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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2006, 01:45:16 PM »
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Sorry, magnetism is a force I have actually witnessed the effects of first hand, unlike your "gravity" voodoo.


The gravity theory can be proven with a telescope. It has nothing to do with "vodoo", nor ignorance (like FE science).
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2006, 01:48:31 PM »
How can gravity be proven by a telescope?

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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2006, 01:53:28 PM »
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How can gravity be proven by a telescope?


Oh, dear. Well, for instance, you can observe objects being drawn towards larger objects (like meteors to planets, or moons rotating around other planets), which pretty much covers the gravity theory. You can observe objects, like comets, going in a certain direction, then slightly shifting their route as they close up on things, like planets, in space.
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2006, 01:56:47 PM »
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How can gravity be proven by a telescope?


Oh, dear. Well, for instance, you can observe objects being drawn towards larger objects (like meteors to planets, or moons rotating around other planets), which pretty much covers the gravity theory. You can observe objects, like comets, going in a certain direction, then slightly shifting their route as they close up on things, like planets, in space.

Or maybe they're magnets that turn negative everytime they come close Ò_o

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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2006, 03:25:43 PM »
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Sorry, magnetism is a force I have actually witnessed the effects of first hand, unlike your "gravity" voodoo.


Wait, are you saying you've never witnessed gravity firsthand?  So like... where you live, everything floats?  Cool.
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2006, 06:49:32 PM »
I was obviously refering to Newton's definition of gravity, not Einstein's. The force, not the acceleration. Unfortunately both concepts share the same word.

I've never seen an example of mass attracting other mass, whereas I see magnets being used every day.

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Or maybe they're magnets that turn negative everytime they come close Ò_o

It wouldn't be necessary to change polarity.

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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2006, 07:06:55 PM »
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I was obviously refering to Newton's definition of gravity, not Einstein's. The force, not the acceleration. Unfortunately both concepts share the same word.

I've never seen an example of mass attracting other mass, whereas I see magnets being used every day.

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Or maybe they're magnets that turn negative everytime they come close Ò_o

It wouldn't be necessary to change polarity.


Unfortunately magnetism becomes extremely weak over large distances.
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2006, 12:55:09 AM »
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Proof: I've been to Sydney and it wasn't upside down.


Well, I'm here right now, and it is.  :)

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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2006, 01:49:23 AM »
I take it I won the debate about gravity as no one has yet tried to counter my last post.
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2006, 02:25:38 AM »
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How can gravity be proven by a telescope?


Oh, dear. Well, for instance, you can observe objects being drawn towards larger objects (like meteors to planets, or moons rotating around other planets), which pretty much covers the gravity theory. You can observe objects, like comets, going in a certain direction, then slightly shifting their route as they close up on things, like planets, in space.

I've never seen any of that happen at all, and I'm willing to bet you haven't either.

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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2006, 03:21:26 AM »
it shouldnt be upside down, but at a nearly-upside-down angle. only at the south pole would you be upside down! fake!
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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2006, 04:06:55 AM »
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I've never seen any of that happen at all, and I'm willing to bet you haven't either.


I have. Wanna try it yourself or keep playing ignorant?
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2006, 04:20:10 AM »
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How can gravity be proven by a telescope?


Oh, dear. Well, for instance, you can observe objects being drawn towards larger objects (like meteors to planets, or moons rotating around other planets), which pretty much covers the gravity theory. You can observe objects, like comets, going in a certain direction, then slightly shifting their route as they close up on things, like planets, in space.


Sure. And because "gravity" doesn't explain why the universe is the way it is, we'll just make up some invisible mass that covers most of the universe to explain things.

So I saw a car going in a certain direction today and then it slightly shifted it's route as it went near a truck. Gravity? No.

You've observed something and then made this wild assumption about what caused it. It doesn't make it right though.

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« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2006, 04:32:34 AM »
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So I saw a car going in a certain direction today and then it slightly shifted it's route as it went near a truck. Gravity? No.

It's quite interesting that you always seem to compare objects from space with man-made things. Like planets with basketballs, or comets with cars.
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You've observed something and then made this wild assumption about what caused it. It doesn't make it right though.

LoL. The car you saw was maneuvered by an inteligent lifeform. Comets aren't driven by inteligent lifeforms, nor are they even capable of making a sudden turn in the manner that they are, without taking gravity into consideration.

Apart from that, the fact that objects are "making turns" close to larger objects, everytime in the same manner, adds to nothing else but the theory of gravity. I am certain any other idea would appear rather unrational in comparison, but feel free to once again enlighten me with FE logics.  :roll:
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2006, 04:45:30 AM »
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Sorry, magnetism is a force I have actually witnessed the effects of first hand, unlike your "gravity" voodoo.
I've got an apple tree in my garden; the apples fall down onto the ground; Find a fruit tree of any type, and watch the fruit fall. There, you've witnessed gravity.
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« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2006, 05:10:19 AM »
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It is quite easy to prove the OP simply turned his camera upside down.

If he was on the bottom of the earth, he would have fallen off.

Case closed!

...unless...

Australians wear magnet shoes!


No... you see that second picture I posted? notice how everyone's shoes are touching thin black strips on the ground? Thats super-velcro.

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« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2006, 05:14:18 AM »
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LoL. The car you saw was maneuvered by an inteligent lifeform. Comets aren't driven by inteligent lifeforms, nor are they even capable of making a sudden turn in the manner that they are,


Prove it.

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« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2006, 05:51:11 AM »
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LoL. The car you saw was maneuvered by an inteligent lifeform. Comets aren't driven by inteligent lifeforms, nor are they even capable of making a sudden turn in the manner that they are,


Prove it.
I will if you prove that the earth is flat; I only ask for one piece of scientific, empirical, peer-reviewed evidence.
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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2006, 06:06:33 AM »
If the Government is so powerful it can make the mainstream world believe that the world is round, do you really think they'd let people publish credible evidence that shows the world to be flat?

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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2006, 06:56:36 AM »
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I've never seen any of that happen at all, and I'm willing to bet you haven't either.


I have. Wanna try it yourself or keep playing ignorant?

Well, no, you're lying.

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I've got an apple tree in my garden; the apples fall down onto the ground; Find a fruit tree of any type, and watch the fruit fall. There, you've witnessed gravity.

I'd have to know which definition of gravity you're using here.
If you're talking about Einstein's definition, then sure, you've witnessed gravity. Gravity caused by the constant acceleration of the earth, and the absolute absence of any force which attracts mass to other mass, but still defined as gravity.

If you're talking about newtonian gravity, then I say: "No, you've witness inertia."

The earth didn't pull the apple down, the apple just ceased to accelerate, and the earth caught up.

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« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2006, 07:03:12 AM »
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I've never seen any of that happen at all, and I'm willing to bet you haven't either.


I have. Wanna try it yourself or keep playing ignorant?

Well, no, you're lying.

Prove it

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« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2006, 08:26:52 AM »
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it shouldnt be upside down, but at a nearly-upside-down angle. only at the south pole would you be upside down! fake!


This is not something I have considered.  Very good point.
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« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2006, 12:52:19 PM »
This is a sad sad case, it can only be down to early childhood distress or tourment which has led to this unfortunate nonsense. My deepest sympathy is with those who actually beleive the world is flat...my nan is the tooth fairy and my grandad's best bud is bill clinton.

What is the driving force for people to be so insecure that they actually beleive even the earth itself is out to get them, is this a society for the disturbed and lonely?! Surely this is a cry for help from some of you! Have you not heard of plate tectonics? if the world is flat then 'why on earth' (like that pun normal peeps?  :lol: ) would there be such things as earth qukes. The government have nothing to gain by claiming the world is round, infact when the theory was proved ridiculous people probably didnt want to accept that they had been so wrong for so long......just look at the moon! Its so round its untrue! please seek help if you are a serious member of this site, help is out there. You just have to look for it.

I am deeply sorry for any feelings i may have hurt here but its time to face the music and, the facts. Stop wasting your time with this site, put more effort into making friends and finding member of the opposite sex. I can guide those of you for which there is hope, this who refuse to accept there talking nonsense then you can ruin your own lives....remember only you can change your destiny. The truth is out there, go find it.

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« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2006, 01:19:40 PM »
Man, I bet you feel silly.

Since you missed the whole point and everything.

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« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2006, 10:33:48 PM »
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I have. Wanna try it yourself or keep playing ignorant?

Well, no, you're lying.

I understand you went for the latter part.
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If you're talking about newtonian gravity, then I say: "No, you've witness inertia."

The earth didn't pull the apple down, the apple just ceased to accelerate, and the earth caught up.

I see, so all the other planets are accelerating towards Earth? Well, since they're flat, and obviously have got to accelerate in a forward motion for metors and other objects to fall down on them, causing the same kind of gravitation as the on on flat earth.. I wonder how they've never gotten any closer to Earth, then.
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0

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« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2006, 10:41:38 PM »
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I see, so all the other planets are accelerating towards Earth? Well, since they're flat, and obviously have got to accelerate in a forward motion for metors and other objects to fall down on them, causing the same kind of gravitation as the on on flat earth.. I wonder how they've never gotten any closer to Earth, then.


Well, not according to the FE theory as far as I can tell.  However, although the mass emails regarding mars coming closer to the earth in 2005 or '06 are hoaxes, Mars did come within 34.65 million miles of our orbit in 2003, which is the closest they have in something like 50,000 years.  The orbital paths of the planets are not actual circles, and are more ovoid, so the planets do often come closer also further away.
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« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2006, 10:37:35 AM »
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Well, not according to the FE theory as far as I can tell.  However, although the mass emails regarding mars coming closer to the earth in 2005 or '06 are hoaxes, Mars did come within 34.65 million miles of our orbit in 2003, which is the closest they have in something like 50,000 years.  The orbital paths of the planets are not actual circles, and are more ovoid, so the planets do often come closer also further away.


Thank you for filling me in, but maybe you missed my point?  :?
If the only type of gravity is that caused by flat objects accelerating in a forward direction, and since all other flat planets are facing the earth, they'd have to travel towards earth in order for other objects to change their motion and crash into their surfaces (I take it no one here will despute the fact that objects are crashing into other planets, such as meteors).

Sum: If other planets are facing us and accelerating in a forward direction to cause the gravity we can witness at any time, they oughta come closer to the Earth all the time. Why aren't they?
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2006, 10:56:15 AM »
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Thank you for filling me in, but maybe you missed my point?  :?


I do understand your point, but it kind of seemed to me that you were also implying that the distance between planets on the RE model never get closer together either.
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« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2006, 11:06:47 AM »
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It's an interesting theory, but you've clearly just turned the camera upside down to take those photos.


Britishagent gets it from his mum! LOL.

Camera positions are relative, its part of Einstein's theory of Photographing relatives.  

It helps to explain the amount of movement evident in a children be ween the time you press the button, the shutter closes, and the picture actually forms, as well ad the bland two dimensional space that mirrors our own, that is shown on Polaroid Instant cameras.

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« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2006, 12:31:19 PM »
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If the Government is so powerful it can make the mainstream world believe that the world is round, do you really think they'd let people publish credible evidence that shows the world to be flat?

If the government was so powerful it can make the mainstream world believe the world is round, do you really think they'd let this website exist?
Proof that the FE model is bogus (read through the thread, or skip to page five for the math):
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