You Don't Convince Me

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You Don't Convince Me
« on: September 08, 2009, 04:14:07 PM »
My Reasons:

1) One of your primary explanations is that it looks flat from a persons perspective.  Well of course it does, in most places, it isn't open enough to see the horizon, let alone the curvature of the earth.  The earth is big, it's not gonna be like standing on the surface of a football (or soccer ball for my American friends here).  It holds about as much weight as me saying, I look at a perspex box full of air, I see nothing in it, therefore there can't be anything in air, which we clearly know is not the case.

2) You all seem to say, whenever confronted with evidence that the earth is round, that you don't take it for evidence such as pictures or videos or in the case of actual experiments you say they have probably been faked.  Personally I find the most annoying response when provided with a specific piece of information is for a FE'er to flat out say, "You're wrong" or "I don't believe you".  If you take this point of view then you are completely blocking out the possibility that you are wrong and therefore there is no point in even debating with any of you.

3) All of you experimental "proof" seems to originate from just one man, Samuel Rowbotham, a scientist from the 1800s who is known for little more than his experiments which "proved" the earth to be flat.  There are however far more scientists, more respected scientists, who have evidence to prove that the earth is round.  There have also been others who have tested Rowbotham's experiments and while in early years they sometime yielded similar results to Rowbotham, as time and the quality/accuracy of apparatus increased, the result of a round earth became far more common in the evidence.  However if FE'ers just say "Oh the scientists who find the earth to round through these experiments must be part of the conspiracy", then what's the point in even having a discussion with you as you all seem far too stubborn and narrow minded to even let this idea enter the realms of possibility.

4) My fourth reason for not being convinced is the "conspiracy" which must be happening for a flat earth to be the case.  So many people have to be involved in it that keeping it a secret would be a huge ask, if not impossible.  Also the idea of men guarding the ice wall on snow mobiles with apache helicopters to fight off intruders seems too far fetched for me.

5) My final reason is the theory of dark energy as it has far too many holes in it as far as I can see.  Surely if the atmosphere covers the earth, then it effectively acts as a windshield, thus trapping any air.  Surely this means that when the "dark energy" which creates the upward force, causing the earth will move at a certain speed, but so will the air in the atmosphere, much like the air in a car, therefore a downward force which mimics gravity would not be felt.  The only other explanation would that dark energy causes the earth to accelerate, which I would agree would create a force similar to gravity, however, due to the life of the earth, I find this very hard to believe that it has been accelerating all this time, as if this were the case, surely it would have reached the speed of light which is impossible due to its mass.

It's all of these reasons which have led me to reach a pretty certain conclusion that the world is indeed round.  It was interesting talking about the different theories though, it's just a shame some people can't seem to keep a proper discussion/debate going.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 04:21:13 PM »
It really is a shame when people just go "You're wrong" and never admit that they might just be the wrong ones.

I wouldn't single out FE'ers, though.  There are equal amounts of ignorance in both groups.  ^^;
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Areweonfiya

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 04:23:11 PM »
I don't think this website has really convinced anyone. Those who claim they have are probably just trolls or they were here when the website was made. All in all maybe 10 people max.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 04:58:45 PM »
No one cares whether you're convinced or not.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 07:51:07 PM »
Which ultimately destroys any value of this website.

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Roundy the Truthinessist

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 08:23:54 PM »
Which ultimately destroys any value of this website.

Why?  ???
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 08:27:26 PM »
No one cares whether you're convinced or not.
If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 10:45:54 PM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything? Unless one of our more erratically minded members has finally blown his cork, gone and tied you up and forced you to register for an account and post here, you've come here of your own free will. In actuality, since you're the one who has come to this website with an alternative opinion, you should be the one trying to convince us that the Earth is not flat.
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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 10:46:52 PM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything? Unless one of our more erratically minded members has finally blown his cork, gone and tied you up and forced you to register for an account and post here, you've come here of your own free will. In actuality, since you're the one who has come to this website with an alternative opinion, you should be the one trying to convince us that the Earth is not flat.

Well said, brother!
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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 10:47:36 PM »
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nickyp_uk

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2009, 12:44:49 AM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything? Unless one of our more erratically minded members has finally blown his cork, gone and tied you up and forced you to register for an account and post here, you've come here of your own free will. In actuality, since you're the one who has come to this website with an alternative opinion, you should be the one trying to convince us that the Earth is not flat.

Well I would but you are the guys are the ones who take one guy's experiments from the 1800s which have already been proved to be miscalculated and base your whole theories on that despite the fact so many more recognizable scientists have provided scientific proof for a round earth.  Don't you think that says something?

You also base your argument on the fact that it looks flat from a persons perspective which is quite frankly a retarded argument.  And don't even get me started on the conspiracy.  Its too far fetched to even begin thinking about.

No one cares whether you're convinced or not.

Once again, thanks for proving me right that when one of you guys is backed into a corner and has no answer, you just resort to verbal attacks.  You lot are all just so unbelievably stubborn and for some reason must get some kick out of trying to tell people the world is flat.  From where I'm sitting it looks very much like cult.  Either that or your lives are so unbeleivably boring that you decide to come on here and insult (I know that's what I'm doing now, but I've had enough reasoning with you) anyone who doesn't believe in your stupid and let's face it, completely unrealistic theories.

Which ultimately destroys any value of this website.


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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2009, 12:52:56 AM »
Yet no one to my knowledge has disproved FET?
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nickyp_uk

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2009, 12:57:10 AM »
No one to my knowledge has disproved RET either, and it has in fact been proved, although you guys think this has been faked right?

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2009, 02:17:47 AM »
Well I would but you are the guys are the ones who take one guy's experiments from the 1800s which have already been proved to be miscalculated and base your whole theories on that despite the fact so many more recognizable scientists have provided scientific proof for a round earth.  Don't you think that says something?

You also base your argument on the fact that it looks flat from a persons perspective which is quite frankly a retarded argument.  And don't even get me started on the conspiracy.  Its too far fetched to even begin thinking about.

If it bothers you that much, you're free to leave at any time.
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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2009, 07:42:47 AM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything?

I see the whole point of this site is not to try and convince people that the earth is flat.

It has achieved it's objective.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2009, 07:49:20 AM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything?

I see the whole point of this site is not to try and convince people that the earth is flat.

It has achieved it's objective.

Unnecessary apostrophe. Ouch. Way to lay down the punch, Duke Felchface.
If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.

Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2009, 07:54:25 AM »
i dont understand why you guys are telling nicky that she is trying to convince people, all she was doing was posting her views on here, and it says on the site that you are welcome to sceptics. so if your not prepared to listen to other views then why are you on here?
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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2009, 07:55:39 AM »
why are you on here?

Because I love truth, and the truth is that the earth is flat. If other people's brainwashing prevents them from seeing the truth, then that's not my problem, although I guess they themselves really can't be blamed... it's not their fault either.
If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.

Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2009, 07:55:51 AM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything?

I see the whole point of this site is not to try and convince people that the earth is flat.

It has achieved it's objective.

Unnecessary apostrophe. Ouch. Way to lay down the punch, Duke Felchface.

Unecessary perhaps.

Like going into a war with to many bullets, you can never have to many apostrophe's.

Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2009, 08:00:57 AM »
why are you on here?

Because I love truth, and the truth is that the earth is flat. If other people's brainwashing prevents them from seeing the truth, then that's not my problem, although I guess they themselves really can't be blamed... it's not their fault either.

but you dont know the truth. have you ever been out yourself and seen that the world is flat? no you havent. all your beliefs are placed on what you have been told by someone else. now you must be thinking that i have never been out and seen the is round, the answer to that is i dont have to, all i need to do is go and stand on a long straight world and i will be able to see the curvature of  the earth. oh look, i just disproved the whole FES and i dint even leave my pc :D

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2009, 08:02:29 AM »
Who's trying to convince you of anything?

I see the whole point of this site is not to try and convince people that the earth is flat.

It has achieved it's objective.

Unnecessary apostrophe. Ouch. Way to lay down the punch, Duke Felchface.

Unecessary perhaps.

Like going into a war with to many bullets, you can never have to many apostrophe's.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2009, 08:03:02 AM »
i dint even leave my pc :D

But I sure wish you would.
If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.

Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2009, 08:04:10 AM »
i dint even leave my pc :D

But I sure wish you would.
exactly, because you know im right and you having nothing to back your theories with

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2009, 08:14:12 AM »
....have you ever been out yourself and seen that the world is flat?....

Yes. Five minutes ago.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2009, 08:17:44 AM »
....have you ever been out yourself and seen that the world is flat?....

Yes. Five minutes ago.
well why dont you try going somewhere other than outside your house. ofcourse the world will look flat from there because you cant see far enough to see the curvature. duh

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2009, 08:26:13 AM »
So you're saying the earth is flat in some places (my yard) and curved in other places?

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2009, 08:29:31 AM »
Im saying astonaughts, they have seen it took pics etc, explain that.

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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2009, 08:35:33 AM »
They haven't taken pictures. They've created pictures.
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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2009, 08:36:06 AM »
Im saying astonaughts, they have seen it took pics etc, explain that.

Yes, I've heard that astronauts say these kinds of things.  
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Re: You Don't Convince Me
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2009, 08:40:49 AM »
how can u create the earth round? if u think of it logically for a sec, one, the people who have sailed around the world, they went around, now if it is flat that would be impossable. and the world being round gives us one big thing, atmosphere, that u know gives us oxygen, which means if the world was flat we wouldnt get much and die quicker, also if it was flat, there would be no hills, mountains, basically all flat,