Terroism Link With Flat earth theory

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Binxsy

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« on: June 19, 2006, 05:53:53 PM »
I dont agree with this war going on right now but im not here to discuss that. Would not the terroists try to use this agaisnt the us (propoganda) i mean something juicy like this probally could be bought off the russians since you can buy nukes from them why not also the secrets of how the earth really is indeed flat?

Why would world goverments that dont agree with the European Union or the USA keep this a secret? Since pretty much if you arent with us (EU USA) you generaly dont like us well not all but middle east north korea ect.

Anyway Why would it be such a secret woudnt they want people to know its flat so you know a commercial plane dosent accidentaly fly off the end of the earth and dissapear into nothingness? I think a missing plane isnt easily missed also the thruth would be alot easier.


And here is a simple explnation on tides

Tides were known to the ancients, but an understanding of their origin came only three centuries ago with the publication of Issac Newton's Principia. Tides originate in the fact that the force of gravity decreases with distance from a massive body. The Moon exerts a force on the Earth, and Earth responds by accelerating toward the Moon; however, the waters on the side facing then Moon, being closer to the Moon, accelerate more and fall ahead of Earth. Similarly, Earth itself accelerates more than the waters on the far side and falls ahead of these waters. Thus two aqueous bulges are produced, one on the side of Earth facing the Moon, and one on the side facing away from the Moon. As Earth rotates on its axis beneath these two bulges, the rise and fall of the oceans results. If Earth had not rigidity, the entire planet would flex freely in the same fashion, the ocean bottoms would rise and fall too, and there would be virtually no water tides. The very existence of the tides indicates that on a time scale of several hours, our planet displays considerable rigidity.

Although the Sun exerts a gravitational force 180 times as strong as does the Moon on Earth, because the Moon is so much closer, the variation in Moon's force across Earth's diameter is about 2.2 times larger than the variation in the Sun's force. As noted above, it is this variation that produces tides, thus the pair of bulges raised by the Moon are considerably larger than the pair of tidal bulges get in and out of step, combining in step to produce "spring" tides (no connecton with the season) when the Moon is new or full, and out of step to produce "neap" tides when the Moon is at first or last quarter. Another factor having a substantial influence on tidal ranges is the elliptical shape of the Moon's orbit. Although the Moon is only 9 to 14% closer at its close point to Earth (perigee) than at its far point (apogee), because the variation in its gravitational force varies inversely as the cube of its distance (the force itself varies inversely as the square of the distance), the Moon's tidal influence is 30 to 48% greater at perigee than at apogee. In the Bay of Fundy the perigee-apogee influence is greater than the spring-neap influence. Although the variation of the Moon's distance is not readily apparent to observers viewing the Moon directly, to observers near the shores of Minas Basin, the three to six metre increase in the vertical tidal range makes it obvious when the Moon is near perigee, clear skies or cloudy!





ALSO SPHERICAL GEOMETRY  PROVES EARTH BEING A SPHERE, MATH IS SOMETHING THE GOVERMENT CAN NOT CHANGE SINCE MATH ALWAYS PROVES ITSELF UNINFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE FORCES.
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Unimportant

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2006, 05:55:13 PM »
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ALSO SPHERICAL GEOMETRY  PROVES EARTH BEING A SPHERE, MATH IS SOMETHING THE GOVERMENT CAN NOT CHANGE SINCE MATH ALWAYS PROVES ITSELF UNINFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE FORCES.

Explain.

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2006, 05:57:02 PM »
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ALSO SPHERICAL GEOMETRY  PROVES EARTH BEING A SPHERE, MATH IS SOMETHING THE GOVERMENT CAN NOT CHANGE SINCE MATH ALWAYS PROVES ITSELF UNINFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE FORCES.

Explain.


Heres an example 2+2=4 what your saying is the government can change what people think through propaganda to show that 2+2=3

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Binxsy

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2006, 05:57:18 PM »
Land surveyers use plane geometry which doesn't work over large distances. The methods of spherical geometry, however, do fit the surface of the earth very closely. For example, if you survey a large triangle, the sum of the interior angles is greater than 180 deg.

If the Earth were flat, then no matter how far away the sun was, there would never be an Arctic Circle. Draw a horizontal line on a paper. Now mark a point above that line to represent the god Mercury in his chariot crossing the sky at noon. All points along that line would have a direct line of sight to the sun god. Not only that, but from two different points, you would be able to determine how far up Mercury's chariot was.

Get a peice of paper and try this...
Start with point A and point B at a distance d to the north. A makes an angle theta with the sun, and B makes an angle phi. The angle between the hypotenuse of A and the hypotenuse of B is phi - theta. By trigonometric Law of Sines, you should be able to compute the hypotenuses (hypoteni?) of both A and B. And from there, by basic trig, you can compute how high up Mercury's chariot is. If the assumption that the Earth is flat is correct, then you should be able to take another point C still further north of B and run the numbers and come up with the same distance. If the numbers don't add up, then the hypothesis is flawed.


Iv never been good with math my mind wasnt biult for it really
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2006, 05:57:39 PM »
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Start with point A and point B at a distance d to the north. A makes an angle theta with the sun, and B makes an angle phi. The angle between the hypotenuse of A and the hypotenuse of B is phi - theta. By trigonometric Law of Sines, you should be able to compute the hypotenuses (hypoteni?) of both A and B. And from there, by basic trig, you can compute how high up Mercury's chariot is. If the assumption that the Earth is flat is correct, then you should be able to take another point C still further north of B and run the numbers and come up with the same distance. If the numbers don't add up, then the hypothesis is flawed.


Of course.

I think, if someone performed this experiment, it would prove the sun is 3000 miles above the surface of the flat earth.

Do you have some reason to believe otherwise?

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Binxsy

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2006, 06:05:09 PM »
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ALSO SPHERICAL GEOMETRY  PROVES EARTH BEING A SPHERE, MATH IS SOMETHING THE GOVERMENT CAN NOT CHANGE SINCE MATH ALWAYS PROVES ITSELF UNINFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE FORCES.

Explain.


Heres an example 2+2=4 what your saying is the government can change what people think through propaganda to show that 2+2=3




NO.....2+2=4 since if i add two apples to a basket of 2 apples i have 4 apples in a basket. Math is always provable if they can measure the distance around the globe and do the equation more then once and it works out to the same answear then it is a proven fact. MATH DOES NOT LIE, you would be foolish to agrue against a proven fact like the earth being round, sort of like arguing that division by zero is possible.
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Binxsy

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2006, 06:08:00 PM »
Did you read that last part?   If the assumption that the Earth is flat is correct, then you should be able to take another point C still further north of B and run the numbers and come up with the same distance. If the numbers don't add up, then the hypothesis is flawed.



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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2006, 06:13:33 PM »
Yeah, I read that.

In real life, the numbers would come out the same.

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2006, 12:01:46 AM »
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Start with point A and point B at a distance d to the north. A makes an angle theta with the sun, and B makes an angle phi. The angle between the hypotenuse of A and the hypotenuse of B is phi - theta. By trigonometric Law of Sines, you should be able to compute the hypotenuses (hypoteni?) of both A and B. And from there, by basic trig, you can compute how high up Mercury's chariot is. If the assumption that the Earth is flat is correct, then you should be able to take another point C still further north of B and run the numbers and come up with the same distance. If the numbers don't add up, then the hypothesis is flawed.


Of course.

I think, if someone performed this experiment, it would prove the sun is 3000 miles above the surface of the flat earth.

Do you have some reason to believe otherwise?


no, the expirament yeilds this result:

The sun is close to 93,000,000 miles away from the earth at any given time. That distance varies though, since Earth orbits the Sun in an eliptical  pattern.
arth is an incorrect spelling of the name of our planet. It's Uarth. Hah!

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 09:58:49 AM »
Call me a skeptic, but I don't think you really performed the experiment.

You aren't just assuming the real results would back up your particular world-view, are you? Because that would be very bad science indeed.

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Binxsy

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2006, 02:24:40 PM »
I have never done this exact experiment but i have done similiar ones, And they all came out proving the earth is a SPHERE.


But once again if this was a valid fact that the earth was flat. You would answear all of my questions, or at least explain why they are wrong. But you people just ignore alot of posts and rant about certain things. This is very bad science you can not ignore a question/ fact that is set before you. When things are explained by that it is goverment propoganda conspiracy conspiracy! All conspiricay is linking seamless unrealted things together> (Da vinci code for expample). You are a fool if this was true you could explain EVERYTHING, not a select few things. Its sort of funny how you can prove the earth is round just by logic, I think arnarchy is a more pratical belief then a falt earth.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN CLAIM SUCH A HUGE COVERUP WOULD BE POSSIBLE. ANY IDIOT COULD STEAL A SMALL PLANE AND GET PRETTY HIGH UP AND SEE THE CUVE OF THE EARHT. ALSO YOU SAID HEAT WAVES DISTORT THE CURVE OF THE EARHT RIGHT? wHAT ABOUT DURNING THE WINTER WERE IT SNOWS?


MILLIONS OF PRIVATE PILOTS FLY EVERYDAY.....
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2006, 03:06:52 PM »
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But you people just ignore alot of posts and rant about certain things. This is very bad science you can not ignore a question/ fact that is set before you.

I personally only ignore stuff that I know has been addressed before, or makes very little sense / doesn't ask a question.

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2006, 07:18:34 AM »
sounds implausible

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Binxsy

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2006, 04:47:47 PM »
Arrogance the wool over the eyes of the foolish and quick to follow
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