CALLING ALL ROUND EARTHERS

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:03:16 PM

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

prime example of FE'er logic.

Quote from: heyethan on June 13, 2009, 07:08:55 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:03:16 PM

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

prime example of FE'er logic.

Prime example of a RE'er incapable of a proper response.

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:03:16 PM

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

Ok, would you consider my grammar to be good?
Bare in mind that english isn't my native language.

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

yet it conveniently doesnt work the other way around?

Quote from: heyethan on June 13, 2009, 07:22:52 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

yet it conveniently doesnt work the other way around?

Logic is a convenient thing.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:40:45 PM

Quote from: heyethan on June 13, 2009, 07:22:52 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

yet it conveniently doesnt work the other way around?

Logic is a convenient thing.

That is the sum total of your knowlage of logic....true

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Quote from: Rjinswand on June 11, 2009, 08:49:06 PM

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Quote from: Rjinswand on June 11, 2009, 08:41:12 PM

Well, there aren't any ACTUAL flat-earthers, in the sense that they actually believe it. The whole point of this sort of thing is to act as a sort of "thought-experiment", examining how a flat-earth model might work, and to illustrate the way we (all humans) accept things without even thinking about it.

So yes, no one actually believes the words is flat....but it's fun to argue from that point of view. It's a good way of learning.

How I wish this were true. Unfortunatly there are actually people on here who believe in the FET.

Urgh....do you really think so? I hope not, because that would just be....weird. I know that that the founders of the movement probably believed it, but...meh. There's no excuse nowadays

Plus, I can give two irrefutable points that - even though they don't prove a round earth - certainly disprove the flat earth model. I've brought both of these points up on these forums, and no one's addressed them. They're also not on the FAQ. I figured if people really believed this nonsense, they would have found a way to respond to my points, instead of just ignoring them.

Yeah, get used to being ignored when you bring up a valid point to which the FEers have no answer. Btw, what were these two points?

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Well that's what I figured. If you were genuinely certain of your theory, you'd respond to any flaws in it, wouldn't you?

Anyway, the two points I had were:

1. The Southern Cross. As a person who lives in the Southern Hemisphere, and has spent time in Australia, New Zealand, AND Brazil, I'm well aware that you can see the Southern Cross above the South Pole at all times. On the standard flat earth model, this is impossible, because that would mean the same set of stars is in every direction at once (since there is no south pole)

2. Antarctica "days". I've also been lucky enough to spend time in Antarctica, as part of a documentary film crew....and for anyone who's been there (thousands, all in on the conspiracy - lol), its a pretty well known fact that you get continuous sunshine for months at a time, followed by a swing toward months of continuous darkness (because for one half of the year the south ole is tilted toward the sun, the other half tilted away). I'd be interested to see how a six month day fits into the flat earth model. No one's addressed it (that I've seen yet)

Great points rjinswand!

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

Honnestly I didnt read much of this topic so I hope this fits in, by your logic of FE'ers being more intelligent (pseudoscientists) than RE'ers, are you suggesting that here on FES we have the top,  smartest and most intelligent people in the world? Because im sorry but that is a blatant lie. I dont think FE'ers are dumb, just misguided and confused.

You all have it wrong, Nutrition makes you smart.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

Wow. So what you're saying is that even though FEers may use good grammar, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are smart.

Interesting. Where's this evidence of yours again?

Honnestly I didnt read much of this topic so I hope this fits in, by your logic of FE'ers being more intelligent (pseudoscientists) than RE'ers, are you suggesting that here on FES we have the top,  smartest and most intelligent people in the world? Because im sorry but that is a blatant lie. I dont think FE'ers are dumb, just misguided and confused.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:03:16 PM

I'm sorry, if you are smart, you have good grammar. You can try and argue otherwise, but then you are retarded. Retarded people are not smart. People who are smart do not use internet slang, because they can see that internet slang is devaluing our language, and our society as a whole.

I have a master's degree in creative writing and a master's degree in educational psychology. I can state with some authority that you are wrong.

Denialism is a form of propaganda covering a variety of activities. It can be as simple as like-minded individuals signing letters of dissent, or as elaborate as professional grey or black propaganda campaigns by advertising and marketing agencies.

Denialism can arise from personal ideologies, or desire for profit. Industry groups may seek to protect markets from damaging facts and information. Political groups may work to advance their agendas. Combinations of these may work in concert with interest groups on issues of mutual importance. Despite the disparity between these groups and the motives behind them, the tactics used by denialists are largely similar. Common features include:[13]

    * Conspiracism - Suggesting scientists have an ulterior motive for their research, or that they are part of some hidden plan or agenda.[14]
    * Selectivity - Relying upon discredited or flawed work supporting their idea while dismissing more credible work; presenting discredited or superseded papers to make a field look like it is based on weak research. Inflating favorable 'evidence' while discounting the contradictory, often while misrepresenting the significance of each. The selective use of evidence by denialists includes quote mining and cherry picking.
    * False experts - Citing paid, partisan scientists or self-appointed 'experts,' whose credentials are often in an unrelated field.[15][16][17]
    * Impossible expectations - Seeking to prevent the implementation of sound policies or acceptance of a theory by citing the absence of 'complete' or 'absolute' knowledge.
    * Misrepresentations and logical fallacies - Denialists sometimes employ logical fallacies: red herring; straw man; appeal to consequences; false analogy. An example of the misuse of analogy in arguments is the watchmaker analogy. A common misrepresentation used in the intelligent design movement is the intentional use of the term Darwinism when what is being objected to is evolution. An example of an appeal to consequences is the common neo-creationist claim that an acceptance of evolution (Darwinism) leads to social ills such as the atrocities committed by Hitler's Nazi regime,[18] providing also an example of the reductio ad Hitlerum fallacy often used by denialists and an example of cherry-picking, since Hitler also appealed to religion, germ theory, and animal husbandry. Another common fallacy, often used in conjunction with impossible expectations, is the false dilemma fallacy, whereby unless there is an absolute proof of an assertion, the assertion is claimed false.

Ahhh wikipedia.The epitome of a truly great resource for all psychological and scientific needs.

So instead of responding to my claims, you just copy paste large blocks of text and accuse me of being in denial.

Quote from: Starbuck on June 15, 2009, 06:57:11 AM

I have a master's degree in creative writing and a master's degree in educational psychology. I can state with some authority that you are wrong.

OOOOOO CREATIVE WRITING. YOU AM VERY SMRT. DO ME NAO? Get some real degrees, faggot.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 15, 2009, 08:45:43 AM

Quote from: Starbuck on June 15, 2009, 06:57:11 AM

I have a master's degree in creative writing and a master's degree in educational psychology. I can state with some authority that you are wrong.

OOOOOO CREATIVE WRITING. YOU AM VERY SMRT. DO ME NAO? Get some real degrees, faggot.

Well, your point was that FEers are more educated, and by extension, smarter. That's clearly not the case as I am well-educated, intellectually capable, and a round earth believer.

Now, you've shown your true level of intellect by stooping to childish personal attacks because I have a terminal degree addressing the exact skill set that is being discussed here. I notice that you did not say anything about my other area of expertise (and for the record, I'm at the master's level now, but am currently about half-way through a doctoral program). Perhaps because you don't know what an educational psychologist/school psychologist does?

Basically, one very over-simplified way of looking at it is that I give IQ tests for a living. I've given the WISC-IV, the WAIS-III, the Stanford-Binet V, the KABC-2, the DAS-2, and the WJ-III on numerous occasions. I've also studied virtually every other standardized assessment of cognitive abilities on the market. I can assure you that none of those instruments have a subtest designed to measure grammatical ability.

There are many things that contribute to poor grammar, many of which have nothing to do with intelligence. Many have nothing to do with education level either. There are many people who have learning disabilities in one area that are highly gifted intellectually in other areas. Additionally, many people do not have the benefit of equal quality education. People in poor communities might attain the same level of education as those from priveleged communities, yet not acquire the same skills due to lack of money to support quality services. That doesn't even consider the factor of immigration and how acculturation affects language development. You throw around the word "smart" like it's this easily-defined concept. I'd like to see you give a comprehensive definition of "smart" that would validate your claim that intelligence and good grammar go hand-in-hand.

By the way, you get very hostile and defensive when someone challenges your uninformed opinions, don't you?

Proper nutrition allows for proper brain growth.

OOOOOO CREATIVE WRITING. YOU AM VERY SMRT. DO ME NAO? Get some real degrees, faggot.

Quote from: KillaBee on June 15, 2009, 07:20:39 AM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

Wow. So what you're saying is that even though FEers may use good grammar, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are smart.

Interesting. Where's this evidence of yours again?

I am saying that those with bad grammar are appear dumb. Those with bad grammar are generally RE'ers.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 15, 2009, 08:45:43 AM

Quote from: KillaBee on June 15, 2009, 07:20:39 AM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 13, 2009, 07:20:53 PM

Note, Smart people have good grammar, but good grammar does not necessarily make you smart.

Wow. So what you're saying is that even though FEers may use good grammar, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are smart.

Interesting. Where's this evidence of yours again?

I am saying that those with bad grammar are appear dumb. Those with bad grammar are generally RE'ers.

Fixed that for you.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on June 15, 2009, 08:45:43 AM

Quote from: Starbuck on June 15, 2009, 06:57:11 AM

I have a master's degree in creative writing and a master's degree in educational psychology. I can state with some authority that you are wrong.

OOOOOO CREATIVE WRITING. YOU AM VERY SMRT. DO ME NAO? Get some real degrees, faggot.

Well, your point was that FEers are more educated, and by extension, smarter. That's clearly not the case as I am well-educated, intellectually capable, and a round earth believer.

First, I never said that more educated is the same as more intelligent. Second off, I never said all smart people are FE'ers. Maybe if you had some real degrees, you'd be able to comprehend better.

Basically, one very over-simplified way of looking at it is that I give IQ tests for a living. I've given the WISC-IV, the WAIS-III, the Stanford-Binet V, the KABC-2, the DAS-2, and the WJ-III on numerous occasions. I've also studied virtually every other standardized assessment of cognitive abilities on the market. I can assure you that none of those instruments have a subtest designed to measure grammatical ability.
Oh shit, I'm sorry. You can give IQ tests for a living. You am is smarterest peoples evar.

There are many things that contribute to poor grammar, many of which have nothing to do with intelligence. Many have nothing to do with education level either. There are many people who have learning disabilities in one area that are highly gifted intellectually in other areas.
If they are gifted in one area, they are obviously capable of working on their language skills and acquiring good grammar.

Additionally, many people do not have the benefit of equal quality education. People in poor communities might attain the same level of education as those from priveleged communities, yet not acquire the same skills due to lack of money to support quality services.
Even the most run-down schools offer enough of a curiculum to teach people that "ur ghey" is not proper English.

That doesn't even consider the factor of immigration and how acculturation affects language development.
Then these people should work on their language skills.

By the way, you get very hostile and defensive when someone challenges your uninformed opinions, don't you?
Nope, I'm just a dick. Being a dick and being hostile are often confused.

It's funny how as, as Starbuck put it, you become hostile and defensive when someone challenges you. You try to talk about grammar, intelligence, and by extention maturity, yet you fail to act like someone who is past kindergarden.

http://www.dyslexia.com/qafame.htm

Dyslexia is a form of mental retardation. Are you saying retards are smart?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_speculated[/size]_to_have_been_autistic

How can you speculate someone having autism, either they have or they havn't, I'm sure the parents would know due to being told by the childs doctor.