Explain this

For starters, I am aware that I misspelled my user name. It should be "Meteorologist", as in a scientist of the weather and atmosphere, and I want you to explain something to me, something that disagrees completely with your theories. In fact, there are many factors of weather that disagree with your beliefs, but I want to focus on one at the moment.

It is called the ICTZ, or the "Intertropical Convergence Zone". It is a ring of tropical activity near the equator that encircles the entire Earth. The ICTZ is known for sending hurricanes our way from the coast of Africa, where tropical waves come from. The ICTZ is formed by opposing trade winds from the northern and southern hemispheres, something that would not exist in a flat earth.

Other minor tidbits: Objects tend to rotate to the right in the northern hemisphere, and rotate left in the southern hemisphere, explain that. When cold fronts (whose existence also contradicts a flat earth, explain that) affect an area, the wind shifts are opposite in different hemispheres.

And please do not say that I am lieing, or that my facts, research, calculations, and knowledge are part of the conspiracy, I have been studying meteorology for a looong time, I know what I am talking about, thank you very much. The question is, do you?

And please do not say that I am lieing, or that my facts, research, calculations, and knowledge are part of the conspiracy, I have been studying meteorology for a looong time, I know what I am talking about, thank you very much. The question is, do you?

You're welcome very much.

I would guess that the 3 occurrences of the letter 'o' in long betray that you are, uh, "lieing" prior to anyone stating such.

I have no reason to lie. If I were planning on lieing, I never would have joined here. I added the "o"s because I am well informed and know what I am talking about, and I don't want people to think I have no idea what I am talking about. That is aside the point though, I want someone to attempt to prove my points false.

Generally, I find that people who emphasize their experience are often trying to draw attention away from their incompetence.  I'm not accusing, I'm just saying.

Generally, I find that people who avoid the main discussion of a topic and try to find its faults do so because they can't counter the argument presented.

There's no point arguing with Markjo, he's RE.  Lets just leave this until a FE'er pops into the thread, shall we?

I would suggest editing out the spelling/grammar mistakes in your original post.  Several FE'ers love to pick apart spelling and grammar instead of answering your original questions. 

The ICTZ is known for sending hurricanes our way from the coast of Africa,



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Hurricanes do not come our way from Africa. Generally they are generated in the Atlantic.

Please don't start a sentence with a conjunction

Please don't start a sentence with a conjunction

But hes already done it.

I have nooo reason tooo lie. If I were planning on lieing, I never wooould have joined here. I added the "ooo"s because I am well informed and knooow what I am talking about, and I dooon't want people tooo think I have nooo idea what I am talking about. That is aside the point thooough, I want someone tooo attempt tooo prooove my points false.

Corrected your post to increase your level of being informed.

Also, you abbreviated ZCTI incorrectly.

O.K. I'll simplify things as much as is possible.

(not true) Hurricanes hitting Britain do not come from Africa. They are generated in the central west Atlantic.

In any other ocean, they are not hurricanes.
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"(not true) Hurricanes hitting Britain do not come from Africa. They are generated in the central west Atlantic."

Let me get more specific. Hurricanes form from tropical waves that come from the coast of Africa. Sure, whenever a hurricane might heads toward Europe, it comes from the central Atlantic, but the systems originate from tropical waves that come from Africa along the ITCZ.

"In any other ocean, they are not hurricanes."

Scientifically they are, they just go by other names. Typhoons, which are western pacific hurricanes, rotate in the opposite direction of our hurricanes, because of the different hemisphere.

Scientifically they are, they just go by other names. Typhoons, which are western pacific hurricanes, rotate in the opposite direction of our hurricanes, because of the different hemisphere.

A hurricane threatening Britain is rotating (anti-clockwise) in the same direction as a typhoon threatening Taiwan.  The names are regional and not necessarily descriptive of rotation.

Please don't start a sentence with a conjunction

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"Yes hello?"
"Oh OK... I'll just ask... hold on..."
"It's the 1950's. They want their sentences back."

Stop with the content lacking posts.

"(not true) Hurricanes hitting Britain do not come from Africa. They are generated in the central west Atlantic."

Let me get more specific. Hurricanes form from tropical waves that come from the coast of Africa. Sure, whenever a hurricane might heads toward Europe, it comes from the central Atlantic, but the systems originate from tropical waves that come from Africa along the ITCZ.

"In any other ocean, they are not hurricanes."

Scientifically they are, they just go by other names. Typhoons, which are western pacific hurricanes, rotate in the opposite direction of our hurricanes, because of the different hemisphere.

Japan is in the southern hemisphere?

WPAC storms form from disturbances in the southern hemisphere. Japan itself is in the northern hemisphere. Anyways, none of you are discussing the original facts in my thread. It just proves that none of you can attack my argument.

is this website a joke or something? oh my goodness, that is just so pathetic..

is this website a joke or something? oh my goodness, that is just so pathetic..

Unfortunately this website is not a joke, these people actually think the world is flat, and I am trying to show them proof that it is not, but they won't respond to it because they do not want to admit that they are wrong.

It is called the ICTZ, or the "Intertropical Convergence Zone". It is a ring of tropical activity near the equator that encircles the entire Earth. The ICTZ is known for sending hurricanes our way from the coast of Africa, where tropical waves come from. The ICTZ is formed by opposing trade winds from the northern and southern hemispheres, something that would not exist in a flat earth.

Why could opposing trade winds not exist in a flat earth?

Other minor tidbits: Objects tend to rotate to the right in the northern hemisphere, and rotate left in the southern hemisphere, explain that. When cold fronts (whose existence also contradicts a flat earth, explain that) affect an area, the wind shifts are opposite in different hemispheres.

There are theories concerning the coriolis effect and their effect (Rossby etc..)   In my opinion, this is one of the areas flat earth theory is still under development.

John Davis, thank you very much for attacking my argument head on and allowing a true debate to form.

Why could opposing trade winds not exist in a flat earth?

Without hemispheres, which a flat earth would not allow, trade winds would need to be manufactured, and it is impossible to create artificial winds that would be powerful enough to spread around the entire earth.

In my opinion, this is one of the areas flat earth theory is still under development.

In my opinion, this means "oops, our theory does not support this, but we will fix that so our beliefs remain constant" to be honest.

Might not the moving FE sun account account for these various winds?   Just as onshore and offshore winds alternate but on a larger scale?

Trade winds on Earth's surface have nothing to do with the sun, it has to do with the formation of the earth, the different hemispheres. Trade winds exist because the Earth is (spoiler alert) round. Nothing to do with the sun.

Trade winds originate because of heating and cooling effects. Surface air flows toward heat and the flow aloft is toward the colder regions.  This could just as well agree with the FE models.

Trade winds on Earth's surface have nothing to do with the sun, it has to do with the formation of the earth, the different hemispheres. Trade winds exist because the Earth is (spoiler alert) round. Nothing to do with the sun.

Seriously, you clearly are not as smart as you think you are, and you are not helping the round earth position.  I think you should spend some time researching logical fallacies in order to keep yourself from using them so much.  Ms Peach does have you that solar heating certainly drives them, and you are right that trade winds, and jet streams for that matter, could only exist on a round earth.

Trade winds originate because of heating and cooling effects. Surface air flows toward heat and the flow aloft is toward the colder regions.  This could just as well agree with the FE models.

The point I am trying to make is that with the FE models, the current setup could not exist, and the atmosphere relating to the ITCZ, which is what I originally wanted to focus on, could not actually exist. Trade winds, however they are formed, exist and act the ways they d because of different hemispheres, which would not exist in a FE.

Why not?  We have two hemiplanes.

For starters, I am aware that I misspelled my user name. It should be "Meteorologist", as in a scientist of the weather and atmosphere, and I want you to explain something to me, something that disagrees completely with your theories. In fact, there are many factors of weather that disagree with your beliefs, but I want to focus on one at the moment.

It is called the ICTZ, or the "Intertropical Convergence Zone". It is a ring of tropical activity near the equator that encircles the entire Earth. The ICTZ is known for sending hurricanes our way from the coast of Africa, where tropical waves come from. The ICTZ is formed by opposing trade winds from the northern and southern hemispheres, something that would not exist in a flat earth.

Other minor tidbits: Objects tend to rotate to the right in the northern hemisphere, and rotate left in the southern hemisphere, explain that. When cold fronts (whose existence also contradicts a flat earth, explain that) affect an area, the wind shifts are opposite in different hemispheres.

And please do not say that I am lieing, or that my facts, research, calculations, and knowledge are part of the conspiracy, I have been studying meteorology for a looong time, I know what I am talking about, thank you very much. The question is, do you?

Surely you mean 'ITZ', Meterologist.

Why not?  We have two hemiplanes.

Please explain how the current trade wind setup could work on hemiplanes. The reasons trade winds act the way they do, and thus form the ITCZ is because of the spherical shape of the Earth.

Surely you mean 'ITZ', Meterologist.

No, its the ITCZ. Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone. ITCZ. I do see what you quoted me saying though. I just typed it fast, so one key clicked before the other, my bad.

My friend, even in Round Earth Theory the shape of the earth has nothing to do with the behavior of the trade winds.

My friend, even in Round Earth Theory the shape of the earth has nothing to do with the behavior of the trade winds.

How so?