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njcon

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Why?
« on: November 03, 2009, 01:45:49 PM »
I know I just made a thread but this is a much bigger question.

Why would scientists and astronauts and such need to lie about the world being round? What do they have to gain from this?
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Proleg

Re: Why?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 03:59:09 PM »
Money. Power. Influence. Et cetera.
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markjo

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Re: Why?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM »
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
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Thombaugh

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Re: Why?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 07:04:03 PM »
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.

Precisely.  Case in point: the current state of the United States banking system.  There's even an internal memo from 2005 that leaked between managers of Citigroup explicitly stating their design for a worldwide plutonomy.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6674234/Citigroup-Oct-16-2005-Plutonomy-Report-Part-1

Bankers in the United States are vastly wealthy, vastly greedy, vastly power and vastly influential; and even though their intentions are clearly out in the open no one with any capacity to change policy is doing anything to stop it and nothing has changed.

So how exactly is the global conspiracy to hide the 'truth' of flat Earth necessary?


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Proleg

Re: Why?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM »
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
Not on the same scale.
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Christianrocker90

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Re: Why?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 01:32:18 AM »
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
Not on the same scale.

I'm sure there is.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 03:48:48 AM »
Quote from: Proleg on November 03, 2009, 03:59:09 PM
Money. Power. Women. Et cetera.

Fixed, and:

Quote from: Christianrocker90 on November 04, 2009, 01:32:18 AM
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
Not on the same scale.

I'm sure there is.

Nope. NASA budget > limeade stand turnover.
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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Why?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 03:50:12 AM »
The point is, they have a way of doing it which they have yet to get caught for.
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markjo

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Re: Why?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 06:14:00 AM »
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
Not on the same scale.
I'm sure that DoD contractors, politicians and pharmaceutical companies would disagree.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Thombaugh

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Re: Why?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 07:41:30 AM »
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 03:50:12 AM
The point is, they have a way of doing it which they have yet to get caught for.

Right. ::)

And after 128+ years since the formation of the zetetic community, not a single person who holds those ideologies has been clever enough to figure out how the conspirators pull off everything they've done and expose them with proof.  That's a bummer, you should get on that.  If it can be built, it can be broken.
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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Why?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 07:47:20 AM »
Quote from: Thombaugh on November 04, 2009, 07:41:30 AM
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 03:50:12 AM
The point is, they have a way of doing it which they have yet to get caught for.

And after 128+ years since the formation of the zetetic community, not a single person who holds those ideologies has been clever enough to figure out how the conspirators pull off everything they've done and expose them with proof.


Yeah, that's an excellent point. Thanks for backing up my argument. Another victory for FE!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 07:53:40 AM »
So, the fact the seemingly, FE'ers are too stupid to actually figure it out, is a win for FE?

Whatever makes you happy i guess. Seems like a bit of a fail to me.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 08:54:36 AM »
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 07:47:20 AM
Quote from: Thombaugh on November 04, 2009, 07:41:30 AM
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 03:50:12 AM
The point is, they have a way of doing it which they have yet to get caught for.

And after 128+ years since the formation of the zetetic community, not a single person who holds those ideologies has been clever enough to figure out how the conspirators pull off everything they've done and expose them with proof.


Yeah, that's an excellent point. Thanks for backing up my argument. Another victory for FE!

And when the space hotel opens in 2012 and visitors start going up en masse providing first hand accounts of a spherical earth and sustained space flight with live videos to boot, I assume that will be further evidence of the masterminded conspiracy and a further victory for FE!?
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Re: Why?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 09:57:05 AM »
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 07:47:20 AM
Quote from: Thombaugh on November 04, 2009, 07:41:30 AM
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 03:50:12 AM
The point is, they have a way of doing it which they have yet to get caught for.

And after 128+ years since the formation of the zetetic community, not a single person who holds those ideologies has been clever enough to figure out how the conspirators pull off everything they've done and expose them with proof.


Yeah, that's an excellent point. Thanks for backing up my argument. Another victory for FE!

I don't know about that Wilmore.  FE'ers not being able to expose the truth of the conspiracy to the masses after all these years sounds like a pretty significant failure to me.  That is unless you guys are secretly rooting for the conspiracy.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Thombaugh

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Re: Why?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 09:59:14 AM »
Quote from: Lord Wilmore on November 04, 2009, 07:47:20 AM

Yeah, that's an excellent point. Thanks for backing up my argument. Another victory for FE!

I love how you just gave yourself a merit badge for being oblivious.  Well done.

They used to do stuff like that when I was in grade school.  They'd give 'effort' awards to the kids that came in last place at sporting events.  I think that suits you well.
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Proleg

Re: Why?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2009, 10:51:01 AM »
Quote from: markjo on November 04, 2009, 06:14:00 AM
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
Not on the same scale.
I'm sure that DoD contractors, politicians and pharmaceutical companies would disagree.
Name one that has such a complete stranglehold on knowledge and information as international globularism.
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markjo

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Re: Why?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2009, 03:04:44 PM »
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 10:51:01 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 04, 2009, 06:14:00 AM
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
There are far easier ways of gaining money, power and influence.
Not on the same scale.
I'm sure that DoD contractors, politicians and pharmaceutical companies would disagree.
Name one that has such a complete stranglehold on knowledge and information as international globularism.
The Pope.
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Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.
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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Why?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2009, 03:20:53 PM »
Quote from: markjo on November 04, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: Proleg on November 04, 2009, 10:51:01 AM
Name one that has such a complete stranglehold on knowledge and information as international globularism.
The Pope.


Let's see, one is a hugely profitable, centuries old scam, and the other is The Conspiracy.


Fair point markjo, another victory for FE!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2009, 05:03:53 AM »
How is him naming a scam a victory for FE?

Or do you guys just claim everything you can to be a victory nowadays?
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MikeVaughanG

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Re: Why?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 06:25:46 AM »
The thing about FET is that its more of a government conspiracy theory than it is scientific theory, and this is because there is an extreme LACK of scientific evidence, and  an overwhelming amount of RET evidence therefore, in order to make FET sound correct it has to be that thje government is lying to us about everything. For personal monetary gain.

Since logic doesn't apply, it has to be conspiracy.
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