Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2011, 12:22:55 PM »
Every argument I make is made with the utmost sincerity, as my zetetic colleagues can corroborate.

I am a true Flat Earth Believer.
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2011, 03:49:57 PM »
Every argument I make is made with the utmost sincerity, as my zetetic colleagues can corroborate.

I'm sorry James, but when you start talking about telepathic, bioluminescent moon shrimp or seafaring dinosaur civilizations, you will have to forgive some of us for doubting your sincerity.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2011, 03:53:23 PM by markjo »
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2011, 05:46:44 PM »
Every argument I make is made with the utmost sincerity, as my zetetic colleagues can corroborate.

I'm sorry James, but when you start talking about telepathic, bioluminescent moon shrimp or seafaring dinosaur civilizations, you will have to forgive some of us for doubting your sincerity.

It seems a little presumptuous, even unfair, to cast doubts upon his sincerity without convincing evidence or reason to justify your doubt.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2011, 06:17:14 PM »
The reason I have doubted James's sincerity at times is because he sometimes presents information that is so far removed from conventional wisdom that one cannot help but be skeptical, and furthermore does so as if he were telling you what color the sky is. It seems that if he were indeed genuine and rational he would at least acknowledge the unusual nature of his claims so as to help deter claims of intentional trolling or outright insanity. (I realize that one could be simultaneously irrational and genuine, of course.)

But ultimately Fluffy is correct, it is presumptuous to make claims about another person's sincerity. It's just that it's a response that is difficult to suppress sometimes. And I mean no offense to James, he seems like a nice guy to me.
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2011, 06:24:50 PM »
Far removed from reality would be a better phrase to describe his "information".
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2011, 06:26:26 PM »
Every argument I make is made with the utmost sincerity, as my zetetic colleagues can corroborate.

I'm sorry James, but when you start talking about telepathic, bioluminescent moon shrimp or seafaring dinosaur civilizations, you will have to forgive some of us for doubting your sincerity.

It seems a little presumptuous, even unfair, to cast doubts upon his sincerity without convincing evidence or reason to justify your doubt.

If he truly believes in ancient dinosaur civilizations, he needs to talk to his doctor about changing his schizophrenia meds.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2011, 06:34:54 PM »
Does it matter? I think a good argument is more important than whether or not the person believes it.  The very word belief indicates that the person doesn't have absolute proof, but simply has faith.  I think I respect the debater a bit more who can put together a convincing, structured argument when they don't personally believe in it.   I don't understand the need to mock someone relentlessly if they admit they don't actually believe in FE.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2011, 06:41:50 PM »
Every argument I make is made with the utmost sincerity, as my zetetic colleagues can corroborate.

I'm sorry James, but when you start talking about telepathic, bioluminescent moon shrimp or seafaring dinosaur civilizations, you will have to forgive some of us for doubting your sincerity.

It seems a little presumptuous, even unfair, to cast doubts upon his sincerity without convincing evidence or reason to justify your doubt.

If he truly believes in ancient dinosaur civilizations, he needs to talk to his doctor about changing his schizophrenia meds.

What does schizophrenia have to do with thinking there used to be dinosaurs advanced enough to build boats??

Hint: It doesn't.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2011, 07:17:02 PM »
The reason I have doubted James's sincerity at times is because he sometimes presents information that is so far removed from conventional wisdom that one cannot help but be skeptical,

But this only shows your own intellectual inflexibility, your dogmatism in the face of ideas which challenge your preconceived point of view.

And I mean no offense to James, he seems like a nice guy to me.

Thank you for your cordiality. I am always thrilled when we are able to discuss things with appropriate civility; in this respect you are a model globularist.
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2011, 07:22:09 PM »
It seems a little presumptuous, even unfair, to cast doubts upon his sincerity without convincing evidence or reason to justify your doubt.

Actually, it's the other way around.  My doubts about his sincerity are because he has yet to provide any convincing evidence to justify his claims.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2011, 07:28:10 PM »
What does schizophrenia have to do with thinking there used to be dinosaurs advanced enough to build boats??

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia (pronounced /ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a disintegration of thought processes and of emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction.

Hint: It doesn't.

I'd suggest that one's grip on reality does affect how one's theories are judged.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2011, 07:40:35 PM »
What does schizophrenia have to do with thinking there used to be dinosaurs advanced enough to build boats??

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia (pronounced /?sk?ts??fr?ni?/ or /?sk?ts??fri?ni?/) is a mental disorder characterized by a disintegration of thought processes and of emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction.

Hint: It doesn't.

I'd suggest that one's grip on reality does affect how one's theories are judged.

Sometimes it seems like he has biphrenia, too, the way he can be nice one post and a complete troll the next.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2011, 08:50:39 PM »
Let's not make this a thread about speculating on the hypothetical mental disorders of other members, honestly people.  ::)

But anyway, you're welcome James. Although I do take issue with your accusation that I am a dogmatist, in that I think it's a bit hypocritical. I do not hold fast to my beliefs concerning the world's shape any more rigidly than you do. But if you are willing to concede the possibility that the earth may be spherical, I will concede that it might be discal. ;)
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2011, 10:03:44 PM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2011, 11:30:52 AM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2011, 11:37:31 AM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

It's just you.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2011, 11:38:19 AM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

It's just you.

No.  It's pretty obvious to me too.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2011, 12:05:21 PM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

It's just you.

It is. Fortuna also thinks Inception was a terrible movie and he thinks that cam whores are actually interested in him.

His judgment is obviously awful.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2011, 12:47:39 PM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

It's just you.

It is. Fortuna also thinks Inception was a terrible movie and he thinks that cam whores are actually interested in him.

His judgment is obviously awful.


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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2011, 01:03:13 PM »
Back on topic folks.
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2011, 02:30:56 PM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

It's just you.

No.  It's pretty obvious to me too.

It's just you as well.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2011, 04:12:31 PM »
If James is a troll, at least he's polite about it

You have any doubt that James is a troll? Maybe it's just me, but it's pretty obvious.

It's just you.

No.  It's pretty obvious to me too.

It's just you as well.

Don't worry, you're pretty obvious too.  :-*
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2011, 04:41:40 PM »
It's ok Markjo. We all know you are a RE DA.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2011, 06:22:48 PM »
Is it that obvious?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2011, 09:57:27 PM »
Is it that obvious?

Not to everyone.  He's been around too long.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2011, 12:09:02 PM »

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #86 on: February 20, 2011, 09:00:38 AM »
I don't believe in the conspiracy.
Your point?  What does this have to do with the sincerity of my beliefs?
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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2011, 09:23:39 AM »
I am a serious FE believer. I am available for interview on radio or TV.

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2011, 03:09:35 PM »
I don't believe in the conspiracy.
Your point?  What does this have to do with the sincerity of my beliefs?

How do you justify the Earth being flat without the conspiracy?

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Re: Does any "FE'er" actually believe in the theory?
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2011, 04:02:55 PM »
I don't believe in the conspiracy.
Your point?  What does this have to do with the sincerity of my beliefs?

How do you justify the Earth being flat without the conspiracy?

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