Continental Drift

If the Earth was REALLY flat, then wouldn't the continents eventually crash through this so called "Ice Wall" and fall over the edge? Or is there a special team that uses pulleys to keep the together present?

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The argument will be,

Who's to say continental drift is not a conspiracy, just to make it seem like the earth's landmass is separating.

Circular reasoning cannot prove anything, but it can disprove everything.

Actually I think the argument would be: I guess continental drift is restricted to leaving the ice wall alone.

Also, um, circular reasoning is invalid, so it's just as incapable of refuting things as it is of proving them.

What is the ice wall :?

Continental drift doesn't happen nearly as much as people say it does. Sure, the continents wiggle around a little, but they don't split and float thousands of miles apart like the Conspiracy claims.

Now you are really ignoring enormous amounts of evidence. I mean, just look at the world map and see how wonderfully africa and south-america fit together. Not the best proof in the universe, but possible without getting out of your chair. If you would just look at the ages of the ocean floor on both sides of mid-oceanic ridges or cracks or whatever you call them in English (anyway, the thing in the middle of the ocean), the incredible similarity between some kinds of stone and mountain shapes on sides of continents that once had been together, fossile records that correspond with different climate zones in the past, and a whole lot more, anyone would come to the conclusion continental drift (and yes, thousands of miles) is a fact. Either that, or the conspiracy spent a whole lot of time shaping the continents, building mountains and putting fossils deep in the ground.

"South America and Africa's coasts were hammered down to their present states by the government to create this illusion."

Explain earthquakes, and fault lines. Everything proves that the world is round why do people have to be so stupid

That's one epic bump.

and.... Did it hurt?

It may have been a bump. But no one has an actual answer against it.

Don't bump 5 year old threads, especially ones which were answered in the third post of the very same thread.

Don't bump 5 year old threads, especially ones which were answered in the third post of the very same thread.

Who said there was an answer here? I don't see anything from the FE side.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 19, 2011, 08:28:51 PM

Don't bump 5 year old threads, especially ones which were answered in the third post of the very same thread.

Who said there was an answer here? I don't see anything from the FE side.

See the third post of the thread.

See the fifth post for an alternative model.

There were two answers for continental drift in this thread. There is no reason to bump a five year old thread, having been answered twice.

Now you are really ignoring enormous amounts of evidence. I mean, just look at the world map and see how wonderfully africa and south-america fit together. Not the best proof in the universe, but possible without getting out of your chair. If you would just look at the ages of the ocean floor on both sides of mid-oceanic ridges or cracks or whatever you call them in English (anyway, the thing in the middle of the ocean), the incredible similarity between some kinds of stone and mountain shapes on sides of continents that once had been together, fossile records that correspond with different climate zones in the past, and a whole lot more, anyone would come to the conclusion continental drift (and yes, thousands of miles) is a fact. Either that, or the conspiracy spent a whole lot of time shaping the continents, building mountains and putting fossils deep in the ground.

Ok so FE dosnt have an answer like normal. Good to know Tom.

Seriously any one could argue basically anything, and they can believe it truly, but if they ignore facts that go directly against their belief, it is a debate with a brick wall, an unintelligent wall too.

Thanks for your sharing. 

Quote from: Ralnir on July 16, 2006, 01:27:14 PM

Now you are really ignoring enormous amounts of evidence. I mean, just look at the world map and see how wonderfully africa and south-america fit together. Not the best proof in the universe, but possible without getting out of your chair. If you would just look at the ages of the ocean floor on both sides of mid-oceanic ridges or cracks or whatever you call them in English (anyway, the thing in the middle of the ocean), the incredible similarity between some kinds of stone and mountain shapes on sides of continents that once had been together, fossile records that correspond with different climate zones in the past, and a whole lot more, anyone would come to the conclusion continental drift (and yes, thousands of miles) is a fact. Either that, or the conspiracy spent a whole lot of time shaping the continents, building mountains and putting fossils deep in the ground.

Ok so FE dosnt have an answer like normal. Good to know Tom.

Again, read the third post of this thread for answers.

Why would it leave the  ice wall alone, well because its convenient for the FET. Tell me your logical reason besides "Read the third post"... Tom Bishop you are an idiot.

Why would it leave the  ice wall alone, well because its convenient for the FET. Tell me your logical reason besides "Read the third post"... Tom Bishop you are an idiot.

Everything above the earth moves in circles around the North Pole. It stands to reason that the plates on the surface would also move in circles around the North Pole.

As Erasmus answered in the third post, it is not necessary that continental drift, if it exists, should cause continents to intersect with the ice wall at any time.

What even if everything traveled in a circle, by centrifugal force everything would be pushed to the outward most edges therefor hitting this ice wall.

What even if everything traveled in a circle, by centrifugal force everything would be pushed to the outward most edges therefor hitting this ice wall.

There's not going to be much centrifugal force on a body moving 1-5 centimeters a year around a 24,900 mile equator.

Actually I think the argument would be: I guess continental drift is restricted to leaving the ice wall alone.

Also, um, circular reasoning is invalid, so it's just as incapable of refuting things as it is of proving them.

How in the hell is this an answer? "i guess it leaves the ice wall alone" you don't just get to add restrictions because you feel like it.

Even if there is only little centrifugal force, there is no way the continents are going to move upwards, and fight it. There would bound to be a continent that collided with this wall. This is so stupid. This is not your world so you can not create the rules of physics saying that it wont collide just cause....

Quote from: Help_me24 on July 20, 2011, 08:59:10 AM

Why would it leave the  ice wall alone, well because its convenient for the FET. Tell me your logical reason besides "Read the third post"... Tom Bishop you are an idiot.

Everything above the earth moves in circles around the North Pole. It stands to reason that the plates on the surface would also move in circles around the North Pole.

You still cannot prove that the north pole is the centre of the Earth so this answer you have given is useless to the questioner.  Please rephrase your answer with known facts.

Berny
One point that cannot be proven

Quote from: Erasmus on July 16, 2006, 08:39:05 AM

Actually I think the argument would be: I guess continental drift is restricted to leaving the ice wall alone.

Also, um, circular reasoning is invalid, so it's just as incapable of refuting things as it is of proving them.

How in the hell is this an answer? "i guess it leaves the ice wall alone" you don't just get to add restrictions because you feel like it.

"It leaves the Ice Wall alone" is a perfectly reasonable answer for why the continents don't run into the Ice Wall. There is no evidence of the continents running into the Ice Wall.

You could ask why continental drift leaves the sun alone. The answer is the same: Because that's the way things are.

Even if there is only little centrifugal force, there is no way the continents are going to move upwards, and fight it. There would bound to be a continent that collided with this wall. This is so stupid. This is not your world so you can not create the rules of physics saying that it wont collide just cause....

There is so little centrifugal force on a body moving 1-5 centimeters a year around a 24,900 mile equator that it is beyond negligible to the n^th degree. It does not require "new rules of physics" to say that. Look up any centrifugal force calculator.

Because that's the way things are.

Every time a RE'er says this, you say it is magic and automatically dismiss it as false.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 22, 2011, 04:30:54 PM

Because that's the way things are.

Every time a RE'er says this, you say it is magic and automatically dismiss it as false.

I don't dismiss the argument of "because that is what is observed". That is a valid argument.

I dismiss claims which have no observational or emperical evidence behind them. Ie: gravitons, bendy space.

Quote from: General Disarray on July 22, 2011, 05:41:18 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 22, 2011, 04:30:54 PM

Because that's the way things are.

Every time a RE'er says this, you say it is magic and automatically dismiss it as false.

I don't dismiss the argument of "because that is what is observed". That is a valid argument.

I dismiss claims which have no observational or emperical evidence behind them. Ie: gravitons, bendy space.

But you still believe bendy light, etc?

Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 23, 2011, 01:55:12 PM

Quote from: General Disarray on July 22, 2011, 05:41:18 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 22, 2011, 04:30:54 PM

Because that's the way things are.

Every time a RE'er says this, you say it is magic and automatically dismiss it as false.

I don't dismiss the argument of "because that is what is observed". That is a valid argument.

I dismiss claims which have no observational or emperical evidence behind them. Ie: gravitons, bendy space.

But you still believe bendy light, etc?

Tom doesn't believe bendy light.