here is a question.

Quote from: jmotley on March 05, 2009, 11:02:55 AM

Quote from: EnigmaZV on March 05, 2009, 09:33:12 AM

So you don't agree that clouds stay up because they're lighter than the air below it, like a ping pong ball floats on water?

I agree with that in RET not FET. If clouds are floating above us then an object accelerating rapidly up toward them would hit them. Look at airplanes. They accelerate rapidly into the sky. the clouds dont magicly get higher as the plane get higher.

Planes do indeed hit the clouds.  Every flight I've been on has been above the clouds for at least part of the time.  I don't understand what you're trying to say?

I know they hit the clouds or more accuretly go through the clouds. What I'm trying to say is that the clouds do not magicly rise when a plane approches so why should they when the planet is coming at them far faster then a plane would.

I know they hit the clouds or more accuretly go through the clouds. What I'm trying to say is that the clouds do not magicly rise when a plane approches so why should they when the planet is coming at them far faster then a plane would.

Why does water rise up when you lift the cup, but not when you pull a pin out up from under the surface??

So you don't agree that clouds stay up because they're lighter than the air below it, like a ping pong ball floats on water?

Clouds are probably a little more dense than the air, but the difference is small enough that air currents are more than enough to keep them aloft.  If clouds were lighter than air, then we wouldn't have ground fog, now would we?

Ice floats on water. Thats not really relevant but it kept me interested in science for years; so do battleships, good ones at least.

What keeps the clouds up is the air that is being pushed by the Earth.

Don't worry bowler, the tortoise will save you!

Turtle 

The Earth has to be flat, if it were round I would have fallen off by now.

shakes head in disappointment. may i see some errr proof of this errr flat earth please?

Quote from: bowler on March 04, 2009, 03:05:34 PM

The Earth has to be flat, if it were round I would have fallen off by now.

shakes head in disappointment. may i see some errr proof of this errr flat earth please?

Everything you read on this forum is entirely serious and not sarcastic in any way shape or form. We are all trained scientists who continuously present our entirely legitimate points of view for review by our peers.

Quote from: bootsie on May 06, 2009, 02:55:31 AM

Quote from: bowler on March 04, 2009, 03:05:34 PM

The Earth has to be flat, if it were round I would have fallen off by now.

shakes head in disappointment. may i see some errr proof of this errr flat earth please?

Everything you read on this forum is entirely serious and not sarcastic in any way shape or form. We are all trained scientists who continuously present our entirely legitimate points of view for review by our peers.

Fixed.  BTW, points of view are not evidence.

I would like to make a point regarding telescopes seeing distances. Now i have one but its not enormously special, just like taking a look at a few things in the night sky every so often. Now my uncle has an enormously expensive obervatory-class telescope, and has a wide array of lenses for it. Several of which are daytime lenses. Now these actually work to block out atmospheric influences so you can see further on land. Now i have never used the best of his daytime lenses, but i have used the smaller ones, and yes they do work to see further on land. Now in a flat earth, with his best daytime lenses, couldnt I see New Zealand?