Fox strikes again

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Saddam Hussein

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Fox strikes again
« on: September 04, 2011, 04:09:39 PM »
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109030006

Why do people still watch Fox News?  I really don't get it.  These are not obscure articles that people post here detailing Fox's lies, distorting, and general lack of decency.  If people would just open their eyes for once, they would clearly see the garbage that Fox routinely claims as "news."

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 04:16:23 PM »
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109030006

Why do people still watch Fox News?  I really don't get it.  These are not obscure articles that people post here detailing Fox's lies, distorting, and general lack of decency.  If people would just open their eyes for once, they would clearly see the garbage that Fox routinely claims as "news."
The simple answer is that people like someone to blame and most people hate blaming themselves.  So Fox simply gives people what they want: An excuse to blame someone else for the problems they face.  It doesn't matter if it makes sense or is legal or even if it's contradictory.  All that matters is that the viewer leaves with a sense of self-righteousness and that their problems are somebody else's fault.  Specifically the people who believe in the opposite things said viewer does.

It's the same method Hitler used to gain support. 

"Hungry?  Jobless?  The Jews are the problem because they aren't you!"
"Angry?  Jobless?  The Democrats are the problem because they aren't like you!"
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 04:20:00 PM »
I don't understand why anyone who isn't wealthy watches Fox.
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 04:21:54 PM »
I watch it because it's entertaining.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 05:24:04 PM »
The sad thing is that there are probably thousands of people in their double-wides agreeing with every word of that.
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 06:31:03 PM »
Damn, I just love Jim Crow laws.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 08:16:24 AM »
Yeah, bias news media sucks. 

MSNBC

CNN

NPR

Et cetera, Et cetera, Et cetera.


We should all switch to Al Jezeera.  Hillary says thats the only real news source left.


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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 08:22:49 AM »
Oh look, all of your links are from a site that says "Exposing & Combating Liberal Media Bias".

Al jazeera is a good news source, if you ask me.
we're expected to throw up our hands and just BELIEVE.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 08:28:17 AM »
"Fair and Balanced"

Yeah, right.


we're expected to throw up our hands and just BELIEVE.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 09:33:20 AM »
Oh look, all of your links are from a site that says "Exposing & Combating Liberal Media Bias".

Al jazeera is a good news source, if you ask me.

He used media matters...tit for tat I say.


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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 09:55:01 AM »
Attaking the source of the articles is irrelevant, all of you.

Wardogg, do you agree with this person that poor people should not be allowed to vote?  Do you think it is right for Fox News to give this person airtime, uncontested?

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WardoggKC130FE

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 10:05:51 AM »
Attaking the source of the articles is irrelevant, all of you.

Wardogg, do you agree with this person that poor people should not be allowed to vote?  Do you think it is right for Fox News to give this person airtime, uncontested?


Of course I don't agree with citizens not being allowed to vote.  They have every right to put him on contested or not.  Had he went on MSNBC and said the same exact thing would the same statement be made about them?  That's were my issue lies. 

Do you agree with the NPR article that allowed someone to get on their network and say that pro-lifers are terrorists, uncontested?   And thats paid for by tax dollars.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 10:07:42 AM »
Would MSNBC allow somebody on there that believes the poor should not be allowed to vote without contesting that belief?

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 10:20:40 AM »
I know its a running joke but that's actually irrelevant.  I have no idea why they brought him on.  I have no idea why that particular anchor didn't question his beliefs.  If it really matters then why did you avoid my second question?  That person was allowed to come on a tax payer funded news organization and say what he wanted uncontested.  Where is the uproar?  I don't agree with it but I don't pay to keep the organization running either.  As apparently I do with NPR.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 10:23:07 AM »
we're expected to throw up our hands and just BELIEVE.

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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 10:23:40 AM »
Attaking the source of the articles is irrelevant, all of you.

Wardogg, do you agree with this person that poor people should not be allowed to vote?  Do you think it is right for Fox News to give this person airtime, uncontested?


Of course I don't agree with citizens not being allowed to vote.  They have every right to put him on contested or not.  Had he went on MSNBC and said the same exact thing would the same statement be made about them?  That's were my issue lies. 

Do you agree with the NPR article that allowed someone to get on their network and say that pro-lifers are terrorists, uncontested?   And thats paid for by tax dollars.
I couldn't find I formation about this except at liberal media bias sites.

Though I'm wondering: was this after the clinic bombing?

And secondly: did he already call them terrorists prior?
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2011, 10:28:05 AM »
Why do people still watch Fox News?
Self deception is easier when you have company.

Just as people in Germany fell for NAZI propaganda, people here will fall for media outlets like Faux News.
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2011, 10:29:28 AM »
I have no idea why they brought him on.  I have no idea why that particular anchor didn't question his beliefs.

Really?  Seriously?

They had him on because he serves the political agenda for which Fox News is a machine.  The anchor didn't question his beliefs because his opinion serves the political agenda for which Fox News is a machine.  If you haven't picked up yet that Fox News is nothing more than a tool of the conservative agenda by now I feel sorry for you.

And no, I'm not getting into a debate over whether or not the same can be said of MSNBC, CNN, and NPR.  It seems a bit whiny of you to call them out thus since it's irrelevant to the issue.  You start threads all the time that you think lend credence to your own political beliefs.  You're basically derailing this thread with your whining.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2011, 10:34:52 AM »
Nevermind, I found the information I needed. On newsbusters.org no less. Will write more later.
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2011, 12:20:29 PM »
I watched Saddam's clip.  Nothing was said that I heard about poor people's right to vote or mentioned the article in question.  It seemed to be a short interview on Fox Business Channel about ACORN and ACORN's former executives.  Has the clip been changed?  I watched a cached version as I couldn't get the link to load the clip.

If the article is the problem, I wonder that Media Matters themselves supplied the link to the article on some right wing website.  I think I missed something somewhere.  I'll watch it again.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2011, 12:38:17 PM »
MSNBC certainly does have a liberal bias, although I would argue that Fox's bias is much, much bigger and more obvious.  Those pieces on the CNN and NBC stories are kind of silly, though.  The problem with CNN is that they didn't ask James Hoffa Jr. about a remark he made where he called some Republicans "sons of bitches."  Really?  There's no other reason than a liberal bias for why a news station on daytime television wouldn't want to discuss someone making a vulgar phrase?  Hell, if they had asked him about it, that website would probably claim that it was because their liberal bias that they were re-hashing the insult.

The NPR issue is also pretty weak.  NPR was not asking Sharon Levin about Dick Retta, and certainly not about pro-lifers in general.  The discussion had moved on, and they were talking about abortion-related violence as a whole:

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JOHNSON: The National Abortion Federation, which tracks violent incidents, says major violence is down since the murder, two years ago, of abortion doctor George Tiller. The man who killed Tiller has been convicted. A federal grand jury is investigating his alleged accomplices. But Sharon Levin of the Abortion Federation says there are still some signs of trouble- two incidents this summer involving Molotov cocktails, and the arrest in Wisconsin of a man who told police he wanted to shoot abortion doctors. Levin attributes the relatively low level of violence to the Justice Department's more aggressive enforcement.

SHARON LEVIN, NATIONAL ABORTION FEDERATION: One of the dangers we have seen is that the people who commit the major violent acts often started with minor violent acts, and they were never arrested. And so, their activities escalated.

But in any case, though, like Roundy said, this is an irrelevant discussion.  Whether or not other news stations are biased doesn't change Fox's enormous bias.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2011, 01:46:20 PM »
But in any case, though, like Roundy said, this is an irrelevant discussion.  Whether or not other news stations are biased doesn't change Fox's enormous bias.

How is it irrelevant?  Most all of you on here BAWWW about Fox's bias when ALL the media outlets do it.  The only reason you BAWWW about Fox is because its stuff you don't agree with. 

They had him on because he serves the political agenda for which Fox News is a machine.

So now Fox doesn't pander to the poor white redneck folk in the SE USA?  I wish you guys would make up your minds. 
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Saddam Hussein

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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2011, 02:34:33 PM »
But in any case, though, like Roundy said, this is an irrelevant discussion.  Whether or not other news stations are biased doesn't change Fox's enormous bias.

How is it irrelevant?  Most all of you on here BAWWW about Fox's bias when ALL the media outlets do it.  The only reason you BAWWW about Fox is because its stuff you don't agree with.

No, we BAWWW about Fox because they are by far the worst when it comes to bias.  And unlike the other outlets, where it most likely comes down to personal opinion being injected into the stories, there is ample evidence that Fox does it deliberately as part of its agenda.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2011, 02:53:48 PM »
No, fox goes a step further by downright lying about things, or deliberately misleading people.  That's not the same as just giving a liberal opinion.

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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2011, 03:02:40 PM »
They had him on because he serves the political agenda for which Fox News is a machine.

So now Fox doesn't pander to the poor white redneck folk in the SE USA?  I wish you guys would make up your minds. 

Where did I say anything about who they pander to?  If you want to have an intelligent discussion I'm all for it but putting words in my mouth will not be part of it.
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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2011, 04:05:07 PM »
The only reason you BAWWW about Fox is because its stuff you don't agree with. 

Not really. It's just that they're the most balls-out-banging-your-wife kind of gutsy about it. All mainstream (FOX/CNN/MSNBC and derivatives) TV media in America is facile, reactionary and uninformative. Fox just hates the black man that's all. Which is funny for those watching through a telescope 3,000 miles away.


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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2011, 11:13:07 PM »
>2011
>still watching Jews News and Mess NBC


I seriously hope you guys don't do this.


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Re: Fox strikes again
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2011, 01:11:05 AM »
Whch is why y'all should watch the BBC. It's possibly the most scrutinised news agency in the world. I know of no other media organisation which are so strict about impartiality their own comedians have to be careful and which publish reports of their own highlighting where they're biased and recognising it as a problem!