas was (especially in comparison to Fallout 3).

I'd be happier about the idea of Fallout 4 if Bethesda doesn't actually do it.  Obsidian deserves another shot at the franchise with how fucking great New Vegas was (especially in comparison to Fallout 3).

Yeah, I keep coming back to new Vegas as my all time favorite.  I was really hoping that the faction system would be utilized more heavily in Skyrim.  I feel that the war with the imperials was the most boring aspect of skyrim, when it should have been at the center.  Dragons are cool and all, and I think that they should be part of the game, but I think that they should have had a very secondary role to the war itslelf.  The issue is that there is no real choice involved.  Of course you are going to fight the dragons.  I'm never torn between helping the imperials or the Nords, because frankly its just a bunch of side battles over some random castles, with an eventual seige. 

But I am left coming back to plinket and his reviews, Why should I care.  I mean the only thing that got me emotionally charged was the fact that the Imperials were going to kill me, but after that Its really just about dialog telling me of all the things both sides have done.  I wanted them to show me the effects of the war.  How about a quest line that shows a dark elf massacre committed by the nords.  How about a quest line that shows the imperials handing over suspected (but innocent) resistance supporters over to the thalmor in order to be executed.  How about bodies and battlefields, destroyed cities. 

Give me something to care about.  The war always seemed so distant to me, even while I was engaged in a battle for a castle.  I felt much more involved in new vegas.  The NCR had clear contrasts to Caesars legion, and mr house was a very interesting third wheel (I am in the process of taking over the town for myself)  You are set on a quest to recover Boon's wife from slavers, or make as many as possible pay.  You could see how the war destroyed him, it gave me a reason to fight for the NCR. 

I always felt like in skyrim they just said, "Fuck it, dragons are the coolest thing ever."  And my friend's dumbass girlfriend loved it.  She ate up.  But I was always disappointed, because the main story line did not involve choices, of course the dragons are fucking evil, of course everyone wants them dead.  It should have been A war with dragons fucking shit up, not Dragons fucking up a shit boring war.  Dragons should have been the interesting third wheel, Perhaps even a faction where you become the dragon king and take over skyrim for yourself.

I'll be a whole lot more excited when they announce Fallout 4.  I just love that universe so much more than the elder scrolls.

I wonder how they'll cope now that they already re-used the plots from Fallout 1 and 2? Personally I agree with Nomad.

I'd be happier about the idea of Fallout 4 if Bethesda doesn't actually do it.  Obsidian deserves another shot at the franchise with how fucking great New Vegas was (especially in comparison to Fallout 3).

Obsidian has a lot of Black Isle alumni in it, and it really shows with NV. It has the tone about as close as an FPS can get to the originals, and although it wasn't perfect they really made the best of their situation, not to mention the stellar DLC. Also, I hope one day they get the chance to fully realise Van Buren, if not there's always Wasteland 2.

Pretty sure I already mentioned this a page or two ago, but yeah the war in Skyrim sucks.  I'm not even bothering with it in my newest game, which is another thing that shows how weak the war is handled.  The war should rage on whether you participate or not, cities should fall in your absence.  There should be a way to remain neutral in the war without just simply not advancing the quest line because that's not really being neutral that's just not doing it.

One thing I didn't like about Fallout 3 was the extremely detailed and specific backstory you're given.  There's no opportunity for you to use your imagination and fill in the blanks about what history or experience you have.  New Vegas (just like the Elder Scrolls) handles it much better by keeping everything vague.

One thing I didn't like about Fallout 3 was the extremely detailed and specific backstory you're given.  There's no opportunity for you to use your imagination and fill in the blanks about what history or experience you have.  New Vegas (just like Skyrim and Oblivion) handles it much better by keeping everything vague.

I wouldn't say it was extremely detailed. You know who your father is, and you have a pretty good idea of how your tenth birthday went. Other than that, you make the decisions. And, of course, you know which vault you grew up in.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 03, 2012, 03:49:35 PM

One thing I didn't like about Fallout 3 was the extremely detailed and specific backstory you're given.  There's no opportunity for you to use your imagination and fill in the blanks about what history or experience you have.  New Vegas (just like Skyrim and Oblivion) handles it much better by keeping everything vague.

I wouldn't say it was extremely detailed. You know who your father is, and you have a pretty good idea of how your tenth birthday went. Other than that, you make the decisions.

Yeah but you can't pretend you were some sort of rogue convict or something.  For me it was not a big deal, I liked the growing up in the vault thing, it really immersed you in the culture of the game.  But then again its hard for me to point out any flaws in either fallout game.  Im just a fanboi.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 03, 2012, 03:49:35 PM

One thing I didn't like about Fallout 3 was the extremely detailed and specific backstory you're given.  There's no opportunity for you to use your imagination and fill in the blanks about what history or experience you have.  New Vegas (just like Skyrim and Oblivion) handles it much better by keeping everything vague.

I wouldn't say it was extremely detailed. You know who your father is, and you have a pretty good idea of how your tenth birthday went. Other than that, you make the decisions. And, of course, you know which vault you grew up in.

Unless I'm mistaken, every fallout game except new vegas has given you about the same amount of backstory.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 03, 2012, 03:49:35 PM

One thing I didn't like about Fallout 3 was the extremely detailed and specific backstory you're given.  There's no opportunity for you to use your imagination and fill in the blanks about what history or experience you have.  New Vegas (just like Skyrim and Oblivion) handles it much better by keeping everything vague.

I wouldn't say it was extremely detailed. You know who your father is, and you have a pretty good idea of how your tenth birthday went. Other than that, you make the decisions. And, of course, you know which vault you grew up in.

Let me rephrase.  It's not so much that it's "detailed," but that the setup goes out of its way to stop you from imagining any kind of interesting backstory or biographical details about yourself.  You're nineteen years old and have been living a boring life in a boring vault since you were a baby.  No matter what specifically you've been doing or what you've been like in all that time, it still all adds up to the fact that you're nineteen years old and have been living a boring life in a boring vault since you were a baby.  This was obviously intentional, and I'm sure they had some vision in mind when they wrote all this, like they were trying to really build up anticipation for the outside world, or help the player relate to the character, but it just doesn't work in a RPG to shoehorn you into this origin story.

Yeah, Fallout 3 pretty much brings you up to speed on "nothing at all happened during your life up to this point". Compare that to TES; you're just a prisoner who gets released into the world with a mission. You're not told why you were imprisoned and you don't know anything at all about what happened in your life prior to that moment. It gives you freedom to define what your character is. Most RPGs give you a choice of picking a class or a background, so if you decide to be a knight, you'll probably end up playing the game doing knightly stuff. The only option you have with Fallout 3 is "vault-dweller".

My main complaint about Skyrim has always been that I didn't care about anyone or anything. The game was amazing, but the characters were 1D and the story was boring and made even moreso by the flat characters and stiff lines.

My main complaint about Skyrim has always been that I didn't care about anyone or anything. The game was amazing, but the characters were 1D and the story was boring and made even moreso by the flat characters and stiff lines.

You think everything is amazing, don't you.

No, but I think the amount of stuff you could do, the world and just in general the game itself was amazing. It's pretty rare I'll actually play a game when I don't give a damn about the characters and/or story.

Yeah, Skyrim despite its many flaws is SO balanced out by everything it does right.  Not quite GOTYAY but it is definitely one of the best in recent time.

I can't think of a single thing that Skyrim does "right" - every aspect of the game is woefully mediocre but it's all stapled together nicely and there's a lot of it so it keeps you entertained for a good while.

I can't think of a single thing that Skyrim does "right" - every aspect of the game is woefully mediocre but it's all stapled together nicely and there's a lot of it so it keeps you entertained for a good while.

The world itself, it's landscape and the cities (although woefully small they are), is what's done right.

Quote from: Blanko on November 03, 2012, 07:02:08 PM

I can't think of a single thing that Skyrim does "right" - every aspect of the game is woefully mediocre but it's all stapled together nicely and there's a lot of it so it keeps you entertained for a good while.

The world itself, it's landscape and the cities (alhough woefully small they are), is what's done right.

I disagree. It's exciting in the beginning, but you'll pretty much see everything in the first five hours (including every one of the 5 varieties of dungeons which you'll revisit several billion times) - and for a game that's supposed to keep you entertained for 100+ hours, that's not a good thing.

And yes, the towns are all woefully small. Which isn't a good thing either.