Does the conspiracy monitor this site?

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Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« on: December 23, 2009, 08:58:35 PM »
Any flat earthers think the conspiracy is reading and posting? do you ever worry if they gunna get ya some day?

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2009, 04:49:07 AM »
I lol'd at your enthusiastic sarcasm. But why would it matter if the conspiaracy is posting here anyway? They would just look like noob trolls.
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2009, 05:32:24 AM »
Yes, it would be in the conspiracies best interest to watch this site.  I am not sure if they are posting or not though.  <_<    >_>

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2009, 11:49:21 AM »
Right now FE'ers represent no threat to the ruling elite. We are too small a group with little to no power and little to no influence. As long as we are regarded as a bunch of lunatics by the mainstream the elite won't care. In fact, they probably are laughing their asses off at how weak we are despite how right we are.

Now, if we were to grow in size and power; if the day came when we are debating this subject on Larry King and This Week and Good Morning America -- yes, then we would really have to watch our backs. I suggest that all interviews with the mainstream press should be conducting from undisclosed, remote locations via satellite.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 06:40:06 PM »
Right now FE'ers represent no threat to the ruling elite. We are too small a group with little to no power and little to no influence. As long as we are regarded as a bunch of lunatics by the mainstream the elite won't care. In fact, they probably are laughing their asses off at how weak we are despite how right we are.

Now, if we were to grow in size and power; if the day came when we are debating this subject on Larry King and This Week and Good Morning America -- yes, then we would really have to watch our backs. I suggest that all interviews with the mainstream press should be conducting from undisclosed, remote locations via satellite.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2009, 06:47:22 PM »
Right now FE'ers represent no threat to the ruling elite. We are too small a group with little to no power and little to no influence. As long as we are regarded as a bunch of lunatics by the mainstream the elite won't care. In fact, they probably are laughing their asses off at how weak we are despite how right we are.

Now, if we were to grow in size and power; if the day came when we are debating this subject on Larry King and This Week and Good Morning America -- yes, then we would really have to watch our backs. I suggest that all interviews with the mainstream press should be conducting from undisclosed, remote locations via satellite.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2009, 02:38:48 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2009, 02:50:26 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.
Thankfully we are a strong and close-knit family of Zetetics
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2009, 02:50:49 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.

There is no evidence of this.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2009, 02:53:29 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.

There is no evidence of this.


Um, I beg to differ. It happened to me. My first hand experience is evidence enough for me. James has also been threatened, and was actually attacked.
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2009, 03:58:45 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.
Thankfully we are a strong and close-knit family of Zetetics


Our sense of community is our strength. We must never lose sight of that.
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 04:19:04 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.

There is no evidence of this.


Um, I beg to differ. It happened to me. My first hand experience is evidence enough for me. James has also been threatened, and was actually attacked.

We have only your word for that. And James's word. Since you won't accept first hand testimony from anyone who has been into space, anyone who has been on Concorde and seen the curve of the earth, and many other people, then I'm afraid the rest of us must judge you by your own tight standards and declare your first hand testimony to be utterly worthless. Sorry about that, but it's your own doing.
Of course if you could provide some sort of evidence other than "I say so" then that would be another matter.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2009, 04:22:14 PM »
We have only your word for that. And James's word. Since you won't accept first hand testimony from anyone who has been into space, anyone who has been on Concorde and seen the curve of the earth, and many other people, then I'm afraid the rest of us must judge you by your own tight standards and declare your first hand testimony to be utterly worthless. Sorry about that, but it's your own doing.
Of course if you could provide some sort of evidence other than "I say so" then that would be another matter.


My first hand experience is evidence enough for me.
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2009, 04:23:18 PM »
We have only your word for that. And James's word. Since you won't accept first hand testimony from anyone who has been into space, anyone who has been on Concorde and seen the curve of the earth, and many other people, then I'm afraid the rest of us must judge you by your own tight standards and declare your first hand testimony to be utterly worthless. Sorry about that, but it's your own doing.
Of course if you could provide some sort of evidence other than "I say so" then that would be another matter.


My first hand experience is evidence enough for me.

Then don't bother telling the rest of us about it because none of us really believe you.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2009, 04:24:00 PM »
Several people believe me. Protip: you != everyone.
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 04:28:49 PM »
Several people believe me. Protip: you != everyone.

Protip: several people != real flat earth believers. Some of them are just pretending trolls. I'd say James is the only one who really believes you, maybe Bishop, and both of them give the appearance of people on the edge of insanity. Anyone else who says they believe you is likely making it up to dig in as FE trolls.
I think you and those other two are the only real FE believers in the society.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 04:30:21 PM »
Well, John also believes me, for what it's worth. Anyway, what's your point? ???
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2009, 04:40:00 PM »
Well, John also believes me, for what it's worth. Anyway, what's your point? ???

Oh yeah, forgot about John, who also appears to border on mental instability.
My point is that of the several people you think believe you, most of them are lying and the three that might really believe are the lunatic fringe.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2009, 04:47:53 PM »
So, do you have any evidence for your slanderous claims of mental instability and dishonesty? Or are we going in for a touch of hypocrisy this evening?


Because if not, then it's just your opinion, and then I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask once more what your point is...
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2009, 04:55:49 PM »
Don't worry. I believe you Wilmore.
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2009, 04:55:49 PM »
So, do you have any evidence for your slanderous claims of mental instability and dishonesty? Or are we going in for a touch of hypocrisy this evening?


Their collective posts on this forum. James appears to be unable to tell reality from fantasy (opinion based on what I have read in his posts), Bishop denies things that everyone can see with their own eyes (FACT based on what I have read in his posts) and John thinks the earth is an infinite plane despite there being no data that anything exists further away than Antarctica apart from the stars and planets (thus creating the appearance of one to whom reason does not apply).
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2009, 05:03:41 PM »
Their collective posts on this forum. James appears to be unable to tell reality from fantasy (opinion based on what I have read in his posts), Bishop denies things that everyone can see with their own eyes (FACT based on what I have read in his posts) and John thinks the earth is an infinite plane despite there being no data that anything exists further away than Antarctica apart from the stars and planets (thus creating the appearance of one to whom reason does not apply).


Opinion, opinion, and opinion. Fascinating stuff. Now, let's get back to my original question: what's your point? You think that people don't believe me. Gee, that was a low blow. Up until now I thought everyone believed the same things I do. ::)


Don't worry. I believe you Wilmore.


Thanks Ichi. Honestly, watch yourself. They probably have info on a lot of us.
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2009, 05:33:50 PM »
What is this I don't even.

Could you please tell the story of how you were threatened? I'd love to hear this.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2009, 06:12:06 PM »

 Now, let's get back to my original question: what's your point?


My point: You stated that the conspiracy had approached and threatened forum members. I was trying to make clear that this statement can not be taken as face value fact. In case anyone did. You confess you don't mind me doing this because you made it plain that you don't care if anyone else believes you because it's good enough for you.
To simplify - you don't mind that I raise the possibility you might be lying.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2009, 07:22:10 PM »
Not only do they monitor this site, they have approached and threatened more than one of us.

There is no evidence of this.


Um, I beg to differ. It happened to me. My first hand experience is evidence enough for me. James has also been threatened, and was actually attacked.

really? please give details. people emailing you pretending to be from the govt to have a little fun at your expense dosen't count.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2009, 07:25:09 PM by Sutekh »

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2009, 07:35:25 PM »
The conspiracy is obviously present here. Why else would certain members come up with completely nonsensical theories? Obviously they are here to discredit fe theory.

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2009, 08:02:26 PM »

 Now, let's get back to my original question: what's your point?


My point: You stated that the conspiracy had approached and threatened forum members. I was trying to make clear that this statement can not be taken as face value fact. In case anyone did. You confess you don't mind me doing this because you made it plain that you don't care if anyone else believes you because it's good enough for you.
To simplify - you don't mind that I raise the possibility you might be lying.


So your point was that not all statements can "be taken as face value fact(s)". It's good to know that you're here to help just in case any characters from The Invention of Lying show up.


really? please give details. people emailing you pretending to be from the govt to have a little fun at your expense dosen't count.


Read here:


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=27043.msg631312#msg631312
« Last Edit: December 26, 2009, 08:04:16 PM by Lord Wilmore »
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2009, 11:31:21 PM »
The conspiracy is obviously present here. Why else would certain members come up with completely nonsensical theories? Obviously they are here to discredit fe theory.

If there is a conspiracy it's some of the fe's, giving arguments so crazy as to convince people who are not sure, that fe is insane. Do I need to mention the antimoon that is impossible to ever observe yet which crops up during an esclipe only?

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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2009, 03:19:19 AM »
The conspiracy is obviously present here. Why else would certain members come up with completely nonsensical theories? Obviously they are here to discredit fe theory.

If there is a conspiracy it's some of the fe's, giving arguments so crazy as to convince people who are not sure, that fe is insane. Do I need to mention the antimoon that is impossible to ever observe yet which crops up during an esclipe only?

First of all, it's not the "Anti-Moon," it's the "Shadow Object." The Anti-Moon is a celestial body beneath the earth.

The Shadow Object is a satellite of the Sun, manifesting its shadow upon the moon when the Sun, Object, and Moon perfectly align. The Shadow Object does not pass between the observer and the Moon, but passes between the Sun and Moon. During an eclipse we see its shadow.

The Shadow Object is never seen because, as a satellite of the Sun, it is always on the "day" side of the earth. During the day the sun's light blots out all celestial bodies in the sky.

Learn More: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Lunar+Eclipse
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Re: Does the conspiracy monitor this site?
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2009, 04:55:16 AM »
The conspiracy is obviously present here. Why else would certain members come up with completely nonsensical theories? Obviously they are here to discredit fe theory.

If there is a conspiracy it's some of the fe's, giving arguments so crazy as to convince people who are not sure, that fe is insane. Do I need to mention the antimoon that is impossible to ever observe yet which crops up during an esclipe only?

First of all, it's not the "Anti-Moon," it's the "Shadow Object." The Anti-Moon is a celestial body beneath the earth.

The Shadow Object is a satellite of the Sun, manifesting its shadow upon the moon when the Sun, Object, and Moon perfectly align. The Shadow Object does not pass between the observer and the Moon, but passes between the Sun and Moon. During an eclipse we see its shadow.

The Shadow Object is never seen because, as a satellite of the Sun, it is always on the "day" side of the earth. During the day the sun's light blots out all celestial bodies in the sky.

Learn More: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Lunar+Eclipse
I can see the moon during the day sometimes  ;D
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