Australian lifeguards bring a man back with CPR and defibrillator.

CPR I'd believe.  That's what it's for.

But unless your in Cardiac Arrest, the paddles won't do spit.

CPR I'd believe.  That's what it's for.

But unless your in Cardiac Arrest, the paddles won't do spit.

Like, uh, say if you were fibrillating?

They can also help with toasting sandwiches.

Quote from: Lorddave on January 14, 2011, 08:14:52 PM

CPR I'd believe.  That's what it's for.

But unless your in Cardiac Arrest, the paddles won't do spit.

Like, uh, say if you were fibrillating?

Actually, it's more accurately ventricular fibrillation. No such thing as "fibrillating."

Paddles wont do anything if you're in cardiac arrest. Which means no heart activity at all. Ventricular fibrilation != cardiac arrest.

Interesting that he twitches when they zap him. Like, it makes sense, but I never really considered that.

They can also help with toasting sandwiches.

I really don't think they can.

Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 14, 2011, 08:37:12 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on January 14, 2011, 08:14:52 PM

CPR I'd believe.  That's what it's for.

But unless your in Cardiac Arrest, the paddles won't do spit.

Like, uh, say if you were fibrillating?

Actually, it's more accurately ventricular fibrillation. No such thing as "fibrillating."

Paddles wont do anything if you're in cardiac arrest. Which means no heart activity at all. Ventricular fibrilation != cardiac arrest.

Yeah, I know. I was saying that, since the paddles did do spit, the man's heart was probably fibrillating.

Quote from: Lorddave on January 14, 2011, 08:14:52 PM

CPR I'd believe.  That's what it's for.

But unless your in Cardiac Arrest, the paddles won't do spit.

Like, uh, say if you were fibrillating?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiac_arrest

Cardiac arrest is classified into "shockable" versus "non?shockable", based upon the ECG rhythm. The two shockable rhythms are ventricular fibrillation and pulseless ventricular tachycardia while the two non?shockable rhythms are asystole and pulseless electrical activity. This refers to whether a particular class of disrhythmia is treatable using defibrillation.[7]

Same thing actually.  Well... what cmdshft said.

Quote from: Jack1704 on January 15, 2011, 07:06:57 AM

They can also help with toasting sandwiches.

I really don't think they can.

Im pretty sure they can.

Cheese and onion.

Quote from: Benocrates on January 15, 2011, 03:51:30 PM

Quote from: Jack1704 on January 15, 2011, 07:06:57 AM

They can also help with toasting sandwiches.

I really don't think they can.

Im pretty sure they can.

Cheese and onion.

As the forum EMT, I can assure they cannot.

Australians are on the cutting edge of bringing people back, apparently.

If your heart is being compressed and then released and blood is flowing, you have a pulse. 

The question I have is...
How did they get the heart to start beating on it's own again?

Australians are on the cutting edge of bringing people back, apparently.

That's nothing new. We have those machines as well, have for years.

EMT-P's (aka Paramedics) have these machines called Lifepacks, which have all kinds of things, like EKG lines, automatic blood pressure cuff, IV monitor... And an external pacer. It basically does the same thing as the mechanical CPR machine minus automatic ventilations, except it delivers pacing pulses externally. Its pretty sweet.

Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 17, 2011, 11:25:56 AM

Australians are on the cutting edge of bringing people back, apparently.

That's nothing new. We have those machines as well, have for years.

EMT-P's (aka Paramedics) have these machines called Lifepacks, which have all kinds of things, like EKG lines, automatic blood pressure cuff, IV monitor... And an external pacer. It basically does the same thing as the mechanical CPR machine minus automatic ventilations, except it delivers pacing pulses externally. Its pretty sweet.

Yes, but after three hours on that thing, would you be able to come back? The impressive part was they were able to revive him after, basically, robot CPR for three hours.

Quote from: cmdshft on January 17, 2011, 03:22:58 PM

Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 17, 2011, 11:25:56 AM

Australians are on the cutting edge of bringing people back, apparently.

That's nothing new. We have those machines as well, have for years.

EMT-P's (aka Paramedics) have these machines called Lifepacks, which have all kinds of things, like EKG lines, automatic blood pressure cuff, IV monitor... And an external pacer. It basically does the same thing as the mechanical CPR machine minus automatic ventilations, except it delivers pacing pulses externally. Its pretty sweet.

Yes, but after three hours on that thing, would you be able to come back? The impressive part was they were able to revive him after, basically, robot CPR for three hours.

I'm sure you would be able to. It's not dependent on the machine. As long as oxygen is circulating to the brain, heart and the rest of the body, the heart muscle (myocardial tissue) will not die and can be revived.

Quote from: Jack1704 on January 16, 2011, 09:57:08 AM

Quote from: Benocrates on January 15, 2011, 03:51:30 PM

Quote from: Jack1704 on January 15, 2011, 07:06:57 AM

They can also help with toasting sandwiches.

I really don't think they can.

Im pretty sure they can.

Cheese and onion.

As the forum EMT, I can assure they cannot.

I have watched Holby twice and im pretty sure they did it on there.