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Gravity- how does it work ?

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Flatround

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Gravity- how does it work ?
« on: January 18, 2009, 02:37:49 PM »
Help I'm knew to this flat earth, but i think it's a nice idea. But i have some problems. In the FAQ you klaim that gravity is a hoax.
 
"Q: "What about gravity?"

A: Dark Energy accelerates the Earth and all celestial bodies in the universe at 9.8m/s2. This is commonly known as Universal Acceleration. This produces the same effect as gravity. General relativity uses this concept to explain the equivalence between proper acceleration and gravity. "
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My Q: When the moon and the stars have gravity, dosen't that as a konceqvens of newtons 3. law result in the destruktion of earth?

2 Q: Why is the gravityacceleration on equator and in the US diffrent. We are talking 9,82 and 9,80. (testet with a spring and a let, no NASA involvment)?

3 Q: Last, with no gravity how does he moon and sun revolve around the world?

Thank you for your time..
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 08:22:39 PM »
See, this is why RE'ers make me laugh.  They can't even get their own theory straight.
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Flatround

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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 11:02:57 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on January 18, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
See, this is why RE'ers make me laugh.  They can't even get their own theory straight.

Im trying to get some real answers, and if you can't answer the questions then please don't post. thank you... I really think it's essensial questions.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2009, 04:39:07 AM »
Quote from: Flatround on January 18, 2009, 02:37:49 PM
3 Q: Last, with no gravity how does he moon and sun revolve around the world?
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 05:05:01 AM »
Classic.
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Flatround

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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 07:35:43 AM »
Yes, you are right if i was talking about RET, but in the FET the sun and moon revolve around the earth's centrum.. Or else i have really missed a point. The question is how does the son and moon revolve without a central pull force... I'm sorry for the miss under standing.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 12:10:27 PM »
Quote from: Flatround on January 19, 2009, 07:35:43 AM
Yes, you are right if i was talking about RET, but in the FET the sun and moon revolve around the earth's centrum.. Or else i have really missed a point. The question is how does the son and moon revolve without a central pull force... I'm sorry for the miss under standing.

I think what they're trying to say is that the sun does not revolve around the earth even in RET.

I think you're a little confused.
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Flatround

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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 01:23:15 PM »
Yes, but i'm not talking about the RE... I'm trying to learn about FE =)
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 05:16:17 PM »
The sun and moon orbit above the FE, not around it.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2009, 04:27:21 AM »
Quote from: markjo on January 19, 2009, 05:16:17 PM
The sun and moon orbit above the FE, not around it.

Dont forget the submoon, which orbits below it.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2009, 04:28:47 AM »
And the antimoon/shadow object.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2009, 06:12:52 AM »
And let's not forget the mysterious repulsive force that keeps these objects from crashing into the FE.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2009, 06:38:37 AM »
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2009, 06:12:52 AM
And let's not forget the mysterious repulsive force that keeps these objects from crashing into the FE.
And the mysterious repulsive force that accelerates all matter away from the earth at an increasing rate in RE theory.

(Oh snap, no he di'in't)
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2009, 11:44:39 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Davis on January 20, 2009, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2009, 06:12:52 AM
And let's not forget the mysterious repulsive force that keeps these objects from crashing into the FE.
And the mysterious repulsive force that accelerates all matter away from the earth galaxies away from each other at an increasing rate in RE theory.

(Oh snap, no he di'in't)

Fixed that for you.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2009, 03:15:45 PM »
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2009, 11:44:39 AM
Quote from: Mr. Davis on January 20, 2009, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2009, 06:12:52 AM
And let's not forget the mysterious repulsive force that keeps these objects from crashing into the FE.
And the mysterious repulsive force that accelerates all matter away from the earth galaxies away from each other at an increasing rate in RE theory.

(Oh snap, no he di'in't)

Fixed that for you.
No, it applies to all matter, obviously.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2009, 03:27:28 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Davis on January 20, 2009, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2009, 11:44:39 AM
Quote from: Mr. Davis on January 20, 2009, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: markjo on January 20, 2009, 06:12:52 AM
And let's not forget the mysterious repulsive force that keeps these objects from crashing into the FE.
And the mysterious repulsive force that accelerates all matter away from the earth galaxies away from each other at an increasing rate in RE theory.

(Oh snap, no he di'in't)

Fixed that for you.
No, it applies to all matter, obviously.

Reference(s) please.  I've only heard of theories where dark matter/energy affects galaxies, not star systems within galaxies.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2009, 05:05:49 PM »
The large gravitational wells of galaxies prevent them from expanding due to dark energy, just as EM forces keep you from collapsing due to gravitation.

It is unknown whether dark energy is uniform over all space or not, (but it does seem so from current observations), so it is unknown if dark energy acts on all matter equally.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 02:14:39 AM »
Quote from: Euclid on January 20, 2009, 05:05:49 PM
The large gravitational wells of galaxies prevent them from expanding due to dark energy, just as EM forces keep you from collapsing due to gravitation.

Wrong. EM forces, the attraction of charges, would actually help your constituent atoms to collapse in on themselves rather than prevent such an undignified end. It is the quantised nature of energies within atoms and their orbitals, and in turn molecules and their orbitals, which maintains the structure of atoms/molecules. Besides which since gravitation is a product of mass, at the atomic/molecular level it is so weak as to be ignorable.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 04:45:37 AM »
What about the repelling of like charges?
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2009, 07:49:40 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on January 21, 2009, 04:45:37 AM
What about the repelling of like charges?

That would be an equally undignified end. The strong nuclear force binds neutrons and protons in the nucleas, overcoming the repulsion of like and like charges. But again, gravity/gravitation is irrelevant at such scales.
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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2009, 11:21:02 AM »
Quote from: cracrat on January 21, 2009, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: TheEngineer on January 21, 2009, 04:45:37 AM
What about the repelling of like charges?

That would be an equally undignified end. The strong nuclear force binds neutrons and protons in the nucleas, overcoming the repulsion of like and like charges. But again, gravity/gravitation is irrelevant at such scales.

Good thing you have to be 10^-15 m in before it takes effect.

Quote from: cracrat on January 21, 2009, 02:14:39 AM
Quote from: Euclid on January 20, 2009, 05:05:49 PM
The large gravitational wells of galaxies prevent them from expanding due to dark energy, just as EM forces keep you from collapsing due to gravitation.

Wrong. EM forces, the attraction of charges, would actually help your constituent atoms to collapse in on themselves rather than prevent such an undignified end. It is the quantised nature of energies within atoms and their orbitals, and in turn molecules and their orbitals, which maintains the structure of atoms/molecules. Besides which since gravitation is a product of mass, at the atomic/molecular level it is so weak as to be ignorable.

So what keeps me from collapsing when I am standing up?  9.8 m/s^2 is quite noticeable.
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Flatround

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Re: Gravity- how does it work ?
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2009, 02:53:43 PM »
I like to say that neither of you have answerd my questions. Does that mean that you don't know?
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