Gaping edge

Where is the gaping edge . . .?

Oh that's right there isn't one because the earths is round

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places we cannot see, whether it be with  planes. boats or satelites.
Yes there are certain places boats and planes can't go, but we've uncovered enough of the earths surface to understand that the earth are no gaping edges and it being round makes complete sense
Everyone has seen the world.
Only so many people can lie.

your theory fails

What is a gaping edge?

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

What is a gaping edge?

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

This is true.  There are areas planes and boats can not go.
Boats, for example, can't go into  Kansas.
Planes can't go into certain areas of the Himalayas due to weather.

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

That is both incorrect and irrelevant.

and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

No, no, I'm quite convinced that boats do, in fact, exist.

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 03:31:01 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

That is both incorrect and irrelevant.

It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.

What is a gaping edge?

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

then how do you explain globes? all the tiny islands, all the bodies of water.
We've all seen it. Why do you refuse to believe it

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 03:31:01 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

That is both incorrect and irrelevant.

It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.

A plane is a fixed wing aircraft generating lift with forward momentum, simple as that.

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

What is a gaping edge?

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

then how do you explain globes? all the tiny islands, all the bodies of water.
We've all seen it. Why do you refuse to believe it

How do I explain what...?

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 03:31:01 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

That is both incorrect and irrelevant.

It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.

Its a matter of you not knowing the definition of planes.

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 09:31:28 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 03:31:01 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

That is both incorrect and irrelevant.

It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.

A plane is a fixed wing aircraft generating lift with forward momentum, simple as that.

And satellite is an object  which has been placed into orbit by human endeavor. If that object is plane then plane is satellite and satellite is plane. Simple as that.

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 02:44:10 PM

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 09:31:28 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: zork on August 08, 2010, 03:31:01 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM

Quote from: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

I disagree.

  Satellites are also kind of planes.

That is both incorrect and irrelevant.

It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.

A plane is a fixed wing aircraft generating lift with forward momentum, simple as that.

And satellite is an object  which has been placed into orbit by human endeavor. If that object is plane then plane is satellite and satellite is plane. Simple as that.

Flight does not equate to orbit.
Also a satellite is not necessarily an object placed by humans

Quote from: zork on August 09, 2010, 03:10:55 PM

And satellite is an object  which has been placed into orbit by human endeavor. If that object is plane then plane is satellite and satellite is plane. Simple as that.

Flight does not equate to orbit.
Also a satellite is not necessarily an object placed by humans

But the definition of flight is also
a passing through the air or through space outside the earth's atmosphere
a trip made by or in an airplane or spacecraft
So, there is satellite flight. And even when a satellite is not necessarily an object placed by humans it still can be a object placed by humans. So, I can freely view the satellites as planes which fly up there.

From the Wikipedia article "Fixed-wing aircraft" (redirecting from aeroplane/plane)

# A long narrow, cylindrical, spherical, odd shaped, form, called a fuselage, usually with tapered or rounded ends to make its shape aerodynamically smooth. The fuselage carries the human flight crew if the aircraft is piloted, the passengers if the aircraft is a passenger aircraft, other cargo or payload, and engines and/or fuel if the aircraft is so equipped. The pilots operate the aircraft from a cockpit  located at the front or top of the fuselage and equipped with windows, controls, and instruments. Passengers and cargo occupy the remaining available space in the fuselage. Some aircraft may have two fuselages, or additional pods or booms.
# A wing (or wings in a multiplane) with an airfoil cross-section shape, used to generate aerodynamic lifting force to support the aircraft in flight by deflecting air downward as the aircraft moves forward. The wing halves are typically symmetrical about the plane of symmetry (for symmetrical aircraft). The wing also stabilises the aircraft about its roll axis and the ailerons control rotation about that axis.

Satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind an important criteria for qualifying as an aeroplane.

From the Wikipedia article "Fixed-wing aircraft" (redirecting from aeroplane/plane)

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# A long narrow, cylindrical, spherical, odd shaped, form, called a fuselage, usually with tapered or rounded ends to make its shape aerodynamically smooth. The fuselage carries the human flight crew if the aircraft is piloted, the passengers if the aircraft is a passenger aircraft, other cargo or payload, and engines and/or fuel if the aircraft is so equipped. The pilots operate the aircraft from a cockpit  located at the front or top of the fuselage and equipped with windows, controls, and instruments. Passengers and cargo occupy the remaining available space in the fuselage. Some aircraft may have two fuselages, or additional pods or booms.
# A wing (or wings in a multiplane) with an airfoil cross-section shape, used to generate aerodynamic lifting force to support the aircraft in flight by deflecting air downward as the aircraft moves forward. The wing halves are typically symmetrical about the plane of symmetry (for symmetrical aircraft). The wing also stabilises the aircraft about its roll axis and the ailerons control rotation about that axis.

Satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind an important criteria for qualifying as an aeroplane.

Narrow minded thinking. Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics. Planes evolve, you know.

Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.

No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.

From the Wikipedia article "Fixed-wing aircraft" (redirecting from aeroplane/plane)

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# A long narrow, cylindrical, spherical, odd shaped, form, called a fuselage, usually with tapered or rounded ends to make its shape aerodynamically smooth. The fuselage carries the human flight crew if the aircraft is piloted, the passengers if the aircraft is a passenger aircraft, other cargo or payload, and engines and/or fuel if the aircraft is so equipped. The pilots operate the aircraft from a cockpit  located at the front or top of the fuselage and equipped with windows, controls, and instruments. Passengers and cargo occupy the remaining available space in the fuselage. Some aircraft may have two fuselages, or additional pods or booms.
# A wing (or wings in a multiplane) with an airfoil cross-section shape, used to generate aerodynamic lifting force to support the aircraft in flight by deflecting air downward as the aircraft moves forward. The wing halves are typically symmetrical about the plane of symmetry (for symmetrical aircraft). The wing also stabilises the aircraft about its roll axis and the ailerons control rotation about that axis.

Satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind an important criteria for qualifying as an aeroplane.

Not always true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOCE

"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."

Also, the ISS has to be boosted up every so often in order to maintain orbit, due to atmospheric drag.

True, most satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind, but they still have to deal with atmospheric drag.

"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."

So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Quote from: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 01:03:40 AM

"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."

So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Of course not, but clearly aerodynamics were involved in the design of GOCE.

Quote from: frostee on August 10, 2010, 01:45:11 AM

Quote from: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 01:03:40 AM

"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."

So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Of course not, but clearly aerodynamics were involved in the design of GOCE.

But it doesn't generate life through forward momentum thus making it a satellite with aerodynamic features but not a plane

Quote from: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 02:00:33 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 10, 2010, 01:45:11 AM

Quote from: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 01:03:40 AM

"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."

So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Of course not, but clearly aerodynamics were involved in the design of GOCE.

But it doesn't generate life through forward momentum thus making it a satellite with aerodynamic features but not a plane

Did I say GOCE was a plane? No.

I suggest that you improve your reading comprehension.

Quote from: zork on August 10, 2010, 12:48:09 AM

Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.

No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.

So what? Some terms are just used because of inertia even when you don't need air for planes anymore they are still called airplanes. And for the record, the term was just a plane before, not airplane.

just like i said, who gives a shit about the wiki definition of a airplane, FE'ers run aground again... explain the edge, show even a shread of evidence that isnt speculation, explain anything!!

Quote from: frostee on August 10, 2010, 01:01:13 AM

Quote from: zork on August 10, 2010, 12:48:09 AM

Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.

No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.

So what? Some terms are just used because of inertia even when you don't need air for planes anymore they are still called airplanes. And for the record, the term was just a plane before, not airplane.

Plane = Airplane = Aeroplane

Quote from: zork on August 10, 2010, 06:56:14 AM

Quote from: frostee on August 10, 2010, 01:01:13 AM

Quote from: zork on August 10, 2010, 12:48:09 AM

Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.

No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.

So what? Some terms are just used because of inertia even when you don't need air for planes anymore they are still called airplanes. And for the record, the term was just a plane before, not airplane.

Plane = Airplane = Aeroplane

It's your conservative view, I can' t argue that.

Okay then what is the difference between a plane and an aeroplane or an airplane? Remember we aren't talking about the flat, two dimensional surface variety here.

 We already have spaceplanes. And orbital spaceplanes. So, the plane is general term for man made things that fly up there. And if you really want to limit term plane with wings then everyone can design satellite with wings, even when you don't use them.
 Edit:
 And there is also underwater plane. So it seems to be general term about the things with wings and even doesn't include air or flying. I guess that there is nothing which forbids me to include the satellites under general plane term if they have something which are like the wings. Solar panels for example.

It is true, a satellite is in fact a type of aeroplane.

It is true, a satellite is in fact a type of aeroplane.

The moon is an aeroplane?!? 

The Moon is not a satellite!