Verifiable Objective Evidence of Apollo 11

Evidence with attribution....
Evidence recorded in two locations....
Evidence backed up by witness testimony....

Verifiable--Check
Objective--Check
Evidence--Check

RET better than FET -- Check

Reference: http://news.discovery.com/space/apollo-11-moon-landing-footage.html

An excellent find Brother Clocktower! Your service to the cause knows no bounds!

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

What is FER?

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

You could fly to Australia and attend the ceremony. You could read in detail about the effort to find and recover the evidence. You could calculate the reason Goldstone was below the horizon. You could examine the evidence in detail, like MythBusters did. You could visit the NA&SM in D. C. You could visit the Neil Armstrong Museum in Ohio. You could visit Florida or Texas and examine a Saturn V. You could read about the detailed results of the tests on the samples returned.

There's a lot you could do.

What is FER?

Fixed.

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

Not unless you can provide some verifiable objective evidence that this is the case.

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

No.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.

Quote from: James on September 28, 2010, 07:20:36 PM

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

No.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.

At least you get echoes when arguing with a brick wall.

Quote from: James on September 28, 2010, 07:20:36 PM

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

You could fly to Australia and attend the ceremony. You could read in detail about the effort to find and recover the evidence. You could calculate the reason Goldstone was below the horizon. You could examine the evidence in detail, like MythBusters did. You could visit the NA&SM in D. C. You could visit the Neil Armstrong Museum in Ohio. You could visit Florida or Texas and examine a Saturn V. You could read about the detailed results of the tests on the samples returned.

There's a lot you could do.

I asked if you could ease my suspicions, since it was you who posted this article and called it, and I quote, "Verifiable Objective Evidence". And yet it seems, you cannot in fact present any such evidence, all you can do is demand that I compass the Earth in order to watch some self-congratulatory space ceremony. Why did you misrepresent what you are posting as "evidence", when in fact it is just a claim??

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

James is clearly correct.  It is abundantly obvious that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall.

Could a mod please split off James' derailment attempt?

wut? James didn't try to derail anything.

General Disarray, please keep moderation requests in the appropriate forum (S&C). Consider this an official warning (from a moderator - me).

Evidence with attribution....
Evidence recorded in two locations....
Evidence backed up by witness testimony....

Verifiable--Check
Objective--Check
Evidence--Check

RET better than FET -- Check

Reference: http://news.discovery.com/space/apollo-11-moon-landing-footage.html

yay! there are actually sane people on this site!

Quote from: ClockTower on September 28, 2010, 07:25:03 PM

Quote from: James on September 28, 2010, 07:20:36 PM

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

You could fly to Australia and attend the ceremony. You could read in detail about the effort to find and recover the evidence. You could calculate the reason Goldstone was below the horizon. You could examine the evidence in detail, like MythBusters did. You could visit the NA&SM in D. C. You could visit the Neil Armstrong Museum in Ohio. You could visit Florida or Texas and examine a Saturn V. You could read about the detailed results of the tests on the samples returned.

There's a lot you could do.

I asked if you could ease my suspicions, since it was you who posted this article and called it, and I quote, "Verifiable Objective Evidence". And yet it seems, you cannot in fact present any such evidence, all you can do is demand that I compass the Earth in order to watch some self-congratulatory space ceremony. Why did you misrepresent what you are posting as "evidence", when in fact it is just a claim??

I have presented evidence with the link. The very existence of that page on discovery.com meets the criteria of both evidence and objective.

I have given you a means to verify the evidence. "Verifiable" means that you can challenge it and test it. That's unlike your claim that you dreamed that beyond the Ice Wall was a dangerous expanse. I can't verify that.

"Verifiable" does not mean that I have to go out to verify it. It means that you can go out to verify it. And I've even told you how.

You really need to get a grip, dogplatter. We're proving our case, and your attacks continue to pale, becoming more juvenile by the day.

Quote from: James on September 28, 2010, 07:20:36 PM

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

James is clearly correct.  It is abundantly obvious that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall.

Please present VOE to support your claim.

Quote from: James on September 28, 2010, 07:20:36 PM

I expect that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall, or else in some place with few human inhabitants, such as the Sahara desert, or Dartmoor. Can you ease my suspicions?

James is clearly correct.  It is abundantly obvious that this footage was taken on the Ice Wall.

there is no Ice wall.
if there is, global warming will melt it. then where is your theory

I have presented evidence with the link. The very existence of that page on discovery.com meets the criteria of both evidence and objective.

Nowhere in the standard lexicon of any serious critical discourse does "published on discovery.com" satisfy the definitive conditions of "evidence" or "objective". What are you on?

I have given you a means to verify the evidence. "Verifiable" means that you can challenge it and test it. That's unlike your claim that you dreamed that beyond the Ice Wall was a dangerous expanse. I can't verify that.

So your answer to my question, which was "can you do anything to ease my suspicions", is properly "no James, I cannot do anything to ease your suspicions".

You really need to get a grip, dogplatter. We're proving our case, and your attacks continue to pale, becoming more juvenile by the day.

ClockTower, there is no "we". You are a guy posting on an internet web forum. Your posts are like those of many other people who have made similar posts over the last 4 years. They are unimportant, unconvincing, and betraying of a consuming frustration and misapprehension of your own significance. Nothing you post is of value or interest. You are suffering from delusions of grandeur. I am worried about you.

Quote from: ClockTower on September 28, 2010, 07:46:18 PM

I have presented evidence with the link. The very existence of that page on discovery.com meets the criteria of both evidence and objective.

Nowhere in the standard lexicon of any serious critical discourse does "published on discovery.com" satisfy the definitive conditions of "evidence" or "objective". What are you on?

Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim? I doubt that you can even manage to use an online dictionary to make your case. It really is sad to watch you spiral down. Perhaps a vacation from the forums will open your mind to the Truth.

I love how I present a link to a science-oriented publication and you attack it, but you can't manage a single citation to support your case. Sad.

Pretty sure it's impossible to ease the suspicions of someone that accepts nothing but what their mind tells them.

Quote from: ClockTower on September 28, 2010, 07:46:18 PM

I have given you a means to verify the evidence. "Verifiable" means that you can challenge it and test it. That's unlike your claim that you dreamed that beyond the Ice Wall was a dangerous expanse. I can't verify that.

So your answer to my question, which was "can you do anything to ease my suspicions", is properly "no James, I cannot do anything to ease your suspicions".

Not really. The proper response to a lazy person is to remind them of their duties and possibilities. Perhaps your mother failed to cover this piece of etiquette. Reference: http://www.ehow.com/video_4984174_manage-lazy-employees.html.

Please do not make personal attacks in the serious discussion forums! Consider this an official warning.

I am not lazy, and my mother has nothing to do with this thread. Watch it, Clocktower.

You know what - a little off topic.

But who has seen the Icewall?  I mean explorer wise.  I hear a lot about there is irrefutable proof that there is an ice wall but never seen a site or a document for it.  Except for one obviously trolled picture that gets jumped on fairly often.

So unless someone proves that there is an icewall obviously no photo could be taken from it.

Berny

Hi Berny, the coast of the Icewall is what Round Earthers call Antarctica. Lots of people have seen it, even people from this website, but also famous globularist explorers and adventurers as well.