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« on: July 03, 2009, 04:40:51 PM »
Is so fucking smug, when you're not getting wireless and you ask it to "diagnose" it, it offers you such diverse help as "reset your wireless card" oh wow, you do that. Then once it does it, it claims "problem resolved" like it wasn't it's fault in the first place.


FUCK YOU WINDOWS.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 05:16:15 PM »
Half the shit Microsoft provides to "help" never works.

Automatically search and download drivers? Forget it in most cases.

Detailed error messages? I lol at the idea.

Easy to find system log? You're better off taking pre-med courses, buddy.

That's just to name a few.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 05:49:48 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 05:16:15 PM
Half the shit Microsoft provides to "help" never works.

Automatically search and download drivers? Forget it in most cases.

Detailed error messages? I lol at the idea.

Easy to find system log? You're better off taking pre-med courses, buddy.

That's just to name a few.

I agree with this.  But I never use/want to use that shit anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 06:25:48 PM »
Quote from: http://blogs.computerworld.com/london_stock_exchange_to_abandon_failed_windows_platform
London Stock Exchange to abandon failed Windows platform

Anyone who was ever fool enough to believe that Microsoft software was good enough to be used for a mission-critical operation had their face slapped this September when the LSE (London Stock Exchange)'s Windows-based TradElect system brought the market to a standstill for almost an entire day. While the LSE denied that the collapse was TradElect's fault, they also refused to explain what the problem really wa. Sources at the LSE tell me to this day that the problem was with TradElect.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 10:22:41 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on July 03, 2009, 05:49:48 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 05:16:15 PM
Half the shit Microsoft provides to "help" never works.

Automatically search and download drivers? Forget it in most cases.

Detailed error messages? I lol at the idea.

Easy to find system log? You're better off taking pre-med courses, buddy.

That's just to name a few.

I agree with this.  But I never use/want to use that shit anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all.

No one uses it because MS is shit and hides anything useful because they expect the end users to fork over cash for support calls which cost you an arm and a leg. Then, for those who do find the utilities and can use them, they make it difficult and redundant as hell to do anything with, causing massive confusion. Have fun figuring out how to set groups, owners and permissions in Windows...
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 10:37:47 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
Have fun figuring out how to set groups, owners and permissions in Windows...

I do it nearly every day in a three-forest environment with two-way trusts.  It is especially fun when the Global Catalog isn't updating in one or more sites and applies permissions to two-week old Active Directory objects.  Keeps worthless people from doing their worthless jobs.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 10:42:26 PM »
Quote from: JUNKER on July 03, 2009, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
Have fun figuring out how to set groups, owners and permissions in Windows...

I do it nearly every day in a three-forest environment with two-way trusts.  It is especially fun when the Global Catalog isn't updating in one or more sites and applies permissions to two-week old Active Directory objects.  Keeps worthless people from doing their worthless jobs.

Two way trusts are a pain in the ass. I used to manage a server which required manually creating/registering new certs and then installing them on the client machines. This had to be done every two weeks. Hated it.

This is way easier to do on Mac OS X Client and Server.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 10:48:28 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: JUNKER on July 03, 2009, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
Have fun figuring out how to set groups, owners and permissions in Windows...

I do it nearly every day in a three-forest environment with two-way trusts.  It is especially fun when the Global Catalog isn't updating in one or more sites and applies permissions to two-week old Active Directory objects.  Keeps worthless people from doing their worthless jobs.

Two way trusts are a pain in the ass. I used to manage a server which required manually creating/registering new certs and then installing them on the client machines. This had to be done every two weeks. Hated it.

This is way easier to do on Mac OS X Client and Server.

Server 2008's Directory Services seem to alleviate a lot of the these problems if implemented properly.  But 99% of the world's networks that use MS are still on 2003/2000.

Hopefully, Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7 will make working with a Microsoft domain environment tolerable again.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 11:03:07 PM »
Quote from: JUNKER on July 03, 2009, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: JUNKER on July 03, 2009, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on July 03, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
Have fun figuring out how to set groups, owners and permissions in Windows...

I do it nearly every day in a three-forest environment with two-way trusts.  It is especially fun when the Global Catalog isn't updating in one or more sites and applies permissions to two-week old Active Directory objects.  Keeps worthless people from doing their worthless jobs.

Two way trusts are a pain in the ass. I used to manage a server which required manually creating/registering new certs and then installing them on the client machines. This had to be done every two weeks. Hated it.

This is way easier to do on Mac OS X Client and Server.

Server 2008's Directory Services seem to alleviate a lot of the these problems if implemented properly.  But 99% of the world's networks that use MS are still on 2003/2000.

Hopefully, Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7 will make working with a Microsoft domain environment tolerable again.

Hopefully, but I seriously doubt it. Let me know when they include exchange support for free in the client OS, like Apple is with Snow Leopard.

EDIT: Free Exchange Server support has been in iPhone OS since 2.0, which includes Exchange Push Notification. Also included free Microsoft Office file support, so you can read PowerPoint, Word (.doc, .docx), Excel and the other file types natively without needing Office at all. You can do this in Leopard currently with QuickLook as well. 3.0 extends and improves these areas even more based on the work in Snow Leopard (the iPhone OS kernel is 10.0.0d3 now, which is the same kernel used in Snow Leopard as well, just compiled for ARM).
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 11:16:21 PM »
Damn you Apple and your betterness.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 02:53:48 AM »
Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2009, 04:40:51 PM
Is so fucking smug, when you're not getting wireless and you ask it to "diagnose" it, it offers you such diverse help as "reset your wireless card" oh wow, you do that. Then once it does it, it claims "problem resolved" like it wasn't it's fault in the first place.


FUCK YOU WINDOWS.
I tend to strip out that shit, including windows defender and many other resource wasting nonsense. Give Windows 7 RC a try, it's what vista should have been.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 08:20:31 AM »
Quote from: Dead Kangaroo on July 04, 2009, 02:53:48 AM
Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2009, 04:40:51 PM
Is so fucking smug, when you're not getting wireless and you ask it to "diagnose" it, it offers you such diverse help as "reset your wireless card" oh wow, you do that. Then once it does it, it claims "problem resolved" like it wasn't it's fault in the first place.


FUCK YOU WINDOWS.
I tend to strip out that shit, including windows defender and many other resource wasting nonsense. Give Windows 7 RC a try, it's what vista should have been.

This I do recommend, but it still doesn't clean up the shit I was talking about before, or add anything worth mentioning (faster core and UI, new taskbar big whoop). As I said, let me know when they included free Exchange support in their client OS.

By the way, is Windows 7 supposed to support OpenCL?
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 08:23:16 AM »
At least Microsoft is virus free
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 10:25:40 AM »
Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on July 04, 2009, 08:23:16 AM
At least Microsoft is virus free

That's the reason I use it, the fact that you can't get a virus. I mean apple even SOUNDS like you'll get worms. Jesus, I don't know how the Mac fans can get the courage to even plug the router cable into their mouse hole where the second clicker should be.
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2009, 07:22:47 PM »
Lol "mouse hole"

But yes apple is dodgy. Style over substance.

This thread has become, like all other PC threads, an operating system war
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2009, 08:04:58 PM »
Quote from: frostee on July 04, 2009, 07:22:47 PM
Lol "mouse hole"

But yes apple is dodgy. Style over substance.

This thread has become, like all other PC threads, an operating system war
Does it still count as a war if one side (Microsoft) is clearly the victor?
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2009, 10:35:14 PM »
Yeah. Look at the Iraq "war"
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2009, 12:06:09 AM »
And Iraqis are apple or linux?
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Re: Microsoft
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2009, 10:01:38 AM »
Quote from: Sexual Harassment Panda on July 05, 2009, 12:06:09 AM
And Iraqis are apple or linux?

They use linux like every other godless muslim.
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