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« on: December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM »
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat. does that mean that the pope is against it because he says the earth is round
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 05:36:50 PM »
The Pope directly contravenes the prescriptions of the Bible with his flagrant globularism. You make a fine point, my new friend and associate.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2010, 06:34:25 PM »
flagrant? pretty strong words, what evidence do you have that he is purposely being offensive?
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Re: bible
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 01:28:51 AM »
Quote from: Pie_is_good on December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat.
Justify this statement.
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Re: bible
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 09:40:46 AM »
Globularism is inherently offensive.
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Re: bible
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 12:19:12 PM »
Quote from: James on December 02, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
Globularism is inherently offensive.
I disagree. No theory (aside from racial supremacy hypotheses and the like) is offensive in its nature. I do not find FET offensive. Incorrect, but not offensive.
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Re: bible
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 05:43:44 PM »
Quote from: James on December 02, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
Globularism is inherently offensive.
I know, that damn sun and it's ability to put out fires.
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Re: bible
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 07:29:48 PM »
Quote from: Hazbollah on December 02, 2010, 12:19:12 PM
Quote from: James on December 02, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
Globularism is inherently offensive.
I disagree. No theory (aside from racial supremacy hypotheses and the like) is offensive in its nature. I do not find FET offensive. Incorrect, but not offensive.


Yes, but James is talking about Globularism, not RET. RET is merely a theory, but globularism is a different beast altogether.
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Re: bible
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 08:45:33 PM »
I don't understand, I though Globularism was the same as RET?
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Re: bible
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 08:56:55 PM »
Quote from: Vindictus on December 02, 2010, 08:45:33 PM
I don't understand, I though Globularism was the same as RET?


I usually consider globularism to include globularist influence on culture and politics, whereas RET is a purely theoretical model. The two terms overlap to some degree however, and can be considered synonymous.
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Re: bible
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 09:14:47 PM »
Globularism encompasses the blind faith of a sheeple public and mass media propaganda for a globe earth.
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Re: bible
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 11:56:54 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 02, 2010, 09:14:47 PM
Globularism encompasses the blind faith of a sheeple public and mass media propaganda for a globe earth.
This.

Globularism goes beyond the "model" into the mindset that leads to the model.  I know Round Earthers who are not globularist, however, the vast majority are.
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Re: bible
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 04:58:02 AM »
Globularism is a mindset hostile to the most basic decencies of rational enlightement.
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Re: bible
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 06:44:03 AM »
Quote from: Pie_is_good on December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat. does that mean that the pope is against it because he says the earth is round


he also says that God speaks to him. You have to question the mans sanity
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Re: bible
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 06:54:25 AM »
Quote from: monkeybradders on December 03, 2010, 06:44:03 AM
Quote from: Pie_is_good on December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat. does that mean that the pope is against it because he says the earth is round

he also says that God speaks to him. You have to question the mans sanity

Why is it when a man speaks to God, they say that he's praying, but when God speaks to him, they say that he's crazy?
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Re: bible
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 06:58:02 AM »
Quote from: markjo on December 03, 2010, 06:54:25 AM
Quote from: monkeybradders on December 03, 2010, 06:44:03 AM
Quote from: Pie_is_good on December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat. does that mean that the pope is against it because he says the earth is round

he also says that God speaks to him. You have to question the mans sanity

Why is it when a man speaks to God, they say that he's praying, but when God speaks to him, they say that he's crazy?

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Re: bible
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2010, 09:31:31 PM »
What exact biblical quotes say that the earth is flat.

(I've looked it up and all I can find are things about "four corners" which doesn't necessarily mean the Earth is flat. All that is, is an example of how grammar evolves over time. If this is the proof by association you're calling Shakespeare Mentally Retarded, because if you used Shakespeare's grammar today you would be considered grammatically incorrect or in other words retarded.)
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Re: bible
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2010, 02:06:19 PM »
All ancient near-eastern world views are flat earth.
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Re: bible
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2010, 12:10:04 PM »
Quote from: Youguysaredumb on December 04, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
What exact biblical quotes say that the earth is flat.

(I've looked it up and all I can find are things about "four corners" which doesn't necessarily mean the Earth is flat. All that is, is an example of how grammar evolves over time. If this is the proof by association you're calling Shakespeare Mentally Retarded, because if you used Shakespeare's grammar today you would be considered grammatically incorrect or in other words retarded.)


Samuel Birley Rowbotham writes extensively on scriptural geography and cosmology in chapter 15 of Earth Not a Globe:


http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za66.htm


Such analysis is a feature of some other Flay Earth literature as well.
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Re: bible
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2010, 04:54:53 AM »
I would assume the "Bible says the Earth is flat" somewhere in Genesis.  It should be noted, that the large majority of Christians take Genesis to be a work of fiction, or a metaphor.  Very few are Creationists who take Genesis to be truth. 

I'd hazard a guess the Pope isn't a creationist. 
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Re: bible
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2010, 05:09:38 AM »
Quote from: Pie_is_good on December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat. does that mean that the pope is against it because he says the earth is round
Verse?
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Re: bible
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2010, 07:40:38 AM »
Quote from: Ski on December 05, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
All ancient near-eastern world views are flat earth.
Many far eastern and most western views also hold a horizontal cosmology which implies a flat earth.
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Re: bible
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2010, 07:56:29 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on December 19, 2010, 07:40:38 AM
Quote from: Ski on December 05, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
All ancient near-eastern world views are flat earth.
Many far eastern and most western views also hold a horizontal cosmology which implies a flat earth.
Many ancient views held that there were many deities controlling various aspects of their lives.  Are you sure that you want to trust that these guys had an accurate cosmology?
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Re: bible
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2010, 08:13:24 AM »
Quote from: markjo on December 19, 2010, 07:56:29 AM
Quote from: John Davis on December 19, 2010, 07:40:38 AM
Quote from: Ski on December 05, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
All ancient near-eastern world views are flat earth.
Many far eastern and most western views also hold a horizontal cosmology which implies a flat earth.
Many ancient views held that there were many deities controlling various aspects of their lives.  Are you sure that you want to trust that these guys had an accurate cosmology?
No, of course not.  However it is interesting.

On the other hand, I could take that same statement and say "Many current views hold that there are deities or a deity that controls various aspects of our lives.  Are we to trust current cosmology?"  One ridiculous belief does not nullify all beliefs of a culture.
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2010, 08:55:05 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on December 19, 2010, 08:13:24 AM
On the other hand, I could take that same statement and say "Many current views hold that there are deities or a deity that controls various aspects of our lives.  Are we to trust current cosmology?" 

I suppose that depends on whether you are referring to the religious views of cosmology or the scientific views of cosmology.  Often times in ancient cultures, there was no difference between the two.
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Re: bible
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2010, 10:25:51 PM »
Quote from: markjo on December 19, 2010, 08:55:05 AM
Quote from: John Davis on December 19, 2010, 08:13:24 AM
On the other hand, I could take that same statement and say "Many current views hold that there are deities or a deity that controls various aspects of our lives.  Are we to trust current cosmology?" 

I suppose that depends on whether you are referring to the religious views of cosmology or the scientific views of cosmology.  Often times in ancient cultures, there was no difference between the two.
There could be an argument made that even in modern cultures views of cosmology are somewhat faith based due to ultimately the lack of first hand experience of the heavens in their whole or even a minute part.
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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2010, 10:41:05 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on December 19, 2010, 10:25:51 PM
There could be an argument made that even in modern cultures views of cosmology are somewhat faith based due to ultimately the lack of first hand experience of the heavens in their whole or even a minute part.

And there are others who would argue that several hundred individuals do have some first hand experience of the heavens (at least a minute part).
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Re: bible
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2010, 12:21:22 PM »
Quote from:  Mad James on December 03, 2010, 04:58:02 AM
Globularism is a mindset hostile to the most basic decencies of rational enlightement.

Which is why, brothers, we have achieved so little under the yoke of globularism. Nuclear power, air travel, modern medicine, understanding of the history and geology of our planet, manufacturing and construction would never have been achieved if we had allowed the wicked globularists to have their way. So return to your wattle-and-daub huts and shiver, glad in the knowledge that science will get you nowhere if you base it on testable hypotheses.
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Re: bible
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2011, 11:11:31 PM »
Quote from: Pie_is_good on December 01, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
hey it says in the bible that earth is flat.

Where?
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Re: bible
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2011, 11:28:56 PM »
Quote from: markjo on December 19, 2010, 07:56:29 AM
Quote from: John Davis on December 19, 2010, 07:40:38 AM
Quote from: Ski on December 05, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
All ancient near-eastern world views are flat earth.
Many far eastern and most western views also hold a horizontal cosmology which implies a flat earth.
Many ancient views held that there were many deities controlling various aspects of their lives.  Are you sure that you want to trust that these guys had an accurate cosmology?

What is today's Mother Nature, if not a deity?
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