A couple of questions I have...

*Disclaimer: The Earth is round, you numbnuts*

If the Earth is, indeed, flat, what's on the other side? Mind posting one of your insane, nonsensical, clusterfucks of a math equation to show that there's the colony of super-intelligent lizard people who made humans on the other side?

If I were to fly, in a plane, in a straight line from California, why wouldn't I fly off the edge of Earth? Does someone have a equation for that, too?

If I were to ride in a boat, in a straight line from the Eastern Coast of, say, Australia, why wouldn't I crash into into whatever is holding the water in?

How do you explain time zones?

How about gravity?

What would be the motivation behind saying the Earth is round?

Welcome to FES. I am not allowed to post about lizard people. My thread was locked.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=46739.msg1155119#msg1155119

I am also not allowed to tell you what is on the other side of the earth. My thread got booted to the nonsense section.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45424.msg1121138#msg1121138

However your other questions are asked all the time. I would recommend reading the FAQ and then asking about the things it did not cover.

It's turtles, all the way down!

Really though, FET probably would conjecture that it's just dirt or rocks or whatnot.  And yes, if you went in a straight line long enough you would fly right to the edge of the world and see the icewall, beyond which is a vast wasteland of frozen tundra and harsh weather conditions that the sun's distant light cannot penetrate.  There is some debate whether you'd go over the edge, or whether it extends to infinity.

Problem is, there are a lot of things that either prevent you from getting there, or which prevent you from rendering acceptable evidence of your journey.  Among them are:

-Light bends, so you may become incapable of determining your direction of travel and end up back at on one of the standard continents.

-GPS tracking data might contain algorithms which cause GPS units to display the appearance of a round Earth, when really it is flat.  This misdirection would probably lead you away from the icewall and back to land.

-The Conspiracy may have set up watchposts or patrols around the near perimeter of the icewall, to prevent wayward explorers from discovering the Truth and returning with evidence to civilization.


Time zones are pretty straightforward; the Sun on a Flat Earth is generally proposed to be something like a spotlight that moves around the sky, illuminating different areas of the Earth at different times.  To my knowledge, this position still has issues with matching the light output from a spotlight to the predicted (and well-documented) daylight patterns that exist around the world.

Gravity works in one of two ways.  The infinite plane Earth holds that gravity works similar to how round Earthers think it does, meaning that matter attracts matter or bends space-time, etc.; the finite thickness and density but infinite expanse of the Earth is theorized to account for the gravitational effects we feel. 

The other option is Universal Acceleration, which is a whole other can of worms.  Essentially, everything in the universe is accelerated upward at a constant ~9.8 m/s^2, but the Earth shields us from those effects so we feel that acceleration towards the Earth (or that acceleration of the Earth towards us) and experience gravity.

And I don't know what's up with wind?  You're going to have to be more specific, I don't see why a flat Earth can't have high- and low-pressure atmospheric conditions to create wind.

Welcome to FES. I am not allowed to post about lizard people. My thread was locked.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=46739.msg1155119#msg1155119

I am also not allowed to tell you what is on the other side of the earth. My thread got booted to the nonsense section.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45424.msg1121138#msg1121138

However your other questions are asked all the time. I would recommend reading the FAQ and then asking about the things it did not cover.

thanks man, for the first time ever this forum hasnt made me rage but actually laugh out loud! before you ask why i do read if it makes me so mad: its becuase i will actually fall down dead if im ever convinced that we are indeed living a lie, but thats never going to happen

NASA and KFC has been perpetuating the scam.  I have been following them for some time.  I was recently told that there are others here who have also investigated this lie and are attempting to expose the truth.  I know Colonel Sanders was up to no good even before his promotion to Colonel in 35'.  He is also linked through vast amounts of evidence to the elimination of FDR, a flat earth advocate.

NASA and KFC has been perpetuating the scam.  I have been following them for some time.  I was recently told that there are others here who have also investigated this lie and are attempting to expose the truth.  I know Colonel Sanders was up to no good even before his promotion to Colonel in 35'.  He is also linked through vast amounts of evidence to the elimination of FDR, a flat earth advocate.

First of all, Welcome!

I do thank you for reporting that FDR was a flat earth advocate.  I was not aware of that and it is good when yet another Harvard graduate is added to the list supporting FET. 

Quote from: Archibald on August 12, 2011, 11:19:40 AM

NASA and KFC has been perpetuating the scam.  I have been following them for some time.  I was recently told that there are others here who have also investigated this lie and are attempting to expose the truth.  I know Colonel Sanders was up to no good even before his promotion to Colonel in 35'.  He is also linked through vast amounts of evidence to the elimination of FDR, a flat earth advocate.

First of all, Welcome!

I do thank you for reporting that FDR was a flat earth advocate.  I was not aware of that and it is good when yet another Harvard graduate is added to the list supporting FET.

This is yet another example of a so-called zetetic displaying blatant confirmation bias. gotham just accepted a statement with no evidence behind it as fact just because it supported his cause.

Quote from: gotham on August 12, 2011, 03:18:12 PM

Quote from: Archibald on August 12, 2011, 11:19:40 AM

NASA and KFC has been perpetuating the scam.  I have been following them for some time.  I was recently told that there are others here who have also investigated this lie and are attempting to expose the truth.  I know Colonel Sanders was up to no good even before his promotion to Colonel in 35'.  He is also linked through vast amounts of evidence to the elimination of FDR, a flat earth advocate.

First of all, Welcome!

I do thank you for reporting that FDR was a flat earth advocate.  I was not aware of that and it is good when yet another Harvard graduate is added to the list supporting FET.

This is yet another example of a so-called zetetic displaying blatant confirmation bias. gotham just accepted a statement with no evidence behind it as fact just because it supported his cause.

Incorrect.  It was really an impressive piece of information. I put the horse before the cart and looked into the matter before posting...

Quote from: General Disarray on August 12, 2011, 03:25:19 PM

Quote from: gotham on August 12, 2011, 03:18:12 PM

Quote from: Archibald on August 12, 2011, 11:19:40 AM

NASA and KFC has been perpetuating the scam.  I have been following them for some time.  I was recently told that there are others here who have also investigated this lie and are attempting to expose the truth.  I know Colonel Sanders was up to no good even before his promotion to Colonel in 35'.  He is also linked through vast amounts of evidence to the elimination of FDR, a flat earth advocate.

First of all, Welcome!

I do thank you for reporting that FDR was a flat earth advocate.  I was not aware of that and it is good when yet another Harvard graduate is added to the list supporting FET.

This is yet another example of a so-called zetetic displaying blatant confirmation bias. gotham just accepted a statement with no evidence behind it as fact just because it supported his cause.

Incorrect.  It was really an impressive piece of information. I put the horse before the cart and looked into the matter before posting...

one of you two should probably post something backing up your claim that he supported a flat earth.

The idea of a spinning globe is only a conspiracy of error that Moses, Columbus, and FDR all fought…

There's your unbiased source.

Quote from: Samuel K. Johnson

The idea of a spinning globe is only a conspiracy of error that Moses, Columbus, and FDR all fought…

There's your unbiased source.

What does unbiased have to do with confirmation.

I could find a person in the jungle of africa who is not biased on a complex technical topic, but that does not make him qualified or his opinion informed

Quote from: Samuel K. Johnson

The idea of a spinning globe is only a conspiracy of error that Moses, Columbus, and FDR all fought…

There's your unbiased source.

Who is Samuel K. Johnson? 

Quote from: Around And About on August 12, 2011, 06:06:18 PM

Quote from: Samuel K. Johnson

The idea of a spinning globe is only a conspiracy of error that Moses, Columbus, and FDR all fought…

There's your unbiased source.

Who is Samuel K. Johnson? 

The unholy progeny of Samuel Shenton and Charles K. Johnson, apparently.

P.S. It was sarcasm, Theo...the person I meant to quote (Charles K. Johnson) was "the president and energetic promoter of the International Flat Earth Society, which he and his wife ran from their home in California. He claimed the Apollo moon landings, and space exploration in general, were faked to lead people away from the truth of the Bible, which, in his opinion, taught the Earth was flat."

Like I said, blatant confirmation bias.

Because I am horribly bored I shall answer these questions to the best of my ability.

If the Earth is, indeed, flat, what's on the other side? Mind posting one of your insane, nonsensical, clusterfucks of a math equation to show that there's the colony of super-intelligent lizard people who made humans on the other side?

Knowing what's on the other side is difficult but seeing has how gravity doesn't exist then it is likely that the underside is simply molten rock with a thin layer of Iron.  You see the energy of the UA pushing the Earth up heats up the Iron.  The iron, being under constant pressure, doesn't melt.  However the heat of the Iron combined with the insulation of the rock above causes a large amount of molten rock to exist.

If I were to fly, in a plane, in a straight line from California, why wouldn't I fly off the edge of Earth? Does someone have a equation for that, too?

When you travel how do you know what direction you're going?  Turbulance, rough seas, all these things can throw off the accuracy of your "straight line" travel.  Various methods such as following the sunrise or stars are used to allow us to keep ourselves properly oriented.  However, if these things aren't actually traveling in a straight line relative to the Earth then neither will you.

If I were to ride in a boat, in a straight line from the Eastern Coast of, say, Australia, why wouldn't I crash into into whatever is holding the water in?

Same reason as above: A straight line requires you to follow something and if that something is going in a circle, then so will you.

How do you explain time zones?

Same reason as a Round Earth: The sun is overhead in only one place at a time.  Noon is when the sun is overhead.  This, timezones.

How about gravity?

A force pulling you down (such as gravity) is indistinguishable from an acceleration pushing you up.

What would be the motivation behind saying the Earth is round?

There is much speculation but I have to ask you this:
How would you react if you found out that your entire view of the Universe and how it works was wrong?

Knowing what's on the other side is difficult but seeing has how gravity doesn't exist then it is likely that the underside is simply molten rock with a thin layer of Iron.  You see the energy of the UA pushing the Earth up heats up the Iron.  The iron, being under constant pressure, doesn't melt.  However the heat of the Iron combined with the insulation of the rock above causes a large amount of molten rock to exist.

Unfortunately, that idea doesn't work with the observations from seismic studies.  The patterns of earthquake detection (and the associated S wave Shadow Zone) point clearly to a sphere, with a solid core and surrounded by liquid, then back into solid rock.

Quote from: Lorddave on August 13, 2011, 01:11:00 PM

Knowing what's on the other side is difficult but seeing has how gravity doesn't exist then it is likely that the underside is simply molten rock with a thin layer of Iron.  You see the energy of the UA pushing the Earth up heats up the Iron.  The iron, being under constant pressure, doesn't melt.  However the heat of the Iron combined with the insulation of the rock above causes a large amount of molten rock to exist.

Unfortunately, that idea doesn't work with the observations from seismic studies.  The patterns of earthquake detection (and the associated S wave Shadow Zone) point clearly to a sphere, with a solid core and surrounded by liquid, then back into solid rock.

A sphere?  No.  They find a solid mass.  It only appears to be a sphere because of how the S-Waves reverberate on it.  You see because the Iron is actually flat, it vibrates with the wave.  The vibration is reflected and to everyone it appears as though there's a shadow but in reality it's just a wave reflecting off a flat surface.

Or so some may believe. It's a possible explanation anyway. 

Quote from: Joeval on August 13, 2011, 02:37:29 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on August 13, 2011, 01:11:00 PM

Knowing what's on the other side is difficult but seeing has how gravity doesn't exist then it is likely that the underside is simply molten rock with a thin layer of Iron.  You see the energy of the UA pushing the Earth up heats up the Iron.  The iron, being under constant pressure, doesn't melt.  However the heat of the Iron combined with the insulation of the rock above causes a large amount of molten rock to exist.

Unfortunately, that idea doesn't work with the observations from seismic studies.  The patterns of earthquake detection (and the associated S wave Shadow Zone) point clearly to a sphere, with a solid core and surrounded by liquid, then back into solid rock.

A sphere?  No.  They find a solid mass.  It only appears to be a sphere because of how the S-Waves reverberate on it.  You see because the Iron is actually flat, it vibrates with the wave.  The vibration is reflected and to everyone it appears as though there's a shadow but in reality it's just a wave reflecting off a flat surface.

Or so some may believe. It's a possible explanation anyway.

Since I work in the oil and gas industry, I know people in a few different fields.  I mentioned this to a friend who is an engineer in seismic operations.  I will get his response for you in a few days when he stops laughing.

The best part by far is how you specifically reference iron...  I would love to see your calculations comparing the different layers that your seismic operation penetrated, and how the iron was so specifically different as to deserve special mention.

Quote from: Lorddave on August 13, 2011, 03:41:30 PM

Quote from: Joeval on August 13, 2011, 02:37:29 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on August 13, 2011, 01:11:00 PM

Knowing what's on the other side is difficult but seeing has how gravity doesn't exist then it is likely that the underside is simply molten rock with a thin layer of Iron.  You see the energy of the UA pushing the Earth up heats up the Iron.  The iron, being under constant pressure, doesn't melt.  However the heat of the Iron combined with the insulation of the rock above causes a large amount of molten rock to exist.

Unfortunately, that idea doesn't work with the observations from seismic studies.  The patterns of earthquake detection (and the associated S wave Shadow Zone) point clearly to a sphere, with a solid core and surrounded by liquid, then back into solid rock.

A sphere?  No.  They find a solid mass.  It only appears to be a sphere because of how the S-Waves reverberate on it.  You see because the Iron is actually flat, it vibrates with the wave.  The vibration is reflected and to everyone it appears as though there's a shadow but in reality it's just a wave reflecting off a flat surface.

Or so some may believe. It's a possible explanation anyway.

Since I work in the oil and gas industry, I know people in a few different fields.  I mentioned this to a friend who is an engineer in seismic operations.  I will get his response for you in a few days when he stops laughing.

The best part by far is how you specifically reference iron...  I would love to see your calculations comparing the different layers that your seismic operation penetrated, and how the iron was so specifically different as to deserve special mention.

I don't have any.  I'm just passing along a theory I do not subscribe to.