Did i just lose 20 IQ points...?

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If the earth was flat, why haven't our oceans drained away to nothing?
There is a vast ice wall that keeps the water where it is. The ice wall is roughly 150ft high. This also explains why you can find a vast plane of ice when you travel south. Antarctica as a continent does not exist.
Why is the earth flat and not the sun? Or the Moon? Or anything else in the universe? Oh wait, am I wrong? Is everything in the universe flat?
This argument is a non-sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more.
Are any of the flat earthers here a Young Earth creationist? Or a believer of the earth centered universe theory?
No, most FE'ers are atheist.
I am dead certain that there are hundreds of pilots that have flown around the planet earth, showing that it is round. This obviously contradicts the flat earth theory. How do you explain this? (Or is it because the government is paying the pilots to shut up about the flat earth, and make detours here and there?)
Circumnavigation is still possible on a flat earth.
How can you believe that the earth is round? How can anyone? How can anyone fake a round earth? The Greeks first discovered that the earth was round. How in god?s name can the government fake a round earth for 4000 freaking years?!??! Or was the Greeks paid in cash to shut up about it as well?
Lurk moar, it's been shown that faking a round earth would not be nearly as difficult as it sounds.
Do you believe in the theory of gravity? Of course you don?t need to?
Gravity - No          Gravitation - Debated
Why would anyone fake a round earth? What purpose does it have?
Space agencies have huge budgets. They spend a fraction to fake a round earth, and pocket the rest.
I?ve heard that the people here claim that we never went to the moon as well. WTF?
Yes, we've never been to the moon.
If the earth was flat, why don?t we have any photo or video graphic evidence to support it? (Why do I even bother asking?? Obviously the evidence was faked!)
You want to see a flat earth? Look out your window.
If the earth was flat, how do you explain earthquakes? Tsunamis? Volcanoes?
Same as a round earth.
The flat earth theory requires a whole new set of laws of physics. I don?t see any. Because the round earth set of laws cannot apply to a flat earth.
False. The same laws of physics apply the vast majority of the time.
What will make you believe that the earth was round? Does NASA have to strap you to the back of a rocket and shoot you into space? Having you orbit the planet?
Nothing would make me believe lies.

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I have read some of the answers that the flat earthers have given to other "Non-believers" and i'm quite appalled by the... How should i put this nicely... the incrediable amount of ignorance in the posts!
You misspelled incredible.
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Why are the apostrophes turning up as question marks?
SMF (The forum software) does not recognize them.

Why is the earth flat and not the sun? Or the Moon? Or anything else in the universe? Oh wait, am I wrong? Is everything in the universe flat?
This argument is a non-sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more.

If the earth was flat, how do you explain earthquakes? Tsunamis? Volcanoes?
Same as a round earth.

The flat earth theory requires a whole new set of laws of physics. I don?t see any. Because the round earth set of laws cannot apply to a flat earth.
False. The same laws of physics apply the vast majority of the time.

If the earth was flat, why haven't our oceans drained away to nothing?
There is a vast ice wall that keeps the water where it is. The ice wall is roughly 150ft high. This also explains why you can find a vast plane of ice when you travel south. Antarctica as a continent does not exist.

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Why is the earth flat and not the sun? Or the Moon? Or anything else in the universe? Oh wait, am I wrong? Is everything in the universe flat?
This argument is a non-sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more.

Mars is a planet, as well as Earth. What law of physics make the earth different from the rest?

By the way, if you believe in evolution, you would know that snakes used to have legs. They still have the pelvic bones that conect them.
The Earth is not a planet.

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If the earth was flat, how do you explain earthquakes? Tsunamis? Volcanoes?
Same as a round earth.

The flat earth theory requires a whole new set of laws of physics. I don?t see any. Because the round earth set of laws cannot apply to a flat earth.
False. The same laws of physics apply the vast majority of the time.

If the earth was flat, we wouldn't have a magnetic feild, or auroras.
Yes we would, search and you will find this has been discussed numerous times.

Wouldn't the ice wall melt away? WHERE DID IT COME FROM! and HOW was it made! We don't have the technology to make a 150 foot wall of ice while millions of tons of water are rushing at the work site!(You are not answering my questions fully!)

Clearly you haven't heard of global warming or natural erosion...

Clearly you haven't heard of global warming or natural erosion...

Quote from: Flat earthers r stupid on August 08, 2009, 02:34:42 PM

Clearly you haven't heard of global warming or natural erosion...

You're unaware that mountains can grow as well as erode?   

Quote from: Flat earthers r stupid on August 08, 2009, 01:45:37 PM

Wouldn't the ice wall melt away? WHERE DID IT COME FROM! and HOW was it made! We don't have the technology to make a 150 foot wall of ice while millions of tons of water are rushing at the work site!(You are not answering my questions fully!)

Why would the ice melt? It would obviously be cold enough in those regions to keep the ice frozen. After all, that's exactly what happens in RET in Antarctica and the Arctic.

the moon orbits in such a way that it's gravity would pull the oceans either out toward the wall of ice at all times

Please read the FAQ. The moment you said

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 05:17:12 PM

the moon orbits in such a way that it's gravity would pull the oceans either out toward the wall of ice at all times

you proved that you haven't.

Well, they say it's bliss.

The belief that the Earth is on the back of 4 elephants which are themselves on the back of a turtle is one held largely by some Hindus. I don't think anyone here believes that.

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on August 09, 2009, 06:22:28 PM

The belief that the Earth is on the back of 4 elephants which are themselves on the back of a turtle is one held largely by some Hindus. I don't think anyone here believes that.

But you can't disprove it, so it must be true.

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 06:27:19 PM

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on August 09, 2009, 06:22:28 PM

The belief that the Earth is on the back of 4 elephants which are themselves on the back of a turtle is one held largely by some Hindus. I don't think anyone here believes that.

But you can't disprove it, so it must be true.

Or you could stop being a dipshit.

Quote from: taters343 on August 09, 2009, 06:31:00 PM

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 06:27:19 PM

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on August 09, 2009, 06:22:28 PM

The belief that the Earth is on the back of 4 elephants which are themselves on the back of a turtle is one held largely by some Hindus. I don't think anyone here believes that.

But you can't disprove it, so it must be true.

Or you could stop being a dipshit.

Funny, seeing as this logic is used by a vast majority of FE believers, I thought I would have been lauded a genius beyond my time.
Thanks for your positive feedback though.

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 06:35:22 PM

Quote from: taters343 on August 09, 2009, 06:31:00 PM

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 06:27:19 PM

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on August 09, 2009, 06:22:28 PM

The belief that the Earth is on the back of 4 elephants which are themselves on the back of a turtle is one held largely by some Hindus. I don't think anyone here believes that.

But you can't disprove it, so it must be true.

Or you could stop being a dipshit.

Funny, seeing as this logic is used by a vast majority of FE believers, I thought I would have been lauded a genius beyond my time.
Thanks for your positive feedback though.

In all my time at this forum I've not once seen this type of "logic" used by FEers unless they were trolling the completely incompetent and close minded noobs. Try again.

Quote from: taters343 on August 09, 2009, 06:31:00 PM

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 06:27:19 PM

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on August 09, 2009, 06:22:28 PM

The belief that the Earth is on the back of 4 elephants which are themselves on the back of a turtle is one held largely by some Hindus. I don't think anyone here believes that.

But you can't disprove it, so it must be true.

Or you could stop being a dipshit.

Funny, seeing as this logic is used by a vast majority of FE believers, I thought I would have been lauded a genius beyond my time.
Thanks for your positive feedback though.

Oh my God, please read the FAQ! From your questions it is clear that you haven't even looked at an FE map! Unbefreakinglievable.

Quote from: W on August 09, 2009, 07:49:47 PM

Oh my God, please read the FAQ! From your questions it is clear that you haven't even looked at an FE map! Unbefreakinglievable.

I read it, and couldn't stop laughing. It's full of so much speculation and psuedo-science that would have been mocked by phrenologists in the 19th century. If anything, ANYTHING in that faq was remotely true, none of the laws applied to electricity and magnetism would work, which they do, so guess what, you're most likely very, very wrong. I will keep an open mind in the sense of "anything is possible", but in the face of so much empirical evidence to the contrary, it's nigh impossible for any of those so called "hypotheses" to be even remotely true. One can "say" anything is truth, but fact is supposed to be proven with repeatable experimentation, at least that's what the rest of us think.

I hope more and more that this is a gag site, and yet, I must continue to do my mission work in this barren wasteland of the mind.

Cheers. 

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 09, 2009, 09:44:21 PM

Quote from: W on August 09, 2009, 07:49:47 PM

Oh my God, please read the FAQ! From your questions it is clear that you haven't even looked at an FE map! Unbefreakinglievable.

I read it, and couldn't stop laughing. It's full of so much speculation and psuedo-science that would have been mocked by phrenologists in the 19th century. If anything, ANYTHING in that faq was remotely true, none of the laws applied to electricity and magnetism would work, which they do, so guess what, you're most likely very, very wrong. I will keep an open mind in the sense of "anything is possible", but in the face of so much empirical evidence to the contrary, it's nigh impossible for any of those so called "hypotheses" to be even remotely true. One can "say" anything is truth, but fact is supposed to be proven with repeatable experimentation, at least that's what the rest of us think.

I hope more and more that this is a gag site, and yet, I must continue to do my mission work in this barren wasteland of the mind.

Cheers. 

No no no, he said read the FAQ, not make up a bunch of shit. I see how you could have gotten confused, but you should really work on your reading comprehension.

There's a reason Philosophy is a humanities/social science degree and not a hard baccalaureate degree like chemistry or physics.

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 10, 2009, 04:59:14 PM

There's a reason Philosophy is a humanities/social science degree and not a hard baccalaureate degree like chemistry or physics.

Please, leave your disciplinary bias out of this. Science and Philosophy go hand in hand; neither is 'harder' or firmer than the other.

Philosophy is an understanding of man and oneself

Quote from: Galileo26 on August 10, 2009, 05:21:21 PM

Philosophy is an understanding of man and oneself

First of all, that is an extremely limited definition of philosophy. Secondly, the problem is that many people have come to regard the words 'science' and 'truth' as interchangeable. They are not, as has been shown many times. The whole point of Zeteticism is that it challenges the underlying philosophy of the scientific method. A methodology is only as strong as the reasoning behind it.