Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?

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Delthan

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Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« on: April 08, 2009, 09:08:19 AM »
I now have a pretty good idea for the whole FE system, based on what I've been told here.  There is Dark Energy permeating the Universe, accelerating everything 'upwards' at 9.8 m/s/s.  However, the 'base' of the Earth is made of something that stops Dark Energy from travelling through it, so the surface of the Earth does not experience this acceleration, thus the 'illusion' of gravity is made. 
However, as the Sun is directly above the Earth, seemingly shielded from the Dark Energy by the Earth itself, the Dark Energy must somehow 'curve' around the edge of the Earth, so it encompasses the Earth above its surface, creating a dome free of DE that contains the Earth's biosphere.  I believe the stated FE figure for the distance between Earth and Sun was about 3000 miles, so the Dark Energy must rejoin before that.
Now, given that it is technologically possible to go at a faster acceleration than the Earth, as plane and rocket flights can attest to, wouldn't it simply be a matter of reaching an altitude of just below 3000 miles (less nearer the edge) in which case, the vessel will have entered the Dark Energy, and would no longer require any accelerating thrust of its own, as the Dark Energy will now keep the vessels position relative to the Earth (I'm assuming it comes to a stop first, just inside the Dark Energy Field).  Now it could use much weaker thrusters to travel freely through space, not having to worry about being pulled down to the surface of the Earth.  Indeed, seeing as the Moon and Sun do have gravity, even in FE, it should be fairly straightforward to reach the Moon.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 12:02:19 PM »
Now, given that it is technologically possible to go at a faster acceleration than the Earth, as plane and rocket flights can attest to, wouldn't it simply be a matter of reaching an altitude of just below 3000 miles

Yes. There's nothing preventing space travel in FE Theory. Is seems now there's also nothing to prevent sustained spaceflight.

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 03:37:02 PM »
And how big of a rocket would it take to continually accelerate at greater than 9.8 m/s^2 for 3000 miles?

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 05:54:59 PM »
There is a Dark Energy field permeating the Universe, accelerating everything 'upwards' at 9.8 m/s/s.
You may need to fix that. Dark Energy is the driving force that accelerates everything in the universe upwards at 9.8m/s2, not the DEF. The Dark Energy Field, according to TheEngineer, is a vector containment of the Earth; it contains the atmolayer and everything below, free from the effects of Dark Energy.

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2009, 11:42:51 PM »
And how big of a rocket would it take to continually accelerate at greater than 9.8 m/s^2 for 3000 miles?

Man, your math is REALLY Broken here.

They dont need to accelerate to stay up. You need constant thrust to counter gravity - the RE version of gravity - not your pseudoscience rubbish gravity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_vehicle

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 12:06:04 AM »
No, he's right. Your perception of FE is broken.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 04:47:59 AM »
No, he's right. Your perception of FE is broken.

Who are you talking to here?
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 04:52:57 AM »
And how big of a rocket would it take to continually accelerate at greater than 9.8 m/s^2 for 3000 miles?

Well, even if the actual images from space are fake, the actual rockets are real, unless NASA are excellent at holography too?  ??? ??? ???

Plus, 3000 miles is the upper limit.  It would be less closer to the edge of the Earth.  The size of the rocket doesn't matter anyway, though obviously the lighter the better as you would need less energy.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 11:08:36 AM »
And how big of a rocket would it take to continually accelerate at greater than 9.8 m/s^2 for 3000 miles?

Don't need rocket. Use balloon.

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 01:29:21 PM »
I think you are over complicating it
Go of the edge of the world. Once you are there you will be accelerated by the dark energy and can just use a little power to get 3000 miles enough ahead of the planet then go directly over it.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 03:12:17 PM »
Don't need rocket. Use balloon.

You don't see the obvious flaw in that suggestion?
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2009, 03:39:54 PM »
Don't need rocket. Use balloon.

You don't see the obvious flaw in that suggestion?

Do you?

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2009, 04:01:23 PM »
Do you?

Obviously, as I have just drawn attention to its presence.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2009, 04:08:42 PM »
I think you are over complicating it
Go of the edge of the world. Once you are there you will be accelerated by the dark energy and can just use a little power to get 3000 miles enough ahead of the planet then go directly over it.

But most Fers say that it is too treacherous to approach the edge of the Earth.  Plus, the American troops stationed there would be an obstacle  ::)
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2009, 09:21:18 PM »
here's a concept: if the government has access to the edge of the earth, and they followed the procedure outlined, couldn't they potentially put a sattelite into space using very little energy?

or an international space station?

or, even, a Hubble space telescope

or, we can go all the way now. Why not a manned rocketship to the moon?

FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 04:00:33 PM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2009, 04:04:03 PM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

http://www.discoverspace.org/askastronaut_current.cfm
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2009, 04:05:45 PM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

http://www.discoverspace.org/askastronaut_current.cfm

Not a realiable source.  You can't ask co-conspirators about the conspiracy, silly.

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2009, 05:08:53 PM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

There are thousands of pictures worth of proof.  Surely you should be the one to prove that these pictures are fake?
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2009, 07:38:31 PM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

http://www.discoverspace.org/askastronaut_current.cfm

Not a realiable source.  You can't ask co-conspirators about the conspiracy, silly.

I thought that FE'ers claim that most astronauts are not active members of the conspiracy.  Only unwitting dupes.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 08:06:03 PM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

http://www.discoverspace.org/askastronaut_current.cfm

Not a realiable source.  You can't ask co-conspirators about the conspiracy, silly.

I thought that FE'ers claim that most astronauts are not active members of the conspiracy.  Only unwitting dupes.

No, I don't think that could be possible considering most all say they have been to "orbit"

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2009, 09:07:49 PM »
the pictures from space are obviously still fake, I'm just saying that certain military spy sattellites, and the international space station, could actually exist.

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 11:16:28 AM »
FET may actually be compatible with these things. all we need is a new why, and we have a brand new, revolutionized conspiracy theory.

Feers say spaceflight is impossible because they don't like the pictures taken from space.

Hence your idea will never be taken up.

FE'ers say spaceflight is impossible because it is.  Can you prove otherwise?

Yes, spaceflight is possible; http://www.livevideo.com/video/E51C064E79E74AACB3DFA98D6EABD24B/lunar-legacy-episode-1-part-5-did-we-land-on-the-moon-.aspx
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2009, 07:51:01 PM »
They dont need to accelerate to stay up. You need constant thrust to counter gravity - the RE version of gravity - not your pseudoscience rubbish gravity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_vehicle
Umm... constant thrust means constant change in velocity means acceleration.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2009, 07:55:15 PM »
Yes, spaceflight is possible.
I don't think anyone means to argue that it isn't. Simply that sustained spaceflight without influence from the UA and without energy/mass expenditure, or simply orbit is the concern of possibility on FE.
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2009, 04:21:32 AM »
Just out of interest, since flat earthers maintain that the planet earth is continually accelerating upwards, how fast is the earth currently travelling?

Relative to what?
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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2009, 05:07:04 AM »
Just out of interest, since flat earthers maintain that the planet earth is continually accelerating upwards, how fast is the earth currently travelling?

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2009, 06:05:50 AM »
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/video/X-Prize-flight-1.wmv

Private space flight, curvature of the Earth is clearly seen.

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2009, 07:24:23 AM »
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/video/X-Prize-flight-1.wmv

Private space flight, curvature of the edge of the Sun's spotlight is clearly seen.

Fix'd that for ya.
And that flight helps FET.  Why don't they go to orbit?

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Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2009, 07:33:42 AM »
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/video/X-Prize-flight-1.wmv

Private space flight, curvature of the Earth is clearly seen.


Private space flight, lasers are clearly seen.

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