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Fact
« on: December 11, 2010, 09:55:28 AM »
What is fact?

simple enough question
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Thork

Re: Fact
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 10:03:49 AM »
Also a question that has little to do with earth's shape either. There is a philosophy section below for those who want to find extra meaning in things that have little, and a dictionary on-line here.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact
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Re: Fact
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM »
Ok i will rephrase the question

IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?
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Re: Fact
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 10:39:12 AM »
Quote from: DJS on December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM
Ok i will rephrase the question

IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?

Only things which can be falsified or misinterpreted to show that the earth may be flat are accepted as fact here.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 10:46:50 AM »
i was actually gonna wait for a true beleiver to give me their versions of things and what they beleive is fact to the otherside so im gonna give it a few days lol
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Re: Fact
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2010, 12:15:45 PM »
Quote from: DJS on December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM
IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?

That the earth is flat.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2010, 01:09:29 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 11, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: DJS on December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM
IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?

That the earth is flat.

Like I said.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 04:45:14 PM »
FAQ
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Re: Fact
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 08:26:57 AM »
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What is fact?
Baby don't hurt me.  Don't hurt me.  No more.

No, but I think basically that the earth is flat, and the UA...everything else kinda varies between members.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 11, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: DJS on December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM
IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?

That the earth is flat.

Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 05:26:17 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 11, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: DJS on December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM
IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?

That the earth is flat.

Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.


Do you really think he's asking RE'ers? I'm guessing he's not.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 05:33:22 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

Argumentum ad populum.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 05:33:33 PM »
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on December 12, 2010, 05:26:17 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 11, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: DJS on December 11, 2010, 10:07:01 AM
IN regard to flat earth theories what is considered fact within this board or community?

That the earth is flat.

Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.


Do you really think he's asking RE'ers? I'm guessing he's not.

I'm guessing he is, as round earthers are within this board or cumminity.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 05:34:58 PM »
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

Argumentum ad populum.

He's asking what the community view is. Therefore argumentum ad populum is argumentum totalium appropriatis.  :P
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Re: Fact
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 05:39:16 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

Argumentum ad populum.

He's asking what the community view is. Therefore argumentum ad populum is argumentum totalium appropriatis.  :P

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Re: Fact
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 05:41:59 PM »
Yeah, actually that confirms I'm right. The forum as an entity has no official view other than that of Daniel, therefore to find out the community view, you need to take the view of the people within it.
I think I liked the Screaming Skull avatar better than the Gay Rugby Player, btw.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 05:45:55 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:41:59 PM
Yeah, actually that confirms I'm right. The forum as an entity has no official view other than that of Daniel, therefore to find out the community view, you need to take the view of the people within it.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

 ::)
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Re: Fact
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 05:47:27 PM »
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:41:59 PM
Yeah, actually that confirms I'm right. The forum as an entity has no official view other than that of Daniel, therefore to find out the community view, you need to take the view of the people within it.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

 ::)

Is this supposed to mean something? Do you think they contradict (which they don't) or are you just spamming?
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Re: Fact
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 05:47:33 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:33:33 PM
I'm guessing he is, as round earthers are within this board or cumminity.


Well, I'm guessing you're probably wrong. We'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 05:49:07 PM »
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on December 12, 2010, 05:47:33 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:33:33 PM
I'm guessing he is, as round earthers are within this board or cumminity.


Well, I'm guessing you're probably wrong. We'll have to wait and see.

[itchy] No, there are round earthers within this board, I am one of them! [/itchy]
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Re: Fact
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 05:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:41:59 PM
Yeah, actually that confirms I'm right. The forum as an entity has no official view other than that of Daniel, therefore to find out the community view, you need to take the view of the people within it.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

 ::)

Is this supposed to mean something? Do you think they contradict (which they don't) or are you just spamming?

You are as much right as you are wrong on this one. Just because you think you try to "put some sense", i.e. to make everyone to conform to your opinion, does not make you right.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 05:53:47 PM »
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 05:41:59 PM
Yeah, actually that confirms I'm right. The forum as an entity has no official view other than that of Daniel, therefore to find out the community view, you need to take the view of the people within it.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Wrong, Tom. A minority of posters on this site either think the earth is flat or pretend they do. The majority of posters here are roundies trying to smash some sense into you. Just because you think you're more important does not mean your minority view takes precedent in an open public debate.

 ::)

Is this supposed to mean something? Do you think they contradict (which they don't) or are you just spamming?

You are as much right as you are wrong on this one. Just because you think you try to "put some sense", i.e. to make everyone to conform to your opinion, does not make you right.

So... as far as I can tell, you are claiming that my statement that the majority of people who post on here are round earthers is incorrect? Well tell you what, why not count up all the posts by each member, including ones that hardly post at all, and see what views they put forward. When you've done your bean counting, let me know.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2010, 05:56:37 PM »
No, I'm claiming that your effort to refute TB's claim that it is a fact the Earth is indeed flat by using an appeal to majority is wrong just as much.

EDIT:
The results are in:

Search query: the Earth is flat

Search Query: The Earth is round
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Re: Fact
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2010, 06:05:38 PM »
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:56:37 PM
No, I'm claiming that your effort to refute TB's claim that it is a fact the Earth is indeed flat by using an appeal to majority is wrong just as much.

EDIT:
The results are in:

Search query: the Earth is flat

Search Query: The Earth is round

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Is that supposed to be what I asked for? I think you're a bit out of your depth here, return to Random Musings.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2010, 06:08:19 PM »
Quote from: Thermal Detonator on December 12, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: parsec on December 12, 2010, 05:56:37 PM
No, I'm claiming that your effort to refute TB's claim that it is a fact the Earth is indeed flat by using an appeal to majority is wrong just as much.

EDIT:
The results are in:

Search query: the Earth is flat

Search Query: The Earth is round

It is a perfect demonstrations of the futility of the methods for settling issues you had proposed.

lolwut?
Is that supposed to be what I asked for? I think you're a bit out of your depth here, return to Random Musings.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2010, 06:08:35 PM »
Please see Data Consistency Test in the other section, where the Round Earthers are counted as 62.5% of the sample (in fact it's higher than that as I know for a fact that at least one of the other data entries was by an incognito roundy.)
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Re: Fact
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2010, 12:03:04 AM »
I'm a round earther but i really don't see the point in stating which theory i believe in is relevant because i was just curious to see what ideas and theory's are most prevelant within the board.
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Re: Fact
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2010, 11:38:28 AM »
So...would the end of this argument define fact or not? If it doesn't, there's no use continuing it here, because that's not what the OP was asking.
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