How the Earth has been formed to become "Flat" ?

what happened to my post here? It got deleted? I guess it's har to establish any kinda proof.... When ou guys don't like something, let's just delete it?

what happened to my post here? It got deleted? I guess it's har to establish any kinda proof.... When ou guys don't like something, let's just delete it?

I've noticed the same thing... probably because earth flat belivers don't want to admit that you are right. So they just delete your post, isn't another one proof that earth flat belivers are wrong?

Why is Earth flat?
Wizard magic, pure, simple wizard magic.

You are right, Tom, that wing is curved upwards. However, if the lens is causing the Earth to appear curved, then that wing, being further from the centre line of the photo will be distorted more, so it should appear curved downwards, but it isn't now is it. That means that the lens is not distorting the image enough to give the effect of a curved Earth if it really was flat, and that we can take the image as it appears. Since we can take the image as it appears, it shows a definite curvature of the Earth, hence the Earth is curved.

You really don't know a thing about photography do you...

Nope. Wings on an airplane can curve both upwards and downwards depending on conditions. It's impossible to tell the orientation of the wing in that photo.

I've been on international flights and I've never seen curvature to the earth. TheEngineer, the pilot who posts on these forums hasn't, either.

Quote from: Edtharan on December 29, 2008, 05:28:58 AM

You are right, Tom, that wing is curved upwards. However, if the lens is causing the Earth to appear curved, then that wing, being further from the centre line of the photo will be distorted more, so it should appear curved downwards, but it isn't now is it. That means that the lens is not distorting the image enough to give the effect of a curved Earth if it really was flat, and that we can take the image as it appears. Since we can take the image as it appears, it shows a definite curvature of the Earth, hence the Earth is curved.

You really don't know a thing about photography do you...

Nope. Wings on an airplane can curve both upwards and downwards depending on conditions. It's impossible to tell the orientation of the wing in that photo.

I've been on international flights and I've never seen curvature to the earth. TheEngineer, the pilot who posts on these forums hasn't, either.

Yes if you conditions Flying and stationary on the ground as conditions.

See, the wings of a plane are what lift the plane in the air. they are being forced up by air pressure (caused by their shape). They curve up during flight because they are being lifted and metal (aluminium) is slightly flexible (along with some of the joints - to at least account for expansion and contraction due to temperature).

If Plane wings were stiff enough not to flex, they would shatter under the load that they are subject to.

Nope. Wings on an airplane can curve both upwards and downwards depending on conditions. It's impossible to tell the orientation of the wing in that photo.

If a supercritical wing on a jumbo flexes downwards, it means you have lost lift completely and are experiencing a 'tip' or 'root' stall. The plane will cease to fly, usually plummeting very dramatically.

If a supercritical wing on a jumbo flexes downwards, it means you have lost lift completely and are experiencing a 'tip' or 'root' stall. The plane will cease to fly, usually plummeting very dramatically.

Wrong. Wings bent downwards can still fly. Just look at the wings of birds.

Quote from: The Yellow on January 08, 2009, 03:09:37 AM

If a supercritical wing on a jumbo flexes downwards, it means you have lost lift completely and are experiencing a 'tip' or 'root' stall. The plane will cease to fly, usually plummeting very dramatically.

Wrong. Wings bent downwards can still fly. Just look at the wings of birds.

Wings of birds are different to that of a plane, mainly in that they flap to gain thrust. However, if you look at the wing of a bird that is gliding (so it is more line a plane), the wing always curves upwards. the reason that a bird's wing curves downwards in a flap is to use the force generates by this reversal of curvature (it takes effort to curve it downwards) in doing transferring energy form that effort into forwards motion.

Wings of birds are different to that of a plane, mainly in that they flap to gain thrust. However, if you look at the wing of a bird that is gliding (so it is more line a plane), the wing always curves upwards.

I've seen birds gliding. The wings are always bent downwards. The feathers are bent downwards and cupped to create lift.

http://www.grahamowengallery.com/photography/birds/bird-album/osprey-flying-2.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nO3FOWetpYY/RrOKTKtydnI/AAAAAAAAAww/onP-OdeA3mw/s800/Figure%20129.jpg

Quote: a "pilot" in a Tim Bishop post

"I believe I said that I put myself through college working for an airline, thus having access to free flights around the world.  I also worked for a private FBO, in which the owner owned a
Cessna Citation
I am also a licensed pilot.  Not once, during any of the hundreds if not thousands of flights I've been on, have I ever witnessed the curvature of the Earth."

The curvature of the earth is not visible at the heights that a light aircraft like a Cessna would fly without serious problems, although this is a Jet and pressurized. the picture presented earlier actually showing the curve of the earth was taken in a commercial liner and therefore was able to be high enough to see the earth curve



Looking at this image you can clearly see no ice wall, no mountains, no other planes. Just the horizon.











 Looking at the experiments of this so called scientist trying to prove there is no horizon was only conducted at a distance of 6 miles, where he as concluded at six miles a ship will not vanish. Six Miles. That is inadequate evidence that the world is flat. If it was we would be able to in the right circumstances see :
1: Every Plane in the sky.
2: every mountain on earth.
3: Every ship at sea
4: we would be able to see every star above us at the same time, instead we see only separate hemispheres at different seasons.

Please explain this an i would be willing to try to believe you but i still feel logically you can not pin this all down to conspiracy.

The curvature of the earth is not visible at the heights that a light aircraft like a Cessna would fly without serious problems, although this is a Jet and pressurized. the picture presented earlier actually showing the curve of the earth was taken in a commercial liner and therefore was able to be high enough to see the earth curve

I believe TheEngineer said that the owner of his airport owned a Cessna, not that his only experience in a plane was in a Cessna.

Looking at this image you can clearly see no ice wall, no mountains, no other planes. Just the horizon.

The horizon just disappears into a fog of atmosphere. There is no curvature there. Just fog.

http://i41.tinypic.com/b7mgza.jpg

Looking at the experiments of this so called scientist trying to prove there is no horizon was only conducted at a distance of 6 miles, where he as concluded at six miles a ship will not vanish. Six Miles. That is inadequate evidence that the world is flat. If it was we would be able to in the right circumstances see :
1: Every Plane in the sky.
2: every mountain on earth.
3: Every ship at sea
4: we would be able to see every star above us at the same time, instead we see only separate hemispheres at different seasons.

Please explain this an i would be willing to try to believe you but i still feel logically you can not pin this all down to conspiracy.

The atmosphere is not perfectly transparent.

I got to give u FE's a hand. When I read that "Thus, since the force of gravity does not exist, we can conclude that the surface of the Earth is accelerating upward..."(from "Fictitious Forces") I just began laughing. The question I pose is this: do you guys honestly believe this, or is this a ruse from a brilliant comedy troupe?

So Einstein was wrong?

Einstein wasn't wrong, you have merely mangled and misrepresented his explanation of the warping of spacetime to fit your narrow-minded views.

Einstein said we are not at rest, but are being accelerated up by the mechanical resistance of the Earth (that is, the accelerating surface).

So, is he wrong about that?

Einstein gave an explanation for gravity. He said that it isn't the attraction of two masses, so much as the curvature of spacetime causing the geometry of space to warp. He didn't say the Earth is moving upward and is flat and thats what causes the apparent existence of gravity. Why would he explain something that isn't the result of what he says? In fact, it seems that you have merely read a few articles on the subject, and you cut and pasted sentences together, while ommitting neccessary parts of the works you mention, preying on the public's ignorance of the works of Einstein. Also, you say in "Fictional Forces" that the reader should note the difference between gravity and gravitation, yet they are synonymous. Are you intentionally attempting to confuse less-learned readers?

I'm not gonna waste my time debating with someone who is totally ignorant in physics. Once you are fully educated on said subject, you will understand why the answer to my question is "No".

And I always thought that the FE best proof was

It's a conspiracy.

Now I see you have the "You're ignorant." evidence as well.

Just pretend we aren't all ignorant for a minute. Now try proving it to us or show us were Einsteins says the earth is flat.

Quote from: Edtharan on December 29, 2008, 05:28:58 AM

You are right, Tom, that wing is curved upwards. However, if the lens is causing the Earth to appear curved, then that wing, being further from the centre line of the photo will be distorted more, so it should appear curved downwards, but it isn't now is it. That means that the lens is not distorting the image enough to give the effect of a curved Earth if it really was flat, and that we can take the image as it appears. Since we can take the image as it appears, it shows a definite curvature of the Earth, hence the Earth is curved.

You really don't know a thing about photography do you...

Nope. Wings on an airplane can curve both upwards and downwards depending on conditions. It's impossible to tell the orientation of the wing in that photo.

I've been on international flights and I've never seen curvature to the earth. TheEngineer, the pilot who posts on these forums hasn't, either.

seems like you and your engineer are looking in some other direction