Observing the ISS

A few weeks ago I woke up early in the morning to watch the International Space Station pass over my city. The ISS is one of the brightest objects in space. So could someone please tell me what I saw?

Quote from: caelan96 on August 17, 2009, 04:31:00 PM

A few weeks ago I woke up early in the morning to watch the International Space Station pass over my city. The ISS is one of the brightest objects in space. So could someone please tell me what I saw?

Really?!? You saw that really bright white light moving across the sky too?!?  OMG I so totally knew it was the ISS and couldn't possibly be anything else.  I mean just look at it!  IT'S A BIG BRIGHT WHITE LIGHT!!!


Epic fail dude.  Try again.

Quote from: caelan96 on August 17, 2009, 04:31:00 PM

A few weeks ago I woke up early in the morning to watch the International Space Station pass over my city. The ISS is one of the brightest objects in space. So could someone please tell me what I saw?

Really?!? You saw that really bright white light moving across the sky too?!?  OMG I so totally knew it was the ISS and couldn't possibly be anything else.  I mean just look at it!  IT'S A BIG BRIGHT WHITE LIGHT!!!


Epic fail dude.  Try again.

*sarcastic tone* I'm serious! There was this other light next to it, I didn't know what it was so it must have been a cheeseball!!!!! I did bother to research orbital paths first you moron. I don't just pretend I know what I see in the sky. Not like UFO nutters.

What is it my friend?

So could someone please tell me what I saw?

Wardogg, do you have anything useful to contribute?

If not, why don't you stop spamming.

Instead of talking p*sh and trying to ridicule the Author, why don't you put forward a suggestion as to what he may have seen?

Because you have no idea? Thought so.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on August 18, 2009, 09:08:44 AM

Quote from: d00gz on August 18, 2009, 02:12:12 AM

Wardogg, do you have anything useful to contribute?

If not, why don't you stop spamming.

Instead of talking p*sh and trying to ridicule the Author, why don't you put forward a suggestion as to what he may have seen?

Because you have no idea? Thought so.

Stratellite.

If this has been discussed before then you'll know that a stratellite can't go at that speed and that altitude.

Epic fail dude.  Try again.

Last Wednesday, I decided to track the path of the space station. As luck would have it, it would make a visible path over my location that evening. Sure enough, at 9:35 p.m., it appeared at an azimuth of 300 degrees, streaked southward across the sky, rose to an elevation of 22 degrees as I looked west, before finally disappearing below the horizon a little east of due south at an azimuth of 160 degrees. It set nine minutes after it rose. Could I see people inside or indeed the shuttle next to it? Of course not. It looked like a very bright, fast-moving star. So, what did I see, if not the space station?

One other mentioned it here already, but let me reinforce.

If you get even just a nice set of binoculars, steady your arms on a tree or car or something....and track ISS as it goes over you can quite clearly pick out the shape of it, especially now that it has all of it's solar arrays on it.

Try it sometime, I have many times.  Even better yet, if you are lucky enough to have the ISS going over your area, right before or right after the shuttle docks to ISS, you will see both going across the sky one after the other.  Also in this case if you have decent binoculars and a steady hand you can also pick out the distinct shape of the shuttle as well.

This little item seems to be a very tough one for these either nuts or assholes to explain away.  You all are nuts if you actually believe all of this BS you are spewing out, nuts and delusional.  Assholes full of hate in your hearts, if you all created this site to just fuck with weak minded people, and get reactions from intelligent people.

Also like you to explain how when I was a kid I went to the Naval Observatory in DC, looked through the telescope there and saw a clear shot of a man made car sitting on the surface of the moon.  Oh wait....I already know the nut job answer there was some picture just pasted to then end of the telescope or they gave me LSD before I went in, somehow without me knowing.

Also can't explain the light the sun creates at dawn and at sunset.  The graduation of different colors from the horizon to the other horizon, is smooth and steady.  That means at least the atmosphere has to be curved in some way.  Are you saying it's in the form of a dome over us?  Cause I thought most have said it's also a flat layer...what is is 3K thick or something?  Uniform all the way from the center to the edge in your theory right?  If so....how do you get graduated colors?

Be interesting to see what the nuts say about this one....and you all are nuts you know that right?  Like you should be round up and throw in padded cells nuts.  Or assholes that should be rounded up and thrown in jail....What a sad sad life....I do kind of feel bad for you all.....kinda.

Stratellite.

Quote from: bobofett on September 06, 2009, 02:44:11 PM

One other mentioned it here already, but let me reinforce.

If you get even just a nice set of binoculars, steady your arms on a tree or car or something....and track ISS as it goes over you can quite clearly pick out the shape of it, especially now that it has all of it's solar arrays on it.

Try it sometime, I have many times.  Even better yet, if you are lucky enough to have the ISS going over your area, right before or right after the shuttle docks to ISS, you will see both going across the sky one after the other.  Also in this case if you have decent binoculars and a steady hand you can also pick out the distinct shape of the shuttle as well.

This little item seems to be a very tough one for these either nuts or assholes to explain away.  You all are nuts if you actually believe all of this BS you are spewing out, nuts and delusional.  Assholes full of hate in your hearts, if you all created this site to just fuck with weak minded people, and get reactions from intelligent people.

Also like you to explain how when I was a kid I went to the Naval Observatory in DC, looked through the telescope there and saw a clear shot of a man made car sitting on the surface of the moon.  Oh wait....I already know the nut job answer there was some picture just pasted to then end of the telescope or they gave me LSD before I went in, somehow without me knowing.

Also can't explain the light the sun creates at dawn and at sunset.  The graduation of different colors from the horizon to the other horizon, is smooth and steady.  That means at least the atmosphere has to be curved in some way.  Are you saying it's in the form of a dome over us?  Cause I thought most have said it's also a flat layer...what is is 3K thick or something?  Uniform all the way from the center to the edge in your theory right?  If so....how do you get graduated colors?

Be interesting to see what the nuts say about this one....and you all are nuts you know that right?  Like you should be round up and throw in padded cells nuts.  Or assholes that should be rounded up and thrown in jail....What a sad sad life....I do kind of feel bad for you all.....kinda.

You seem to be obsessed with "nuts". Do you like nuts? Did you have some childhood trauma involving nuts?
A lot of that was unrelated and tl;dr.
Also,

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on August 18, 2009, 09:08:44 AM

Stratellite.

HA!  Well predicted that answer...none at all. Just insults for people that push these freaks in a corner.  Just like these angry republican insurance company shills showing up at Town Hall meetings spouting a bunch of nonsense fed to them by Insurance companies that only have one interest in mind....money.
Your opinion on health care is in no way relevant to this discussion. Please try and stay on topic.
So you have no real answer....therefore...your FE theory is busted...it's crap...and you all have been wasting your time, your lives, and Internet bandwidth with all this drivel.
Congratulations, I guess you beat the FES. I guess the only thing left to do is close the browser, eh?
So I now know most of you don't really believe any of this...but you all are just a bunch of assholes that get off on fucking with people on the Internet.  Because you have no lives, and were not loved.  So sorry for you all.  Maybe someday some of you will see the light...see the error in your ways...and help the others along.  Help them move on to more productive things in life.  Maybe taking all this time an energy to do something to actually help people.
That's not funny. I was horrifically abused as a child, and have been in and out of foster care since I was 9.
As for your blimp there man...just look at the ISS it looks nothing like that.  Also wouldn't explain the speed at which it moves across the sky.  If something of that size that you posted were moving across the sky that fast...it would have to be so close to me that I could easily pick out the shape with my naked eye...like a plane.  These things you posted will not be moving that fast at those altitudes....not 17.5K miles per hour for sure!
...What? Are you saying things move faster as they get closer to the Earth?

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Your opinion on health care is in no way relevant to this discussion. Please try and stay on topic.

It's called an example to prove a point.  Lawyers use the tactic all the time, and it's perfectly acceptable.  Only people who are threated by the message tend to have a problem with that.


Congratulations, I guess you beat the FES. I guess the only thing left to do is close the browser, eh?

You would love that wouldn't you?  Can't have any intelligent people here speaking the truth...Don't want to bring down your little house of cards. 


That's not funny. I was horrifically abused as a child, and have been in and out of foster care since I was 9.

I'm sorry to hear that man.  Really I am.  But that does kind of prove my point...thanks.

...What? Are you saying things move faster as they get closer to the Earth?

No not at all, maybe you need to take some reading comprehension classes?

ISS moves across a large portion of the sky in just a matter of 2-5 minutes.  For the blimp to be far enough away for me to not be able to pick out the shape with my naked eye means it would have to be moving at tremendous speed at stratospheric heights...and plus we are only talking about 20 miles or so.  Depending on it's size I would be able with my eyes to resolve at least the rough shape of it.  Which is very different from the 4 large winged structure of ISS.  Plus the wiki for your blimp. 1. talks about how the they are not even sure if the thing will work, has not been completed yet, and it will communicate with low earth orbit sats.....explain that....hummm you can.

Give it up guys.  Really. Put all this energy into something useful.

It's called an example to prove a point.  Lawyers use the tactic all the time, and it's perfectly acceptable.  Only people who are threated by the message tend to have a problem with that.

You would love that wouldn't you?  Can't have any intelligent people here speaking the truth...Don't want to bring down your little house of cards.

I'm sorry to hear that man.  Really I am.  But that does kind of prove my point...thanks.

ISS moves across a large portion of the sky in just a matter of 2-5 minutes.  For the blimp to be far enough away for me to not be able to pick out the shape with my naked eye means it would have to be moving at tremendous speed at stratospheric heights...and plus we are only talking about 20 miles or so.  Depending on it's size I would be able with my eyes to resolve at least the rough shape of it.  Which is very different from the 4 large winged structure of ISS.  Plus the wiki for your blimp. 1. talks about how the they are not even sure if the thing will work, has not been completed yet, and it will communicate with low earth orbit sats.....explain that....hummm you can.

this is fun to read, even with the cheap shots at republicans to prove a point ....

1.  The shape of ISS that I can see with my own eyes.
2.  The shape of the Shuttle which I can also see myself.
So? An advanced stratolite (NASA has the money to make them) could easily appear to look like the "ISS"
3.  The fact that your blimp has not been created yet, and the wiki talks about how most say it may not even float.
NASA easily has the money to create a stratolite, and the motive to hide it's existence.
4.  Human vision has an infinite resolution.  If it's in our line of sight and either big enough or light brightly enough we can see it.
...Sorry, the human eye does not have "infinite resolution". Try again.
5.  I could certainly discern the shape of something that is only 20-30 miles away with binoculars, because I know I can discern the shape of something that is 200 miles away.
See the first answer.

Quote from: bobofett on September 06, 2009, 04:40:30 PM

1.  The shape of ISS that I can see with my own eyes.
2.  The shape of the Shuttle which I can also see myself.
So? An advanced stratolite (NASA has the money to make them) could easily appear to look like the "ISS"
3.  The fact that your blimp has not been created yet, and the wiki talks about how most say it may not even float.
NASA easily has the money to create a stratolite, and the motive to hide it's existence.
4.  Human vision has an infinite resolution.  If it's in our line of sight and either big enough or light brightly enough we can see it.
...Sorry, the human eye does not have "infinite resolution". Try again.
5.  I could certainly discern the shape of something that is only 20-30 miles away with binoculars, because I know I can discern the shape of something that is 200 miles away.
See the first answer.

Backed into a corner and just making stuff up now.  Give me evidence that the things you have said are true and we can tall.  I've given you a piece of empirical evidence which you and everyone can test themselves.  With their own eyes, none of you have provided any such evidence yet.  So you have no feet to stand on.

Quote from: bobofett on September 06, 2009, 04:50:38 PM

Backed into a corner and just making stuff up now.  Give me evidence that the things you have said are true and we can tall.  I've given you a piece of empirical evidence which you and everyone can test themselves.  With their own eyes, none of you have provided any such evidence yet.  So you have no feet to stand on.

Unable to prove me wrong, so you begin to accuse me of lying. That is an obvious sign of a poor debater.

Unable to prove me wrong, so you begin to accuse me of lying. That is an obvious sign of a poor debater.