erm horizon?

Quote from: astrofan on April 26, 2009, 03:58:59 PM

Aside from not understanding physics (there's no such thing as EA Theory, I guess you just made it up) you're not really explaining why the sun and moon, which are beyond the horizon, can be seen.

Because a curved path with sufficient upward concavity does exist between the Sun and Moon and a faraway observer.

Yet such a curved path doesn't exist between an object "over" the horizon and the observer?

Quote from: astrofan on April 26, 2009, 04:32:27 PM

Yet such a curved path doesn't exist between an object "over" the horizon and the observer?

Over? Yes. Beyond? No.

*sigh* Please clarify what you believe to be the difference between over and beyond in this context.

Maybe we need another drawing huh?

Over = up, beyond = away.

I think all of you are really stupid idiots. How do you explain the seasons. How do you explain low tide and high tide. Have you ever seen any hubble spacecraft pictures or any globes. You all make me sick. Please email me at [email protected], and give me your best shot at convincing me that the earth is flat.

In this situation the two are euquivelent (to the observer)

Please retake a physics class. It will help you understand the way the universe works.

Bendy light is an invented solution to a problem which occurs because Flat Earth is inconsistent with reality.  Again: Bendy light is TOTALLY INVENTED by FET...

Light doesn't bend sufficiently to produce a horizon.  It's just Robosteve's last line of defense against physics.  He can't give an equation which describes the bend, or give any cause for it.

Because it's not real.  Bendy light is an invented solution to a problem which occurs because Flat Earth is inconsistent with reality.  Again: Bendy light is TOTALLY INVENTED by FET.  There is no reason to believe that light bends other than the existence of a horizon is inconsistent with the rest of their beliefs.

Mirages are a well observed, common phenomenon, the most extreme symptoms of bendy light.

Quote from: spanner34.5 on May 18, 2009, 01:04:10 AM

Mirages are a well observed, common phenomenon, the most extreme symptoms of bendy light.

we've been over this spanner.. altho im pretty sure a few of my posts on this subject have disapeared :/
seen as how ur hell bent on anally abusin science im gonna have to clear this up.. again

mirages r caused by refraction not "bendy light".. bendy light works the exact opposite to refraction, that is the light "bends" towards atmosphere with a lower refractive index
also the reason u even get a mirage in the first place is heat.. if mirages were an example of bendy light, then a hot, dry place like africa would have a completely different horizon to somewhere cold and damp, like england..

and have u ever even seen a mirage? in what way does it look anythin like the horizon..
for a start, the mirages u need for light to "bend" upwards, usually cause the image to be seen upside down  .. which i supose is fine for a normal horizon, but once ur lookin at somethin big like a mountain "bendy light" has some serious explainin to do

Your non-use of capital letters and mis-use of punctuation, makes your post very hard to read.

Back to post.......Round earth light bends either direction, depending on local conditions. In my view, light that bends is bendy light. Your view is obviously different.

Quote from: munkirench on May 17, 2009, 09:22:49 PM

Light doesn't bend sufficiently to produce a horizon.  It's just Robosteve's last line of defense against physics.  He can't give an equation which describes the bend, or give any cause for it.

Because it's not real.  Bendy light is an invented solution to a problem which occurs because Flat Earth is inconsistent with reality.  Again: Bendy light is TOTALLY INVENTED by FET.  There is no reason to believe that light bends other than the existence of a horizon is inconsistent with the rest of their beliefs.

Mirages are a well observed, common phenomenon, the most extreme symptoms of bendy light.

There is no reason that light would "bend" upwards.

Inferior mirage is caused by hot air rising.  It requires a hot ground.  That's why you only see (commonly) on asphalt surfaces, or over the desert floor.
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Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 06:58:31 AM

There is no reason that light would "bend" upwards.

Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 07:09:49 AM

Inferior mirage is caused by hot air rising.  It requires a hot ground.  That's why you only see (commonly) on asphalt surfaces, or over the desert floor.
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Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 06:58:31 AM

There is no reason that light would "bend" upwards.

I still maintain that there is no reason that light would, of its own accord, bend upwards. 

A strange theory of most flat Earthers, is that light does not have the capacity to think.

This is where round and flat theories seem to diverge.

Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 07:37:34 AM

I still maintain that there is no reason that light would, of its own accord, bend upwards. 

To suggest that light can achieve anything "of it's own accord" is suggesting that light has some sort of intelligence or choice in the matter.

A strange theory of most flat Earthers, is that light does not have the capacity to think.

This is where round and flat theories seem to diverge.

Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 07:37:34 AM

I still maintain that there is no reason that light would, of its own accord, bend upwards. 

To suggest that light can achieve anything "of it's own accord" is suggesting that light has some sort of intelligence or choice in the matter.

A strange theory of most flat Earthers, is that light does not have the capacity to think.

This is where round and flat theories seem to diverge.

Quote from: munkirench on May 17, 2009, 09:22:49 PM

Light doesn't bend sufficiently to produce a horizon.  It's just Robosteve's last line of defense against physics.  He can't give an equation which describes the bend, or give any cause for it.

Because it's not real.  Bendy light is an invented solution to a problem which occurs because Flat Earth is inconsistent with reality.  Again: Bendy light is TOTALLY INVENTED by FET.  There is no reason to believe that light bends other than the existence of a horizon is inconsistent with the rest of their beliefs.

Mirages are a well observed, common phenomenon, the most extreme symptoms of bendy light.

Quote from: spanner34.5 on May 18, 2009, 01:04:10 AM

Quote from: munkirench on May 17, 2009, 09:22:49 PM

Light doesn't bend sufficiently to produce a horizon.  It's just Robosteve's last line of defense against physics.  He can't give an equation which describes the bend, or give any cause for it.

Because it's not real.  Bendy light is an invented solution to a problem which occurs because Flat Earth is inconsistent with reality.  Again: Bendy light is TOTALLY INVENTED by FET.  There is no reason to believe that light bends other than the existence of a horizon is inconsistent with the rest of their beliefs.

Mirages are a well observed, common phenomenon, the most extreme symptoms of bendy light.

Mirages are the result of atmospheric refraction.  Bendy light, as proposed by FET, is the result of a yet undiscovered electromagnetic accelerator (possibly dark energy).  Two completely different phenomena.  Please try to keep up, will you?

So in other words, Bendy Light is an invented solution which uses an undiscovered phenomenon to explain away a huge discrepancy?

Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 08:48:24 AM

So in other words, Bendy Light is an invented solution which uses an undiscovered phenomenon to explain away a huge discrepancy?

Much like dark energy and dark matter invented by round Earthers to explain the unexplainable.

No. Dark matter has been observed.