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How does GPS work if no satellites?

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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #90 on: February 15, 2014, 09:09:41 AM »
Quote from: Bilbobaggins on February 15, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.

Surely any GPS transmitter, satellite or psuedolite, relies on a stable platform in a known position.  Even though satellites are in orbit they travel a precisely predictable route.   If the distance between you and the sea-pseudolite is constantly changing due to unpredictable sea swells how is the position measured accurately?

Is it really a big deal if my average altitude of my ship is actually 4 meters above sea level instead of 6 meters?  Am I not going to get to the same place, either way?  Would anyone even notice if this happened?  Probably not. 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2014, 09:15:23 AM »
Quote from: Bilbobaggins on February 15, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.

Surely any GPS transmitter, satellite or psuedolite, relies on a stable platform in a known position.  Even though satellites are in orbit they travel a precisely predictable route.   If the distance between you and the sea-pseudolite is constantly changing due to unpredictable sea swells how is the position measured accurately?
How come these satellites work, even though they would be constantly getting interfered with by constant cloud cover?
I mean, when we are shown pictures of earth in daylight, it's generally chocka block with thick clouds. It's different at night, of course when the clouds are folded up and took in, so they can show us clear pictures of cities and lights.  ::)
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2014, 09:44:44 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on February 15, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: Bilbobaggins on February 15, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.

Surely any GPS transmitter, satellite or psuedolite, relies on a stable platform in a known position.  Even though satellites are in orbit they travel a precisely predictable route.   If the distance between you and the sea-pseudolite is constantly changing due to unpredictable sea swells how is the position measured accurately?
How come these satellites work, even though they would be constantly getting interfered with by constant cloud cover?
I mean, when we are shown pictures of earth in daylight, it's generally chocka block with thick clouds. It's different at night, of course when the clouds are folded up and took in, so they can show us clear pictures of cities and lights.  ::)
like this ? #ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Earth HD| Time Lapse View from Space, Fly Over | NASA, ISS seems pretty cloudy to me.. ::)
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2014, 09:49:44 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on February 15, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: Bilbobaggins on February 15, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.

Surely any GPS transmitter, satellite or psuedolite, relies on a stable platform in a known position.  Even though satellites are in orbit they travel a precisely predictable route.   If the distance between you and the sea-pseudolite is constantly changing due to unpredictable sea swells how is the position measured accurately?
How come these satellites work, even though they would be constantly getting interfered with by constant cloud cover?
I mean, when we are shown pictures of earth in daylight, it's generally chocka block with thick clouds. It's different at night, of course when the clouds are folded up and took in, so they can show us clear pictures of cities and lights.  ::)
rain droplets in clouds are not sufficient to affect satellite microwaves, it was designed and developed as an all weather system.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #94 on: February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #95 on: February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about. 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #96 on: February 15, 2014, 10:10:27 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
I am asking for specific information on the location of land bases, air ships and buoys that transmit signals that my GPS receiver uses to give me accurate details of my location and elevation.  There is no reason for this information not to be in the public domain like easily found details of TV broadcast satellites and TV/radio transmitters.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #97 on: February 15, 2014, 10:12:48 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
seems like a series of succint questions to me.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #98 on: February 15, 2014, 10:17:27 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
I am asking for specific information on the location of land bases, air ships and buoys that transmit signals that my GPS receiver uses to give me accurate details of my location and elevation.  There is no reason for this information not to be in the public domain like easily found details of TV broadcast satellites and TV/radio transmitters.

Can you tell me where every single cell phone transmitter is?  If you can do the research and do actually find this information, it is because this is not hidden information. 

Why do you keep demanding unreasonable amounts of information? 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #99 on: February 15, 2014, 10:26:40 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
I am asking for specific information on the location of land bases, air ships and buoys that transmit signals that my GPS receiver uses to give me accurate details of my location and elevation.  There is no reason for this information not to be in the public domain like easily found details of TV broadcast satellites and TV/radio transmitters.

Can you tell me where every single cell phone transmitter is?  If you can do the research and do actually find this information, it is because this is not hidden information. 

Why do you keep demanding unreasonable amounts of information?
the location of one transmitter is hardly an unreasonable amount of information? I can tell you where the nearest cell phone transmitter is from me, its less than a mile away. Your turn, name the location of one of your gps alternative transmitters.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #100 on: February 15, 2014, 10:28:20 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
I am asking for specific information on the location of land bases, air ships and buoys that transmit signals that my GPS receiver uses to give me accurate details of my location and elevation.  There is no reason for this information not to be in the public domain like easily found details of TV broadcast satellites and TV/radio transmitters.

Can you tell me where every single cell phone transmitter is?  If you can do the research and do actually find this information, it is because this is not hidden information. 

Why do you keep demanding unreasonable amounts of information?
I am asking for details of one, not every one, just as a start.  GPS receivers show the satellites moving across the sky, 19 in view currently here, including some Russian GLONASS ones.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #101 on: February 15, 2014, 10:31:05 AM »
Quote from: glokta on February 15, 2014, 10:26:40 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
I am asking for specific information on the location of land bases, air ships and buoys that transmit signals that my GPS receiver uses to give me accurate details of my location and elevation.  There is no reason for this information not to be in the public domain like easily found details of TV broadcast satellites and TV/radio transmitters.

Can you tell me where every single cell phone transmitter is?  If you can do the research and do actually find this information, it is because this is not hidden information. 

Why do you keep demanding unreasonable amounts of information?
the location of one transmitter is hardly an unreasonable amount of information? I can tell you where the nearest cell phone transmitter is from me, its less than a mile away. Your turn, name the location of one of your gps alternative transmitters.

Well, fine, then.  Here is one. 

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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #102 on: February 15, 2014, 10:42:57 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: glokta on February 15, 2014, 10:26:40 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
You expect me to just know the location of every transmitter in existence?  Your demands get more and more ridiculous all the time. 

Over the ocean, they likely use buoys and/or air ships.
So can you provide any information about these transmitters, just anything like the location of one.  How do people developing receivers work without this information?

Has anyone seen air ships transmitting, what keeps them in position?

Are you claiming that deep water buoys do not exist?  Or maybe that air ships do not exist?  I am confused as to what you are confused about.
I am asking for specific information on the location of land bases, air ships and buoys that transmit signals that my GPS receiver uses to give me accurate details of my location and elevation.  There is no reason for this information not to be in the public domain like easily found details of TV broadcast satellites and TV/radio transmitters.

Can you tell me where every single cell phone transmitter is?  If you can do the research and do actually find this information, it is because this is not hidden information. 

Why do you keep demanding unreasonable amounts of information?
the location of one transmitter is hardly an unreasonable amount of information? I can tell you where the nearest cell phone transmitter is from me, its less than a mile away. Your turn, name the location of one of your gps alternative transmitters.

Well, fine, then.  Here is one. 

How do you know it transmits GPS, where are the antenna?
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #103 on: February 15, 2014, 10:47:44 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Well, fine, then.  Here is one. 

How do you know it transmits GPS, where are the antenna?

You don't see that antenna tower sticking out of the ground?  Are being serious, or just pulling my leg now?  You are either the worst troll this site has seen, or just the laziest one.  Tell me which one you are, please. 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #104 on: February 15, 2014, 10:50:32 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:42:57 AM
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Well, fine, then.  Here is one. 

How do you know it transmits GPS, where are the antenna?

You don't see that antenna tower sticking out of the ground?  Are being serious, or just pulling my leg now?  You are either the worst troll this site has seen, or just the laziest one.  Tell me which one you are, please.
That is the mast, not the antenna.  Unless it is a low frequency transmitter, which means it is not for GPS.  Do you know what frequencies are used for GPS, and the antenna size?
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #105 on: February 15, 2014, 10:53:49 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Well, fine, then.  Here is one. 

How do you know it transmits GPS, where are the antenna?

You don't see that antenna tower sticking out of the ground?  Are being serious, or just pulling my leg now?  You are either the worst troll this site has seen, or just the laziest one.  Tell me which one you are, please.
That is the mast, not the antenna.  Unless it is a low frequency transmitter, which means it is not for GPS.  Do you know what frequencies are used for GPS, and the antenna size?

Are you now claiming that GPS is transmitted on LF?  Please provide some evidence instead of just making stuff up as you go. 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #106 on: February 15, 2014, 11:00:01 AM »
what is the location of that antenna out of interest? I assume you took the photo yourself.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #107 on: February 15, 2014, 11:01:21 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on February 15, 2014, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Well, fine, then.  Here is one. 

How do you know it transmits GPS, where are the antenna?

You don't see that antenna tower sticking out of the ground?  Are being serious, or just pulling my leg now?  You are either the worst troll this site has seen, or just the laziest one.  Tell me which one you are, please.
That is the mast, not the antenna.  Unless it is a low frequency transmitter, which means it is not for GPS.  Do you know what frequencies are used for GPS, and the antenna size?

Are you now claiming that GPS is transmitted on LF?  Please provide some evidence instead of just making stuff up as you go.
 
No, read what I said.  If that is an LF transmitter it will not be for GPS.  Where is it?

Just asking for a validated, non satellite, live, in service, GPS transmitter.  If not they must be the moving satellites I am seeing on my tablet app.  All documentation on GPS is wrong according to you?

How can I being receiving Russian ones?
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #108 on: February 15, 2014, 11:04:10 AM »
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LORAN Station Malone, Malone, Florida Great Lakes chain (GRI 8970)/Southeast U.S. chain (GRI 7980)

Happy now? 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #109 on: February 15, 2014, 11:07:14 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:04:10 AM
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LORAN Station Malone, Malone, Florida Great Lakes chain (GRI 8970)/Southeast U.S. chain (GRI 7980)
It can't be anymore - LORAN was phased out in Northern America in 2010:

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The current LORAN system has been phased out in the United States and Canada. The United States Coast Guard (USCG) and Canadian Coast Guard (CCG) ceased transmitting LORAN-C (and joint CHAYKA) signals in 2010.[2][3]
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #110 on: February 15, 2014, 11:09:21 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:04:10 AM
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LORAN Station Malone, Malone, Florida Great Lakes chain (GRI 8970)/Southeast U.S. chain (GRI 7980)

Happy now?
I asked for a GPS site.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #111 on: February 15, 2014, 11:11:29 AM »
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on February 15, 2014, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:04:10 AM
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LORAN Station Malone, Malone, Florida Great Lakes chain (GRI 8970)/Southeast U.S. chain (GRI 7980)
It can't be anymore - LORAN was phased out in Northern America in 2010:

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The current LORAN system has been phased out in the United States and Canada. The United States Coast Guard (USCG) and Canadian Coast Guard (CCG) ceased transmitting LORAN-C (and joint CHAYKA) signals in 2010.[2][3]
Yes, it is old an out of commission now.  That does not mean that other stations have not replaced it.  I was asked to provide a single example of LORAN, which I did.  Stop changing the goal posts. 
« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 11:21:28 AM by jroa »
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2014, 11:16:03 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on February 15, 2014, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:04:10 AM
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LORAN Station Malone, Malone, Florida Great Lakes chain (GRI 8970)/Southeast U.S. chain (GRI 7980)
It can't be anymore - LORAN was phased out in Northern America in 2010:

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The current LORAN system has been phased out in the United States and Canada. The United States Coast Guard (USCG) and Canadian Coast Guard (CCG) ceased transmitting LORAN-C (and joint CHAYKA) signals in 2010.[2][3]

Yes, it is old an out of commission now.  That does not mean that other stations have not replaced it.  I was asked to provide a single example of LORAN, which I did.  Stop changing the goal posts.
how does loran calculate altitude as is possible with gps?
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2014, 11:18:26 AM »
LORAN is just an example of ground based positioning systems.  It is not what I am claiming to be a GPS cover.  Are you trying to imply that ground based positioning is not possible?  Stop harping on LORAN or I will be forced to produced other ground based technology.  My point is that it is possible.  Please show evidence that ground based positioning is not possible. 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #114 on: February 15, 2014, 11:18:45 AM »
No one has asked for LORAN.  Yes, ground based positioning is possible. The discussion is sbout GPS.  One site please.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 11:20:33 AM by inquisitive »
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2014, 11:31:25 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:18:26 AM
LORAN is just an example of ground based positioning systems.
Not a very good one, as it is being phased out and it could never calculate altitude.  It was also never global.

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  It is not what I am claiming to be a GPS cover.  Are you trying to imply that ground based positioning is not possible?  Stop harping on LORAN or I will be forced to produced other ground based technology.  My point is that it is possible.
The usual passive aggressive shtick.  Are you suggesting that there is a super secret ground based system that is not documented anywhere, has no witnesses to it's building and somehow spoofs exactly how a satellite positioning system would operate? 


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  Please show evidence that ground based positioning is not possible.
Please provide evidence that any ground based system can calculate altitude.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #116 on: February 15, 2014, 11:34:01 AM »
Once again, please provide evidence that it is not possible. 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #117 on: February 15, 2014, 11:43:51 AM »
Quote from: jroa on February 15, 2014, 11:34:01 AM
Once again, please provide evidence that it is not possible.
You are asking me to prove an negative.

If you are saying ground based systems can calculate altitude, then it is your claim and the burden of proof is with you.

I can't see how they would do it with any accuracy or reliability, or maybe even at all, but I'm honestly open to evidence.

GPS calcuates altitude from at least 4 different satellites using trilateration and it's very difficult to see how any ground based system could possibly spoof this.
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #118 on: February 15, 2014, 11:49:12 AM »
You are positively claiming that it can not be done.  That is not a negative claim, but in fact a positive one.  Once again, can you provide any evidence at all that supports your claim? 
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Re: How does GPS work if no satellites?
« Reply #119 on: February 15, 2014, 11:53:06 AM »
Please explain how GPS sees moving satellites.
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