CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #120 on: June 16, 2009, 12:58:32 PM »
OMG That just looks wrong on so many lvls.

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Skeptik

Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #121 on: June 16, 2009, 01:49:46 PM »
I thought so too.  :o

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #122 on: June 16, 2009, 02:19:16 PM »
Peta would have a field day on that! "Protect those balls!" :D

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #123 on: June 16, 2009, 03:09:13 PM »
It's not my fault that you don't know how to comprehend properly.

I comprehend very well. The problem is that you don't do a very good job of expressing yourself properly, as noted multiple times in this thread. By the way, just because you make revisionist statements as people call you out on things, doesn't mean that you didn't imply those things to begin with. You might be trying to back-peddle now, but you've left a pretty clear trail of ridiculous assertions here with absolutely no support for any of it. I understand that you get your rocks off trying--and failing quite miserably, I might add--to get under people's skin. I hope you realize that exposing your ignorance is just as fun.
So you misinterpret what I say, and then flame me for it. Who's the troll again?

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #124 on: June 16, 2009, 04:02:51 PM »
It's not my fault that you don't know how to comprehend properly.

I comprehend very well. The problem is that you don't do a very good job of expressing yourself properly, as noted multiple times in this thread. By the way, just because you make revisionist statements as people call you out on things, doesn't mean that you didn't imply those things to begin with. You might be trying to back-peddle now, but you've left a pretty clear trail of ridiculous assertions here with absolutely no support for any of it. I understand that you get your rocks off trying--and failing quite miserably, I might add--to get under people's skin. I hope you realize that exposing your ignorance is just as fun.
So you misinterpret what I say, and then flame me for it. Who's the troll again?

If you don't like being called to task for your poor articulation, perhaps you should think twice before making biggoted statements about people you don't know.

Now, what you've said in this thread clearly indicates that you believe there is a direct relationship between the variables of grammar, intelligence, and education level. Whether you believe they are causal or simply correlational is not clear. If that is not what you mean, perhaps you should enlighten us all and clarify.
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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #125 on: June 16, 2009, 04:14:17 PM »
It's not my fault that you don't know how to comprehend properly.

I comprehend very well. The problem is that you don't do a very good job of expressing yourself properly, as noted multiple times in this thread. By the way, just because you make revisionist statements as people call you out on things, doesn't mean that you didn't imply those things to begin with. You might be trying to back-peddle now, but you've left a pretty clear trail of ridiculous assertions here with absolutely no support for any of it. I understand that you get your rocks off trying--and failing quite miserably, I might add--to get under people's skin. I hope you realize that exposing your ignorance is just as fun.
So you misinterpret what I say, and then flame me for it. Who's the troll again?

If you don't like being called to task for your poor articulation, perhaps you should think twice before making biggoted statements about people you don't know.

Now, what you've said in this thread clearly indicates that you believe there is a direct relationship between the variables of grammar, intelligence, and education level. Whether you believe they are causal or simply correlational is not clear. If that is not what you mean, perhaps you should enlighten us all and clarify.
I have articulated properly. You need to work on your comprehension. I fell no need to repeat myself.

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #126 on: June 16, 2009, 04:28:06 PM »
I have articulated properly. You need to work on your comprehension. I fell no need to repeat myself.

So, once again, let's recap:

In general, RE'ers have worse grammar. This is a telltale sign of less education.

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar.

Intelligence related to grammar: check. (second quote)
Grammar related to education: check. (first quote)

That's pretty clear to me. So, if this is what we're going with, then we're back to the beginning. You are wrong. I have thoroughly documented my side of the argument while you have resorted to childish biggoted statements. Anything else to add?
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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #127 on: June 16, 2009, 04:31:04 PM »
I have articulated properly. You need to work on your comprehension. I fell no need to repeat myself.

So, once again, let's recap:

In general, RE'ers have worse grammar. This is a telltale sign of less education.

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar.

Intelligence related to grammar: check. (second quote)
Grammar related to education: check. (first quote)

That's pretty clear to me. So, if this is what we're going with, then we're back to the beginning. You are wrong. I have thoroughly documented my side of the argument while you have resorted to childish biggoted statements. Anything else to add?
Bad grammar=Lack of education.
High intelligence=Good grammar
That is a very simple way of looking at it.

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Starbuck

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #128 on: June 16, 2009, 04:44:07 PM »
I have articulated properly. You need to work on your comprehension. I fell no need to repeat myself.

So, once again, let's recap:

In general, RE'ers have worse grammar. This is a telltale sign of less education.

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar.

Intelligence related to grammar: check. (second quote)
Grammar related to education: check. (first quote)

That's pretty clear to me. So, if this is what we're going with, then we're back to the beginning. You are wrong. I have thoroughly documented my side of the argument while you have resorted to childish biggoted statements. Anything else to add?
Bad grammar=Lack of education.
High intelligence=Good grammar
That is a very simple way of looking at it.

Did you read anything that I posted? Or any of the links that I posted? My whole point was that you were wrong in stating that "Bad grammar=Lack of education" and that "High intelligence=Good grammar." That's been the crux of my argument and documentation. Maybe you're the one who needs help with comprehension!
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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #129 on: June 16, 2009, 04:57:17 PM »
I used logic to demonstrate my side, while you simply just copy pasted links.

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Starbuck

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #130 on: June 16, 2009, 05:57:30 PM »
I used logic to demonstrate my side, while you simply just copy pasted links.

You used BS to demonstrate your side.

Alrighty. So, poor grammar is not necessarily related to intelligence level or education level. Often, people have learning disabilities that affect their ability to read and/or write effectively. You should know that according to the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), which is the federal law that governs special education practices in this country, a learning disability exists when academic achievement in a certain area does not meet expected criteria. One way to establish this is to note a difference between the child's intellectual ability and their actual achievement. This implies that learning disabilities are not related to intelligence level. In fact, there are people who have documented IQ's in the Superior range (above 130) who also have documented learning disabilities. Therefore, poor grammar is not necessarily related to intelligence.

Also, poor instruction can lead to underdeveloped grammar skills. In many urban school districts, there is not enough funding to be able to afford teachers who are capable of dealing with urban populations and overcrowding, and who are also willing to work in that type of environment. Because of this lack of funding, districts often have to hire teachers who are not able to handle situations, or are not emotionally invested in their job or students. This leads to poor instruction. Children pass from grade to grade without developing basic skills not because they are stupid, but because they are unfortunate enough to live within a district that cannot afford to provide them with proper and adequate instruction.

Furthermore, people who come to this country from other countries have the added burden of needing to learn an entirely new langage in order to function. These people experience very different home and school lives. Children go to school where they are expected to speak exclusively English. When they go home, they are expected to speak exclusively their native language. One problem that arises if the child is particularly young is that they have not yet mastered their own language when they begin to learn English. Research has clearly shown that it is necessary to develop mastery of your own language before you can master a second language, unless you begin learning both languages simultaneously. Research suggests that it takes between 5-7 years to master a language. If you consider that children generally start talking at around age 2, you cannot really expect them to master their own language until age 9 or so. If that child enters a school system before they have mastered their first language, they may end up having difficulty learning either language. Again, that has nothing to do with the intelligence of the child, nor does it necessarily have anything to do, ultimately, with the education level of the child. He/she could continue to progress through school without developing true mastery of spelling, grammar, etc. There are many people who are socially fluent in two languages or more who do not speak any of their languages with perfect grammar. That is one of the side effects of learning multiple languages with different sets of rules. I would say that a person who knows more than one language, but who speaks all of them imperfectly is better off than a person who only speaks one language with perfection.

There. How is that?
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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #131 on: June 16, 2009, 06:04:37 PM »
I used logic to demonstrate my side, while you simply just copy pasted links.

You used BS to demonstrate your side.

Alrighty. So, poor grammar is not necessarily related to intelligence level or education level. Often, people have learning disabilities that affect their ability to read and/or write effectively. You should know that according to the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), which is the federal law that governs special education practices in this country, a learning disability exists when academic achievement in a certain area does not meet expected criteria. One way to establish this is to note a difference between the child's intellectual ability and their actual achievement. This implies that learning disabilities are not related to intelligence level. In fact, there are people who have documented IQ's in the Superior range (above 130) who also have documented learning disabilities. Therefore, poor grammar is not necessarily related to intelligence.

They were given a rather poor IQ test then if they get a 130 and lack basic grammar ability.

Also, poor instruction can lead to underdeveloped grammar skills. In many urban school districts, there is not enough funding to be able to afford teachers who are capable of dealing with urban populations and overcrowding, and who are also willing to work in that type of environment. Because of this lack of funding, districts often have to hire teachers who are not able to handle situations, or are not emotionally invested in their job or students. This leads to poor instruction. Children pass from grade to grade without developing basic skills not because they are stupid, but because they are unfortunate enough to live within a district that cannot afford to provide them with proper and adequate instruction.

Even the most run-down schools teach basic grammar.

Furthermore, people who come to this country from other countries have the added burden of needing to learn an entirely new langage in order to function. These people experience very different home and school lives. Children go to school where they are expected to speak exclusively English. When they go home, they are expected to speak exclusively their native language. One problem that arises if the child is particularly young is that they have not yet mastered their own language when they begin to learn English. Research has clearly shown that it is necessary to develop mastery of your own language before you can master a second language, unless you begin learning both languages simultaneously. Research suggests that it takes between 5-7 years to master a language. If you consider that children generally start talking at around age 2, you cannot really expect them to master their own language until age 9 or so. If that child enters a school system before they have mastered their first language, they may end up having difficulty learning either language. Again, that has nothing to do with the intelligence of the child, nor does it necessarily have anything to do, ultimately, with the education level of the child. He/she could continue to progress through school without developing true mastery of spelling, grammar, etc. There are many people who are socially fluent in two languages or more who do not speak any of their languages with perfect grammar. That is one of the side effects of learning multiple languages with different sets of rules. I would say that a person who knows more than one language, but who speaks all of them imperfectly is better off than a person who only speaks one language with perfection.

These children should be enrolled in classes focusing on children who are in their situation. This will allow them to become fluent in English.


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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #132 on: June 16, 2009, 10:46:34 PM »
Starbuck,

You are wasting your time arguing with this simpleton.  As I stated in another post of mine, there are a few things that seem to be a common theme with most of the FE'ers on this site:

1.) The Grand Conspiracy Theory
2.) Non sequitur replies
3.) Utter disregard or outright neglect for intended meaning, choosing to instead focus on semantics by quoting people out of context.

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You have, for all intensive purposes, pwn3d Waste of Mind.  Explaining yourself any further is like trying to explain yourself to an ant.  I have decided that any and all rebuttle he has for me or any future posts will be replied to with the same response each and every time:

Quote from: Waste of Mind
So, the other day I'm fucking this dude in the ass... I go to give him a reach-around, and the dude already has a hard-on... What a faggot!
If there is anything that this horrible tragedy can teach us, it's that an RE'er's life is a precious commodity. Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #133 on: June 16, 2009, 11:00:57 PM »
quote author=Waste of Mind]
So, the other day I'm fucking this dude in the ass... I go to give him a reach-around, and the dude already has a hard-on... What a faggot!
[/quote]

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #134 on: June 16, 2009, 11:14:16 PM »
Starbuck,

You are wasting your time arguing with this simpleton.  As I stated in another post of mine, there are a few things that seem to be a common theme with most of the FE'ers on this site:

1.) The Grand Conspiracy Theory
2.) Non sequitur replies
3.) Utter disregard or outright neglect for intended meaning, choosing to instead focus on semantics by quoting people out of context.

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You have, for all intensive purposes, pwn3d Waste of Mind.  Explaining yourself any further is like trying to explain yourself to an ant.  I have decided that any and all rebuttle he has for me or any future posts will be replied to with the same response each and every time:

Quote from: Waste of Mind
So, the other day I'm fucking this dude in the ass... I go to give him a reach-around, and the dude already has a hard-on... What a faggot!
quote author=Waste of Mind]
So, the other day I'm fucking this dude in the ass... I go to give him a reach-around, and the dude already has a hard-on... What a faggot!


Story of my life.
Another win for RE'ers!

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #135 on: June 16, 2009, 11:24:35 PM »
Not so much.

Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #136 on: June 16, 2009, 11:37:49 PM »
mm smell that? Do you know what that smell is? VICTORY! Chalk one up for the good guys!

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #137 on: June 16, 2009, 11:43:58 PM »
Silly troll, trix are for kids.

Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #138 on: June 17, 2009, 02:10:59 AM »
Actually I'm not a troll at all. I've just been watching you're responses on this thread and decided to join. I'm waiting to see someone actually cite a reputable website with real phsyics, scientists etc to support FE claims on this site. So far I have not seen any information that I can read up in on my own free time that would even begin to support the FE theory. I would like to read some information on a websites that are credible but after searching google and this forum (so far) I have not seen anything. If you'd like please point me in the right direction.

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #139 on: June 17, 2009, 09:29:55 AM »
Actually I'm not a troll at all. I've just been watching you're responses on this thread and decided to join. I'm waiting to see someone actually cite a reputable website with real phsyics, scientists etc to support FE claims on this site. So far I have not seen any information that I can read up in on my own free time that would even begin to support the FE theory. I would like to read some information on a websites that are credible but after searching google and this forum (so far) I have not seen anything. If you'd like please point me in the right direction.
This and this.

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #140 on: June 17, 2009, 09:33:29 AM »


"We will not agree to anything until its generally denied."

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #141 on: June 17, 2009, 09:43:09 AM »
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z137/dangoddang/revsfe.gif

What experiments did Einstein do to demonstrate that the fabric of space time bends? What experiments did Newton do to demonstrate that gravity exists as a force? What experiments did Aristotle, Galileo, and Copernicus do for their ideas?

What experiment has any RE astronomer done to come to the truth of a matter?

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #142 on: June 17, 2009, 09:46:16 AM »
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z137/dangoddang/revsfe.gif

What experiments did Einstein do to demonstrate that the fabric of space time bends? What experiments did Newton do to demonstrate that gravity exists as a force? What experiments did Aristotle, Galileo, and Copernicus do for their ideas?

What experiment has any RE astronomer done to come to the truth of a matter?
They flew into space.

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #143 on: June 17, 2009, 09:48:05 AM »
They flew into space.

Einstein was an astronaut?  :o

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #144 on: June 17, 2009, 09:50:56 AM »

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #145 on: June 17, 2009, 11:09:06 AM »
Einsteins theories have been tested...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele-Keating_experiment

That doesn't demonstrate that the "fabric of space-time" is bending to cause "gravity" as Einstein postulates in General Relativity. That's actually a test of Special Relativity which pertains to different frames of references for moving bodies.

Please learn the difference between General Relativity and Special Relativity.

General Relativity = Gravity is caused by the bending of Space-Time.

Special Relativity = Bodies moving at different rates will experience different frames of references.

Two entirely different creatures.

(Not to mention that the results of the study are widely questioned even among RE'ers, since those planes weren't moving anywhere close to relativistic speeds to properly demonstrate the effect.)
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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #146 on: June 17, 2009, 11:12:01 AM »
Tom Can you only read half sentences?
What experiments did Einstein do to demonstrate that the fabric of space time bends?


Indeed Einsteins relativity (both special and general) is a necessary part of the GPS network.

http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp
Their are 2 large concave mirrors that have been attached to the sun which can be remotely controlled to point the rays wherever they are needed.

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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #147 on: June 17, 2009, 11:17:09 AM »
Sorry, but the GPS network is maintained by the government. The government isn't considered a valid source around here.
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« Reply #148 on: June 17, 2009, 11:20:28 AM »
Sorry, but the GPS network is maintained by the government. I'm not considered a valid source around here.

So your just making it up as usual then Tom.
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Re: CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS
« Reply #149 on: June 17, 2009, 11:31:35 AM »
lol, That was funny the last time i saw that.  ;D
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