Well done dogplatter

Although I disagree completely with you, I have to commend you for having an answer to most holes poked at your beliefs.

Although I disagree completely with you, I have to commend you for having an answer to most holes poked at your beliefs.

Thanks for your commendation.

I can assert only that there is always an answer for a hole that is being poked in the truth.

/agree.  

Cheers to Dogplatter and all the other FE'ers that take constant abuse. You do have RE fans.

also EnCrypto wrote:

Most argue it as a challenge... the challenge of debating something you don't believe to be true, and for the ones arguing round Earth, the challenge is proving it without being able to rely on outside sources, proving that Earth is round simply by using knowledge of mathematic and scientific principles and equations.

The dumbasses aren't the ones who believe (or argue) that Earth is flat... the dumbasses are the ones who think nobody has ever come in here and said "Ur Dumbasses! Look, heres a pikture of Erth!! Its round!!"

I dig the ppl that post here with thought. You make for an interesting forum. thanks

and can't comprehend ppl that come here and just flame. I guess it has just been too long since i had the maturity lvl of a 2nd grader.

Cheers to Dogplatter and all the other FE'ers that take constant abuse. You do have RE fans.

Hey, thanks buddy. Likewise, I think I speak for the rest of the FE contingent when I say that we really appreciate the civil Round Earthers like you who actually consider our assertions without the partisan hatred of the conspiracy, and are able to talk to us like sane, sensible human beings.

You're wrong about the shape of the Earth, but at least you're nice about it  

You're wrong about the shape of the Earth, but at least you're nice about it

couldn't have said it better myself.

dogplatter,me and you have had some really good arguments.i think one of our best ones got locked :cry: .and i admit i kinda went overboard on one.im stilling embarrassed about the whole "destruction" thing.3 cheers for dogplatter...hip hip horray!! x 3.

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Cheers to Dogplatter and all the other FE'ers that take constant abuse. You do have RE fans.

Hey, thanks buddy. Likewise, I think I speak for the rest of the FE contingent when I say that we really appreciate the civil Round Earthers like you who actually consider our assertions without the partisan hatred of the conspiracy, and are able to talk to us like sane, sensible human beings.

You're wrong about the shape of the Earth, but at least you're nice about it  

I don't know about you being sane and sensible, but i'll be damned if you don't have some quite intelligent... despite being wrong, arguments, that make for a fascinating day when bored.

Despite what some people (usually those who flame 20 posts then arent heard from again) think, you guys are some of the most intelligent people I've ever met(?) - Before stumbling across this site, the concept of this site (or what i suspect is the reason some people are here), that things could exist beyond what is commonly known/taught had not occured to me.

I guess that's obvious due to the nature of the concept, but even if you don't believe in Flat Earth, there's so much possibility of things being more than what they seem. Having only hit school in 1989 (and not seeing the need to research myself after school) everything's pretty well wrapped up in the modern curriculum (by that I mean well explained, not accurate). There's no need to question your surroundings (although an athiest [apologies if I've used the term incorrectly as many people do] upbringing would also have contributed) as your surroundings are explained to the molecule. Anything and everything has an explanation.

Since viewing this site and your intelligent posts on a range of subjects, I feel for the first time in my life wonder that things could be not as they seem. I had always harboured a secret desire for aliens to be the twist in an otherwise mapped world, but now anything seems possible.

I haven't changed my views on the shape of the globe (yet), but I've certainly come to accept that just because something is widely believed/accepted, doesn't mean its neccesarily true. Now I understand the ignorance of the acceptnace of truth - skeptisism (again sorry if I've used the term incorrectly, but I think you know what I mean) is the path to the actual truth.

Thank you to the intelligent posters (you know who you are) for opening my eyes to a world of possibility.

There's no need to question your surroundings (although an athiest [apologies if I've used the term incorrectly as many people do] upbringing would also have contributed) as your surroundings are explained to the molecule. Anything and everything has an explanation.

I can tell that you haven't had an atheist upbringing yourself. You may be surprised that most people who call themselves "skeptics" are also atheists. Check out the "Skeptical Enquirer" at some point. After all, it's a part of being an atheist not to believe what the majority of the world population believes.

Now I understand the ignorance of the acceptnace of truth - skeptisism (again sorry if I've used the term incorrectly, but I think you know what I mean) is the path to the actual truth.

Agreed. And Occam's razor is a mighty sword.

Sorry!!!! I knew I would use Aethiest incorrectly - obviously not knowing what the correct meaning is.

What I was trying to say was, I was brought up in a house with no religion (My parents came from different churches, so decided to let us make the decision for ourselves - something which I thank them for, but at the same time realise it limits my capability to accept such things at an older age), so the only explanation I had for the world was what school (therefore science) told me. So basically, unless I could see it, touch it, explain it, it couldnt be possible.

Sorry for the poor Aethiest drop. I saw it coming and swerved, but it was too late! :lol:

Rick i dig your post.

let me boil this down (probably way to far)

Atheist - there is no God

agnostic - doubtful/unclear/uncertain if there is a God

non-denominational - Belief (in this case a Christian God) but do not actively follow any one particular denomination of the Christian Faith. i.e. Catholic, Baptist, Orthodox.

theist - Firm believer in God. God plays an active role in his/her life.

And yes you are correct. Atheist do tend to question everything. Not all mind you, but you do have to question things @ least just a bit to go against the majority of the population. A lot of times to public ridicule. (imagine living in a place with more churches than gas stations and then telling ppl that you don't believe their is a God. they practically spit on you here in the South once they learn your atheist.)

A lot of atheist (myself included) were not raised that way. They questioned things and ended up coming to their own conclusion rather than following like sheep.

The same can be said of many theist (my father included). Rather than taking a back seat in religion they actively seek God through study, devotion, and prayer. Also questioning things and end up coming to their own conclusion rather than following.

Thank you to the intelligent posters (you know who you are)...

agreed.

THank you for the definitions ferakitten. Now at least I know what the word means (ROFL)..

I pity you having to live in a place where you are ridiculed because you don't believe in Certain things - it seems to hard to fathom that you could get mad at someone for not believing in something that can't be proven.

However that may be a product of my environment here in Canberra, Australia. Here, there are many different strains of religion in quite a small town (YES we are the capital of the country, but only 300,000 ppl) - There are churches, i believe there's a mosque (pls if I've used the term incorrectly i apologise) or at least a muslim building (that looks like a church - very impressive) of some variety, and christian, catholic and all the other sorts of churches around (lots of the ones with singing and dancing - almost like gospel but all white middle class bogans). BUt despite that, they all only have small groups of followers (by comparison to churches in the bigger cities and by the sounds of it, southern America) so no one really is in a position to be too precious about non-followers.

Having said that, we got a letter in the mail the other day from some lady trying to get us to see the ways of Jesus! It was hand written! We couldnt believe it! We had never seen anything like it! I mean, we get the mormans and the Jehovah's Witnesses come round maybe 2 or 3 times a year(!) but this was very forward for these parts. THe only evangelist shows we have are on at like 4 in the morning when we're all asleep!

Hearing your situation made me appreciate more the fairly non-judgmental town that I live in (in terms of religion ). Maybe should should come out to Australia for a holiday. I'm sure you'd love it out here.

I'd like say well done to all flat-earthers as well. I admire your rock hard determination despite all the barrages of insults you get from other roundies. Personally I don't think anyone should be assaulted so much because of having views different from everyone else's, and even though I don't really agree with you guys or your logic, I still say you should never give up for what you believe in. Rock on, guys.

I have to agree with NorthRider on this one, I mean, I usually argue for the flat earth, but to the people who actually believe it, KEEP THE FIGHT GOING.  Good Luck

it was my understanding that Aethist thinks there is god, an agnostic thinks there is a god but that god is not worthy of his worship

But that means everyone believes there is a god... What about those of us who don't believe there is a god at all (unconditionally)? What can I refer to myself as?

What can I refer to myself as?

How about "Rick James"?  Why do you feel the need for another label?

Lol Eras. Well played.
I don't feel the need for a "label", but I was curious as to the name for my beliefs (if any). Not so I can name-drop it all the time, but it's handy to know, so if ppl ask, I don't have to say "Well...... I don't believe there's a god... etc etc"

i thought if you dont believe in god then you are an aethiest....

or is that someone that believes there is just one true almight being???

theos = god
gnosos = knowledge
a = absence

Put them together as you like.

theos = a + gnosos?
lol.
I might settle for "Still deciding"

I think i will stick to the fact that nothing comes of nothing, but seriously, some dude sitting in a rockin chair in the big ol' blue.....please.

I certainly don't admire dogplatter. He's simply close-minded and goes against every philosophical atom in my mind.

He esentially represents the body of anti-knowledge, anti-reason which I so fundamentally detest. Every true and logical argument he refutes by citing conspiracies or rediculous explainations that have no evidence backing them up.

I would admire him far more if he brought real, concrete evidence to the table rather than making up complete bullshit.

Atheist - there exists no relevant 'God'

Agnostic - there can be no proof that there exists any relevant 'God'

Theism - there exists a 'God'



All of these have subsects, denominations, special interest groups and PR representatives, who believe (to varying degrees) these things.

I certainly don't admire dogplatter. He's simply close-minded and goes against every philosophical atom in my mind.

It takes more of an open mind to maintain belief in that which is not the status-quo. The most closed minded ones on this forum are those who think the Earth is round but haven't even given it any thought.

He esentially represents the body of anti-knowledge, anti-reason which I so fundamentally detest. Every true and logical argument he refutes by citing conspiracies or rediculous explainations that have no evidence backing them up.

You represent the body of actual anti-knowledge which I fundamentally detest (because it will one day destroy the Earth).

I would admire him far more if he brought real, concrete evidence to the table rather than making up complete bullshit.

I bring in more evidence than some of the REers here.

I think you bring in more than almost all of the newer RE people.  They get annoying.