Disproving the Flat Earth Theorists

To all you people who think you live on a flat earth. (Not many I might add, and for good reason.)
Disprove me please...



You dont believe in Gravity on spherical Planet, you believe in a constant upward acceleration of a  bunch of Discs or whatever, or do you believe that only the earth is a Disc and everything else is round. I don't know I can't really remember. Regardless...

If what I said thusfar is true, answer me this:

- Why is it when a feather is dropped it reaches the ground at a slower rate than say a rock? (If we're moving with a constant upward acceleration everything should hit the ground at the same time if dropped from the same height if Gravity does not apply.)

- How do Scales work? if there is no such thing as Gravity, then there is no such thing as weight.

- How do compasses work if there is only a north pole?

(Now I'm sure you're going to say the second to are just some sort of Conspiracy. If so, disregard them, otherwize I would love to know.)



And please for God Sake stop calling this thing you believe in a Planet!

Here is the word "Planet" by definition.

A celestial body that orbits the sun, has sufficient mass to assume nearly a spherical shape, clears out dust and debris from the neighborhood around its orbit, and is not a satellite of another planet.

1: You dont believe it orbits anything, you can't even give a reasonable explanation for the sun except that it's some kind of spotlight above us moving around to light up different parts of the Disc.

2: You don't believe it's of sphereical or even nearly sphereical shape.



Oh, and last but not least. Where do you get all this ideology from, what evidence do you have to back up your supposed thoeries? Have you ever even presented a Round Earth believer with an experiment that gives some sort of proof as to a Flat Earth? To be quite frank, I'm astounded that you can actually believe this. I mean "The Ice Wall"? No offence but it's sounds little kiddish, maybe something you could find in a science fiction novel. It's like thinking you'll go down the drain after your mother emptys the bath water when you were a just a boy. I'd believe Elvis is still alive over this Malarchy, come on it's nonsence...

This is a good post, unfortunately, its looking for logic or reasoning based on solid, scientific evidence obtained from using the scientific method. Such methods have not been, and are not used to develop flat earth theories.

This is a good post, unfortunately, its looking for logic or reasoning based on solid, scientific evidence obtained from using the scientific method. Such methods have not been, and are not used to develop flat earth theories.

Sadly, yet they still continue to believe it.

- Why is it when a feather is dropped it reaches the ground at a slower rate than say a rock? (If we're moving with a constant upward acceleration everything should hit the ground at the same time if dropped from the same height if Gravity does not apply.)

- How do Scales work? if there is no such thing as Gravity, then there is no such thing as weight.

Equivalence Principle.

- How do compasses work if there is only a north pole?

There are two poles.

And please for God Sake stop calling this thing you believe in a Planet!

We don't.  Lurk moar.

Equivalence Principle.

Laments Terms please.

There are two poles.

Where is the second?

We don't.  Lurk moar.

I've seen dozens of post's calling you're disc a Planet. I have absolutely no idea what "Lurk moar" Mean's I'm not a forum jockey, I'm an American.

I want to turn the tv on one day and they announce on the news 'Yes um, if you're just joining us, turns out the world is flat'. 

Where do these people come from?? I'm more likely to believe people who say they have been taken up in spaceships by aliens.  I just don't understand how a few flimsy arguments they probably read on this website when they were 22 could possible overthrow so easily what they naturally believed their whole lives so far. There isn't any evidence whatsover, all you could see with the naked eye is apparently no arch on the horizon... in which case you need to listen to scientists who are far smarter than anyone on this forum and could easily in lamens terms explain this phenonema and disprove all FE theories for them.

- Why is it when a feather is dropped it reaches the ground at a slower rate than say a rock? (If we're moving with a constant upward acceleration everything should hit the ground at the same time if dropped from the same height if Gravity does not apply.)

- How do Scales work? if there is no such thing as Gravity, then there is no such thing as weight.

Not that I'm a FEer, but both of the points you raise here are wrong.

With regard to the feather/rock situation, the feather obviously falls slower because the air is slowing it down. In FET the flat earth is accelerating upwards at one gee (we will ignore the inherent ridiculousness of this for now) so anything you "drop" actually stays still and the earth catches it up. As you are also moving upwards with the earth, from your frame of reference the objects appear to be falling. Exactly the same as if you tried the same experiment in space in a rocket accelerating at one gee.

And this is also why scales would also work on a FE. Or in a rocket pulling one gee.

Of course, you have a very good point about the magentic poles....just where is the southern magentic pole located?

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

I have absolutely no idea what "Lurk moar" Mean's I'm not a forum jockey, I'm an American.

oh man.. thats comedy gold. thanks for that.

I'm an American as well. "lurk moar" means to read up on other topics and get yourself up to speed on what the basics are. The act of Lurking is a back ground reading activity untill you are up to speed enough to contribute to existing debates or add new content of your own.

The questions you have asked come up all the time by new members and have been hashed out many times. You will not get the results you seek with this topic. Read through the FAQ a few times (it took me 4 times to get my head arround it) and lurk for a bit. Then see if your question has been answered. Likley you will not besatidifed with the standard FE answers and then need to make a topic that gets what you are looking for. before starting that topic ask yourself if it is likley that you are the first person to ask it. if so that post away. if not then look for it and jump in there.

Welcome to the FES forrum

if the earth is 'flat' then wouldnt we just be able to walk over the edge. or climb over this supposed 'ice wall'

if the earth is 'flat' then wouldnt we just be able to walk over the edge. or climb over this supposed 'ice wall'

Please read the faq.

Don't listen to these people they are all trolls. Since you don't know what 'Lurk Moar' means you probably don't know Troll. A troll is a person who looks for some sort of way to aggravate or anger people. So after looking at alot of these posts, it seems only a small amount of "Flat Earthers" actually believe in a flat earth. I can GUARANTEE if there were no Round Earth believers here, this website would be dead. The only people here are looking to piss you off. I already know this post is gonna get bombarded with a whole bunch of shit but who cares. Trolls are just looking to piss us of. Don't post + don't respond = no trolls. Simple math . Hopefully whoever reads my post will actually consider what I am saying. And if this website is legit, the people who actually believe in a flat earth can actually talk to each other without all this mindless trolling and arguing.

Don't listen to these people they are all trolls. Since you don't know what 'Lurk Moar' means you probably don't know Troll. A troll is a person who looks for some sort of way to aggravate or anger people. So after looking at alot of these posts, it seems only a small amount of "Flat Earthers" actually believe in a flat earth. I can GUARANTEE if there were no Round Earth believers here, this website would be dead. The only people here are looking to piss you off. I already know this post is gonna get bombarded with a whole bunch of shit but who cares. Trolls are just looking to piss us of. Don't post + don't respond = no trolls. Simple math . Hopefully whoever reads my post will actually consider what I am saying. And if this website is legit, the people who actually believe in a flat earth can actually talk to each other without all this mindless trolling and arguing.

Please stay on topic. D&D is strictly moderated and no thread derailing is tolerated.

i couldnt find anything in the faq that suited what i said

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

That won't work...  Ever used a compass? 



There's plenty around about the ice wall if you search.  Basically, Antarctica is the ice wall, is huge, possibly guarded, and (in some models) is infinite.

Quote from: Curtis J. Wilkins on July 20, 2009, 09:54:31 PM

- Why is it when a feather is dropped it reaches the ground at a slower rate than say a rock? (If we're moving with a constant upward acceleration everything should hit the ground at the same time if dropped from the same height if Gravity does not apply.)

- How do Scales work? if there is no such thing as Gravity, then there is no such thing as weight.

With regard to the feather/rock situation, the feather obviously falls slower because the air is slowing it down. In FET the flat earth is accelerating upwards at one gee (we will ignore the inherent ridiculousness of this for now) so anything you "drop" actually stays still and the earth catches it up.

what about clouds? Wouldn't they just ram into the earth and not be able to float in the air?

Quote from: Ski on July 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

That won't work...  Ever used a compass? 

Frequently, when I was younger.

Quote from: Joeval on July 24, 2009, 11:54:31 PM

Quote from: Ski on July 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

That won't work...  Ever used a compass? 

Frequently, when I was younger.

Then you ought to know that a compass wouldn't work if the other magnetic pole is underneath the earth.  Plus, doesn't that contradict the belief that the south pole is the ice wall (or something to that effect)?

Then you ought to know that a compass wouldn't work if the other magnetic pole is underneath the earth.  Plus, doesn't that contradict the belief that the south pole is the ice wall (or something to that effect)?

It's too soon to ask from them. They don't yet have a map and they also don't have consensus about where magnetic poles exactly are on earth. Only that north pole is in the direction of north and south is in direction of south. How is that supposed to look in schema that's under debate yet.

Quote from: Ski on July 25, 2009, 11:45:23 AM

Quote from: Joeval on July 24, 2009, 11:54:31 PM

Quote from: Ski on July 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

That won't work...  Ever used a compass? 

Frequently, when I was younger.

Then you ought to know that a compass wouldn't work if the other magnetic pole is underneath the earth.  Plus, doesn't that contradict the belief that the south pole is the ice wall (or something to that effect)?

I'm rather convinced that it would; perhaps you've not thought it through. 

You were asking specifically about the magnetic poles. The geographic "south pole" in the RE model is simply the outer rim of the disc.

Doesn't anyone have an answer for my cloud question? 

Quote from: Joeval on July 25, 2009, 04:31:08 PM

Quote from: Ski on July 25, 2009, 11:45:23 AM

Quote from: Joeval on July 24, 2009, 11:54:31 PM

Quote from: Ski on July 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

That won't work...  Ever used a compass? 

Frequently, when I was younger.

Then you ought to know that a compass wouldn't work if the other magnetic pole is underneath the earth.  Plus, doesn't that contradict the belief that the south pole is the ice wall (or something to that effect)?

I'm rather convinced that it would; perhaps you've not thought it through. 

You were asking specifically about the magnetic poles. The geographic "south pole" in the RE model is simply the outer rim of the disc.

Ok, fair point about the difference between the magnetic and geographic poles.

Where on the other side is the magnetic south pole then?  I can't think of how a single point can be the magnetic south pole without it messing up compass bearings...

(Genuinely interested, not trying to be an ass and argue for the sake of arguing)

Directly below the opposite pole.

See, there's the problem.  If the north pole and the south pole have the same epicenter (ok, not quite the right context of the word, but it seems to fit), magnetic metals/compounds/whatever cannot align themselves with North and South.

I'll use a compass as an example, but the same can be seen at mid oceanic ridges, and banded iron formations.

A compass works by the magnetic arrow being attracted to North and repelled by South.  If the poles were essentially "stacked", the compass needle would be both attracted and repelled from the same direction.  If that were to happen, I suspect it would most likely point east-west instead of north-south.

That also brings up problems when you are navigating by compass.

Lol forget it Curtis.

Everything you say or question has a come back to another crazy theory to cover it up. Yet we are the ones (RE) that need to provide the evidence because living on a ROUND (lol wtf we'll fall off) planet is so damn crazy, we live on a flat one instead. No gravity doesn't exist (wtf the planet is a big magnet, crazy), no, we are just f*cking flying upward all the time which makes WAY more sense. We're also surrounded by an EVERLASTING ice wall.

Our non planet piece of dirt that we live on is also larger than the sun, which of course is not round either but a flat pane of gold or bronze which just so happens to be facing us directly making it LOOK round (JESES LOL NOWUNDAH!) We also have a moon that projects its OWN light. That makes a lot more sense than living on a ROUND (lol wtf we'll fall off) planet don't you think?

Lol forget it Curtis.

Everything you say or question has a come back to another crazy theory to cover it up. Yet we are the ones (RE) that need to provide the evidence because living on a ROUND (lol wtf we'll fall off) planet is so damn crazy, we live on a flat one instead. No gravity doesn't exist (wtf the planet is a big magnet, crazy), no, we are just f*cking flying upward all the time which makes WAY more sense. We're also surrounded by an EVERLASTING ice wall.

Our non planet piece of dirt that we live on is also larger than the sun, which of course is not round either but a flat pane of gold or bronze which just so happens to be facing us directly making it LOOK round (JESES LOL NOWUNDAH!) We also have a moon that projects its OWN light. That makes a lot more sense than living on a ROUND (lol wtf we'll fall off) planet don't you think?

Please stick to the topic at hand. D&D is strictly moderated, and off-topic posting is not allowed. Consider this a warning.

Quote from: Ski on July 25, 2009, 06:38:50 PM

Quote from: Joeval on July 25, 2009, 04:31:08 PM

Quote from: Ski on July 25, 2009, 11:45:23 AM

Quote from: Joeval on July 24, 2009, 11:54:31 PM

Quote from: Ski on July 21, 2009, 04:48:04 AM

The other magnetic pole is located on the under side of the earth.

That won't work...  Ever used a compass? 

Frequently, when I was younger.

Then you ought to know that a compass wouldn't work if the other magnetic pole is underneath the earth.  Plus, doesn't that contradict the belief that the south pole is the ice wall (or something to that effect)?

I'm rather convinced that it would; perhaps you've not thought it through. 

You were asking specifically about the magnetic poles. The geographic "south pole" in the RE model is simply the outer rim of the disc.

Ok, fair point about the difference between the magnetic and geographic poles.

Where on the other side is the magnetic south pole then?  I can't think of how a single point can be the magnetic south pole without it messing up compass bearings...

(Genuinely interested, not trying to be an ass and argue for the sake of arguing)

Take a bar magnet and a compass and a round peice of cardboard.  Place the magnet underneath with the desired end touching the bottom of the board.  Take the compass and move it about the top of the board.  Record your results and examine them.

That works fine in the Northern hemisphere.  The problem is, that in the Southern hemisphere, a compass will point towards the South pole.

That works fine in the Northern hemisphere.  The problem is, that in the Southern hemisphere, a compass will point towards the South pole.

Yes, it will point at the south pole in the Northern and Southern hemisphere of the board.  Why is this an issue?

Quote from: Joeval on July 29, 2009, 01:59:35 PM

That works fine in the Northern hemisphere.  The problem is, that in the Southern hemisphere, a compass will point towards the South pole.

Yes, it will point at the south pole in the Northern and Southern hemisphere of the board.  Why is this an issue?

Sometimes you really remind me of Engy.