Recent trip to space by a civilian

So not too long ago, Guy Laliberté, founder of Cirque du Soleil, paid himself a trip to space, and directed a show from there as part of an effort for water problem awareness (the One Drop foundation).

Are you guys saying he's in on the conspiracy too???

He's a simple civilian with ZERO interest in your supposed conspiracy...

Furthermore, and to get to the core of the issue, WHY would there even be a conspiracy? WHAT would be the purpose of telling everyone that the Earth is round? HOW does that benefit anybody!?

And on that note, if some government body decided it was an important enough issue to invest literally billions of dollars into, WHY WOULD THEY ALLOW THE INFORMATION TO BE PASSED AROUND ON THE INTERNET! THE INTERNET WOULDN'T EXIST IF THEY WERE SO PARANOID ABOUT PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THE EARTH IS ROUND.

So not too long ago, Guy Laliberté, founder of Cirque du Soleil, paid himself a trip to space, and directed a show from there as part of an effort for water problem awareness (the One Drop foundation).

Are you guys saying he's in on the conspiracy too???

He's a simple civilian with ZERO interest in your supposed conspiracy...

One man who is not a member of a Satanic Space Agency has supposedly gone into space. Fantastic evidence. You REers really are getting desperate.

I know for a fact that this man is a member of the conspiracy, or at least has been brainwashed or deceived by them. Why? Because he claims to have gone into space...

One man who is not a member of a Satanic Space Agency has supposedly gone into space. Fantastic evidence. You REers really are getting desperate.

I know for a fact that this man is a member of the conspiracy, or at least has been brainwashed or deceived by them. Why? Because he claims to have gone into space...

WHAT CONSPIRACY?! WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST!? WHO DOES IT SERVE!?

Wanna talk about getting desperate? Give me the answer to those questions.

Quote from: Lord Xenu on September 20, 2011, 09:00:05 AM

One man who is not a member of a Satanic Space Agency has supposedly gone into space. Fantastic evidence. You REers really are getting desperate.

I know for a fact that this man is a member of the conspiracy, or at least has been brainwashed or deceived by them. Why? Because he claims to have gone into space...

WHAT CONSPIRACY?! WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST!? WHO DOES IT SERVE!?

Wanna talk about getting desperate? Give me the answer to those questions.

It's mainly run by NASA and other Satanic Space Agencies. One can only speculate about their goals, but it has been suggested that they are profiting by keeping the funds given to them for a space program that does not exist, or are hiding some form of power source provided by the acceleration of the earth through space.

Lurk moar, and you might have found the answers to those questions without resorting to angry, incoherent ranting.

If it was indeed incoherent, you would not have been able to reply.

I just can't wrap my head around the sheer idiocy of the claim that space agencies are "satanic" and that there is serious profit to be had, and that they've been lying to us for roughly 800 years about the shape of the Earth.

Quote from: gnnmsf on September 20, 2011, 08:44:29 AM

So not too long ago, Guy Laliberté, founder of Cirque du Soleil, paid himself a trip to space, and directed a show from there as part of an effort for water problem awareness (the One Drop foundation).

Are you guys saying he's in on the conspiracy too???

He's a simple civilian with ZERO interest in your supposed conspiracy...

One man who is not a member of a Satanic Space Agency has supposedly gone into space. Fantastic evidence. You REers really are getting desperate.

I know for a fact that this man is a member of the conspiracy, or at least has been brainwashed or deceived by them. Why? Because he claims to have gone into space...

Oh dear....

Are you serious??
this is unbelievable...

Alright so tell me....WHAT evidence exactly would you need to be convinced??? You have dismissed photos, videos, scientific facts, studies, common sense, and now civilian witnesses....Basically EVERY POSSIBLE PROOF out there, you have refused to acknowledge, giving as a reason that Nasa is Satanic???

Geeze this is so ridiculous....

Hey guess wat your all wrong space flight is possible and I can prove it. Just take a big laser shine it at the moon and see the giant reflectors we put there and you'll see we have gone to the moon and the earth is round.

NASA would stand to make a lot of money from lying. Think about it: they get to keep all of the money that they're given as a budget if they fake the stuff. Get-rich-quick-scheme? Hell yes to the max.

They don't have to be Satanic, that's just James' paranoid ranting. Take everything he says with many, many grains of salt. Perhaps keep a saltshaker around when you read his stuff, actually.

NASA would stand to make a lot of money from lying. Think about it: they get to keep all of the money that they're given as a budget if they fake the stuff. Get-rich-quick-scheme? Hell yes to the max.

They don't have to be Satanic, that's just James' paranoid ranting. Take everything he says with many, many grains of salt. Perhaps keep a saltshaker around when you read his stuff, actually.

In order to maintain the conspiracy, pay off people, and create new technologies to deceive the public, NASA would have to spend MANY times its annual budget. In the long run, it'd actually be cheaper for them NOT to lie.

People here tell me to read EnaG to learn about FET, my advice to you is to read the works of Aristotle and Archimedes. They proves the Earth was round a LONG time before NASA was created.

Aristotle and Archimedes simply inherited the flawed Pythagorean cosmology of their mentors.

You demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature - we as a species are compelled to understand that which we currently do not. Thus, what exists outside of our planet is of greater mystery and intrigue than any vast sum of money. I, for one, would happily be involved in a space-faring program. I would rather help discover a planet, or something world-changing like "the Earth is spherical", than lie to the entire world and make some money.

Also, you fail to understand that there are organizations other than NASA that explore the outer boundaries of Earth. Virtually every country that contributes to the global market has some investment in a space program.

Aristotle and Archimedes simply inherited the flawed Pythagorean cosmology of their mentors.

They did experiments that proved the Earth is round, their results have absolutely nothing to do with what they were taught. On this website FEers tell us to not simply accept what people say as truth, but to investigate it ourselves. How is what Aristotle and Archimedes did any different? They questioned the idea that the Earth was round, and through experimentation of their own, they concluded that the Earth is in fact round.

Neither conducted any experiments on rotundity. They simply inherited the Pythagorean cosmology. The closest thing to an experiment was the observation of different constellation in the southern hemiplane or the observation of an eclipse which they both assumed was caused by the shadow of the earth.
Believing the earth to be round because a sphere is the "perfect shape" is not science. It's numerology and mythology, not science. I highly recommend the works of Walter Burkert if you would like to learn more about this.

It's mainly run by NASA and other Satanic Space Agencies. One can only speculate about their goals, but it has been suggested that they are profiting by keeping the funds given to them for a space program that does not exist, or are hiding some form of power source provided by the acceleration of the earth through space.

This is of course where a big part of the FET falls apart.  A Theory must stand on it's own to be valid.  When a conspiracy is necessary to cement the theory together or to try to exclude facts that not only counter the theory but can completely devastate it, then the theory fails.

You do realize they could have told the people the world is flat and still raked in tons of money making fake space flights don't you?  In fact it is counter productive, monetarily to hide something like the shape of the world as they would spend a great amount of their money doing so.

This Cirque de Soleil guy was just tricked. Everyone before NASA was just wrong. NASA does it to cover up the moon landing hoax, and also money.

Believing the earth to be round because a sphere is the "perfect shape" is not science. It's numerology and mythology, not science.

I really don't think one who believes the world is flat should be talking about what is and is not science.

Quote from: Ski on September 20, 2011, 05:11:36 PM

Believing the earth to be round because a sphere is the "perfect shape" is not science. It's numerology and mythology, not science.

I really don't think one who believes the world is flat should be talking about what is and is not science.

Ski is on track here. The Ancient Greeks believed that the earth was round because a sphere was the "perfect shape" and other gut feelings. The educational system portrays the Ancient Greeks as if they were an infallible civilization thousands of years ahead of their time. Aristotle is usually portrayed as a genius in many fields.

It's usually not mentioned that Aristotle also went around telling people that flies spontaneously generated from rotting meat and men had a different number of teeth than women.

The Ancient Greeks believed that the earth was round because a sphere was the "perfect shape" and other gut feelings.

Well, that and real world observations that didn't make sense in a flat earth environment.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 20, 2011, 08:01:00 PM

The Ancient Greeks believed that the earth was round because a sphere was the "perfect shape" and other gut feelings.

Well, that and real world observations that didn't make sense in a flat earth environment.

In his "The History of Animals" book series Aristotle describes how frogs and news are born by spontaneously generating into existence from mud.

And you expect us to take him as a credible source?

About as credible as a 150 year old book based on pseudoscience and the bible.

About as credible as a 150 year old book based on pseudoscience and the bible.

Incorrect. Earth Not a Globe is based on neither.

A good bulk of Earth Not a Globe is about why Aristotle and the Ancient Greeks were mistaken, and why the Victorian civilization was wrong to look up to them and adopt their theories. People have a hard time letting go of popular opinion. This is why the belief in witchcraft persisted into the 17th century and why up until the 50's doctors were telling us that smoking was perfectly fine. People will follow media hype like dogs to the whistle.

Earth Not a Globe is required reading if you are interested in Flat Earth Theory.

Quote from: jbot on September 20, 2011, 07:49:48 PM

Quote from: Ski on September 20, 2011, 05:11:36 PM

Believing the earth to be round because a sphere is the "perfect shape" is not science. It's numerology and mythology, not science.

I really don't think one who believes the world is flat should be talking about what is and is not science.

Ski is on track here. The Ancient Greeks believed that the earth was round because a sphere was the "perfect shape" and other gut feelings. The educational system portrays the Ancient Greeks as if they were an infallible civilization thousands of years ahead of their time. Aristotle is usually portrayed as a genius in many fields.

It's usually not mentioned that Aristotle also went around telling people that flies spontaneously generated from rotting meat and men had a different number of teeth than women.

Russelian vortex science Guys... look into it. a Torus (spherical donut twin vortex) is the universes manifestation of a sustainable spherical motion. i.e The flat earth can be existing within a "Perfectly" spherical energy field of which is beyond site. The material world is full of non-perfectly-symmetric manifestations

Quote from: Ski on September 20, 2011, 05:11:36 PM

Believing the earth to be round because a sphere is the "perfect shape" is not science. It's numerology and mythology, not science.

I really don't think one who believes the world is flat should be talking about what is and is not science.

It's self evident to anyone familiar with the material. Dr. Burkert, too, calls Pythagorean cosmology, "mythology in scientific clothing" (Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism). Their beliefs were based on theories of symmetry and numerology, not on observation. Modern scholarship has done great service in deconstructing the pedestal constructed for "science" in ancient Greece.

Quote from: markjo on September 20, 2011, 08:03:31 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 20, 2011, 08:01:00 PM

The Ancient Greeks believed that the earth was round because a sphere was the "perfect shape" and other gut feelings.

Well, that and real world observations that didn't make sense in a flat earth environment.

In his "The History of Animals" book series Aristotle describes how frogs and news are born by spontaneously generating into existence from mud.

And you expect us to take him as a credible source?

Do you expect us to take you as a credible source? The things you've said over the course of mere weeks is just profoundly disturbing...

And I'm going to assume that if the Ancients that first delved into the idea that the world is round for reasons that were unscientific, I guess they're wrong, and many scientists today are just following their lead because they can't think for themselves.

Quote from: Lord Xenu on September 20, 2011, 09:00:05 AM

Quote from: gnnmsf on September 20, 2011, 08:44:29 AM

So not too long ago, Guy Laliberté, founder of Cirque du Soleil, paid himself a trip to space, and directed a show from there as part of an effort for water problem awareness (the One Drop foundation).

Are you guys saying he's in on the conspiracy too???

He's a simple civilian with ZERO interest in your supposed conspiracy...

One man who is not a member of a Satanic Space Agency has supposedly gone into space. Fantastic evidence. You REers really are getting desperate.

I know for a fact that this man is a member of the conspiracy, or at least has been brainwashed or deceived by them. Why? Because he claims to have gone into space...

Oh dear....

Are you serious??
this is unbelievable...

Alright so tell me....WHAT evidence exactly would you need to be convinced??? You have dismissed photos, videos, scientific facts, studies, common sense, and now civilian witnesses....Basically EVERY POSSIBLE PROOF out there, you have refused to acknowledge, giving as a reason that Nasa is Satanic???

Geeze this is so ridiculous....

Convinced now?

Are you god damn serious? You used paint to draw lines on top of other lines to make a horrible pentagram, which isn't even a satanic symbol? Like most things Christian, that symbol was borrowed from Paganism.

I hope you don't have children.

Are you god damn serious?

Yes.

You used paint to draw lines on top of other lines to make a horrible pentagram, which isn't even a satanic symbol?

Yes it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_of_Baphomet

And I have more:





Notice a pattern? These are all logos of space agencies, and all of them have a pentagram or a section of a pentagram hidden in there somewhere.

Coincidence? I think not.

Quote from: markjo on September 20, 2011, 08:03:31 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 20, 2011, 08:01:00 PM

The Ancient Greeks believed that the earth was round because a sphere was the "perfect shape" and other gut feelings.

Well, that and real world observations that didn't make sense in a flat earth environment.

In his "The History of Animals" book series Aristotle describes how frogs and news are born by spontaneously generating into existence from mud.

And you expect us to take him as a credible source?

Irrelevant.  It can be confirmed that the sun rises very nearly due east and sets very nearly due west just about anywhere you are on earth on the days of the equinox regardless of what Aristotle says about frogs.  In fact, you will have an opportunity to see this for yourself in two days.

Quote from: jbot on September 21, 2011, 05:21:15 AM

Are you god damn serious?

Quote from: jbot on September 21, 2011, 05:21:15 AM

You used paint to draw lines on top of other lines to make a horrible pentagram, which isn't even a satanic symbol?

Yes it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_of_Baphomet

And I have more:
...

Notice a pattern? These are all logos of space agencies, and all of them have a pentagram or a section of a pentagram hidden in there somewhere.

Coincidence? I think not.

An inverted pentagram (Sigil of Baphomet) has a different symbolic meaning than a normal pentagram.  Please do not confuse the two.  Also, a pentagram is a hollow star.  Filled in stars have even different symbolic meanings.  Please stop spreading misinformation.  It's intellectually dishonest and doesn't help your case.