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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2008, 11:39:50 AM »
Yeah its tradition to tell every newcomer to read the FAQ. Repeatedly.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2008, 11:41:33 AM »
Quote from: Sexual Harassment Panda on December 13, 2008, 11:36:27 AM
Aren't you supposed to be helping the noobs? Wile it is obvious now that he was a temporary troll, isn't better to do what the others did rather than wasting time telling him to read the faq twice.
This is coming from someone who contributes nothing of value to the forum whatsoever...

Why should we waste time explaining to obvious trolls in detail what is already available for easy viewing in the FAQ? Why bother even having an FAQ then?
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2008, 11:41:54 AM »
Quote from: Colonel Gaydafi on December 13, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
Yeah its tradition to tell every newcomer to read the FAQ. Repeatedly.

This, until they rage from the eye-balls.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2008, 11:47:21 AM »
Quote from: Guessed on December 13, 2008, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Colonel Gaydafi on December 13, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
Yeah its tradition to tell every newcomer to read the FAQ. Repeatedly.

This, until they rage from the eye-balls.

Or they actually read it and stop asking stupid questions.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2008, 11:50:11 AM »
Quote from: Colonel Gaydafi on December 13, 2008, 11:47:21 AM
Quote from: Guessed on December 13, 2008, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Colonel Gaydafi on December 13, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
Yeah its tradition to tell every newcomer to read the FAQ. Repeatedly.

This, until they rage from the eye-balls.

Or they actually read it and stop asking stupid questions.

Exactly, win-win as I see it.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2008, 12:40:56 PM »
Quote from: Sexual Harassment Panda on December 12, 2008, 02:14:29 PM
OK, here is something that has really disturbed me. As I was going through the forums, I came across some new mods. One I saw was Raist, which is fine, because he is smart and can contribute well to conversations and debates. The other though, was very difficult to comprehend. I have yet to see a productive post from Dead Kangaroo and all I have seen is spam. This made me think of something. Do you remember that mod named Robosteve? Ya, that guy, the one that was de-modded recently for his spam. So in conclusion, I was wondering, why all the hypocrisy all of a sudden with these anti spam laws but then modding a non productive poster, right after someone was demodded for spamming. Please, enlighten me with the reasoning behind this madness.
I've been here a while and recently started contributing in the serious boards. Daniel chose me through PMs, I didn't ask for it. Don't get me wrong I am very grateful for this opportunity and I will try my best to keep the peace.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2008, 12:50:18 PM »
Quote from: Sexual Harassment Panda on December 12, 2008, 02:14:29 PM
OK, here is something that has really disturbed me. As I was going through the forums, I came across some new mods. One I saw was Raist, which is fine, because he is smart and can contribute well to conversations and debates. The other though, was very difficult to comprehend. I have yet to see a productive post from Dead Kangaroo and all I have seen is spam. This made me think of something. Do you remember that mod named Robosteve? Ya, that guy, the one that was de-modded recently for his spam. So in conclusion, I was wondering, why all the hypocrisy all of a sudden with these anti spam laws but then modding a non productive poster, right after someone was demodded for spamming. Please, enlighten me with the reasoning behind this madness.

I understand what you're saying, but I still feel that DK was a good choice for mod.  I modded DK based on his contributions to the forums a while back.  I realise that things have been a bit different lately but he's assured me that we'll be seeing the old Dead Kangaroo that we all knew and loved. :)
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2008, 01:11:33 PM »
But Kanga has the tendency to disappear for months on end.

Oh wait, so do you Daniel. Nevermind.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2008, 02:08:53 PM »
Quote from: Cheryl Wiesbaden on December 13, 2008, 11:33:37 AM
It was a perfectly valid response and the new user deserved no better. He clearly had not read the FAQ.

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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2008, 08:24:56 PM »
Quote from: Sexual Harassment Panda on December 13, 2008, 10:52:04 AM
NO ONE IS POSTING IN NORMAL FUCKING SUB-FORUMS!!!!!! ITS ALL IN COMPLETE NONSENSE AND ANGRY RANTING.
Then I guess that's a good thing.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2008, 08:30:54 PM »
Quote from: Sexual Harassment Panda on December 13, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
Try the thoughts thread. Yes it was derailed a while ago, but then the mods continued to spam it.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=24612.40
 
I posted that before I was a mod. While drunk too I believe. It died before I posted that.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM »
I just found this thread.  First of all, thanks to all the new mods, especially Hara.  I'm ashamed to admit that I hadn't heard of his diplomacy with the raiding forum, but I just read his posts on the site, and I'm extremely impressed.  Hara reminds me of Engy in his old glory days.  Well done. :-*

I have two issues that I wish to discuss.  First of all, as many people have already noted, there doesn't seem to be much debate in the FE forums going on, outside of noobs asking questions clearly covered in the FAQ.  This might seem a little awkward, but I recommend that a few members should return to debating for the RE side and try to poke a few holes in FET.  That might inspire some more intelligent debate from noobs, and of course we'd be able to strengthen our own theory if we can explain away any new flaws.

The second problem is alts.  Part of the blame surely lies with me, as I'm pretty sure that my classics "NASA Agent", "Thomas Bishop", "Eric Bloedow is back", and of course, "Anne Bloedow" helped inspire the recent alt-fest.  With the new rules, coupled with the departure of Vauxy and Robo, most of the alts have probably been banned by now.  However, there still could be a few alts floating out there that survived the carnage.  Is there any way that we can enforce the no-alt rule, or figure out who's an alt or not?
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2008, 05:24:48 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
I just found this thread.  First of all, thanks to all the new mods, especially Hara.  I'm ashamed to admit that I hadn't heard of his diplomacy with the raiding forum, but I just read his posts on the site, and I'm extremely impressed.  Hara reminds me of Engy in his old glory days.  Well done. :-*

Amazingly, they still talk about us there. Hah.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
I have two issues that I wish to discuss.  First of all, as many people have already noted, there doesn't seem to be much debate in the FE forums going on, outside of noobs asking questions clearly covered in the FAQ.  This might seem a little awkward, but I recommend that a few members should return to debating for the RE side and try to poke a few holes in FET.  That might inspire some more intelligent debate from noobs, and of course we'd be able to strengthen our own theory if we can explain away any new flaws.

Blame the economy.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
The second problem is alts.  Part of the blame surely lies with me, as I'm pretty sure that my classics "NASA Agent", "Thomas Bishop", "Eric Bloedow is back", and of course, "Anne Bloedow" helped inspire the recent alt-fest.  With the new rules, coupled with the departure of Vauxy and Robo, most of the alts have probably been banned by now.  However, there still could be a few alts floating out there that survived the carnage.  Is there any way that we can enforce the no-alt rule, or figure out who's an alt or not?

It's something that's being worked on. However, I think everything is ok now.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2008, 02:57:42 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
However, there still could be a few alts floating out there that survived the carnage.  Is there any way that we can enforce the no-alt rule, or figure out who's an alt or not?

The "No Alts" rule is difficult to fully enforce.  As it stands now, we're not actively hunting them.  But if someone seems like an alt, we'll check IPs.  Then, of course, there are proxies to deal with.  So basically, we're making a reasonable effort to keep them to a minimum but we know it'll never be 100% perfect.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2008, 04:09:29 PM »
Were all the angry noobs we used to play with in AR actually alts?  We are suffering from a severe shortage of angry noob.
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I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2008, 05:46:17 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 22, 2008, 04:09:29 PM
Were all the angry noobs we used to play with in AR actually alts?  We are suffering from a severe shortage of angry noob.

>can play the angry noob if you want, as long as I don't get banned for it.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM »
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2008, 06:11:00 PM »
Yeah, fake angry noob is no fun, that's why the alts sucked.  4chan noobs suck too, cause they're not interested in convincing anyone that the earth is round.
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2008, 06:12:12 PM »
Dawkins.com? I could bump our thread on the QI forum, too. Dammit, where do smart people go on the Internet that isn't here?
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2008, 06:18:04 PM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.

Don't give anyone any ideas!
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2008, 06:20:18 PM »
I dunno.. does anyone have an acct at SciForums? They'd probably delete a thread advertising this forum, but someone could probably sneak a link into Free Thoughts.  

http://www.sciforums.com/
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I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2008, 06:28:24 PM »
You obviously missed this vital bit: "Average registrations per day: 10.45"

I recommend letting them come to us.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2008, 02:25:08 PM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.

Make sure I'm warned well in advance so I have time to travel to whoever's going to link us on 4chan and kill that person ahead of time.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2008, 03:37:03 PM »
Quote from: Daniel on December 23, 2008, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.

Make sure I'm warned well in advance so I have time to travel to whoever's going to link us on 4chan and kill that person ahead of time.

Why not just kill the 4Chan community? That'd be even more satisfying and a great service to society.
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Quote from: Baseball4Life on April 16, 2010, 09:54:41 AM
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2008, 10:59:34 PM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 23, 2008, 03:37:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel on December 23, 2008, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.

Make sure I'm warned well in advance so I have time to travel to whoever's going to link us on 4chan and kill that person ahead of time.

Why not just kill the 4Chan community? That'd be even more satisfying and a great service to society.

http://pedofield1942.ytmnsfw.com/
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2009, 06:01:51 PM »
Quote from: Daniel on December 23, 2008, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.

Make sure I'm warned well in advance so I have time to travel to whoever's going to link us on 4chan and kill that person ahead of time.
+∞

Quote from: General Douchebag on December 23, 2008, 03:37:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel on December 23, 2008, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on December 22, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
It's not as fun if they're fake. Can somebody link to us from 4Chan? If you do, for the love of God warn us, particularly the mods.

Make sure I'm warned well in advance so I have time to travel to whoever's going to link us on 4chan and kill that person ahead of time.

Why not just kill the 4Chan community? That'd be even more satisfying and a great service to society.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2009, 05:43:42 AM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
I just found this thread.  First of all, thanks to all the new mods, especially Hara.  I'm ashamed to admit that I hadn't heard of his diplomacy with the raiding forum, but I just read his posts on the site, and I'm extremely impressed.  Hara reminds me of Engy in his old glory days.  Well done. :-*

I have two issues that I wish to discuss.  First of all, as many people have already noted, there doesn't seem to be much debate in the FE forums going on, outside of noobs asking questions clearly covered in the FAQ.  This might seem a little awkward, but I recommend that a few members should return to debating for the RE side and try to poke a few holes in FET.  That might inspire some more intelligent debate from noobs, and of course we'd be able to strengthen our own theory if we can explain away any new flaws.

The second problem is alts.  Part of the blame surely lies with me, as I'm pretty sure that my classics "NASA Agent", "Thomas Bishop", "Eric Bloedow is back", and of course, "Anne Bloedow" helped inspire the recent alt-fest.  With the new rules, coupled with the departure of Vauxy and Robo, most of the alts have probably been banned by now.  However, there still could be a few alts floating out there that survived the carnage.  Is there any way that we can enforce the no-alt rule, or figure out who's an alt or not?

I haven't really been on the debate forums recently except for the occasional comment.  I wouldn't mind going back and attempting to seriously debate RE (I was thinking of switching to FE, but I don't feel like dealing with noobs.)

Recently it has been pretty boring on there, most serious discussions get derailed by either side.  Most recently was the sun on the equinox thread.  I would love to go back and debate, however I would like to request that the moderators start being a bit more strict on attempts to derail a serious thread, from either side.

Thanks.
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2009, 06:27:37 AM »
Quote from: ragnarr on January 16, 2009, 05:43:42 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
I just found this thread.  First of all, thanks to all the new mods, especially Hara.  I'm ashamed to admit that I hadn't heard of his diplomacy with the raiding forum, but I just read his posts on the site, and I'm extremely impressed.  Hara reminds me of Engy in his old glory days.  Well done. :-*

I have two issues that I wish to discuss.  First of all, as many people have already noted, there doesn't seem to be much debate in the FE forums going on, outside of noobs asking questions clearly covered in the FAQ.  This might seem a little awkward, but I recommend that a few members should return to debating for the RE side and try to poke a few holes in FET.  That might inspire some more intelligent debate from noobs, and of course we'd be able to strengthen our own theory if we can explain away any new flaws.

The second problem is alts.  Part of the blame surely lies with me, as I'm pretty sure that my classics "NASA Agent", "Thomas Bishop", "Eric Bloedow is back", and of course, "Anne Bloedow" helped inspire the recent alt-fest.  With the new rules, coupled with the departure of Vauxy and Robo, most of the alts have probably been banned by now.  However, there still could be a few alts floating out there that survived the carnage.  Is there any way that we can enforce the no-alt rule, or figure out who's an alt or not?

I haven't really been on the debate forums recently except for the occasional comment.  I wouldn't mind going back and attempting to seriously debate RE (I was thinking of switching to FE, but I don't feel like dealing with noobs.)

Recently it has been pretty boring on there, most serious discussions get derailed by either side.  Most recently was the sun on the equinox thread.  I would love to go back and debate, however I would like to request that the moderators start being a bit more strict on attempts to derail a serious thread, from either side.

Thanks.

The thing is this is tricky to do since discussions in the serious debate Forums can diverge widely from the initial topic and still be serious debates (generally this happens when someone from either side raises an answer to the initial query topic that relies on a premise someone finds questionable and the debate then turns to the truth of that premise)

Still I think you'll find there are several good ongoing discussions in the serious debate forums

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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2009, 02:12:42 AM »
Quote from: Cinlef on January 16, 2009, 06:27:37 AM
Quote from: ragnarr on January 16, 2009, 05:43:42 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on December 21, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
I just found this thread.  First of all, thanks to all the new mods, especially Hara.  I'm ashamed to admit that I hadn't heard of his diplomacy with the raiding forum, but I just read his posts on the site, and I'm extremely impressed.  Hara reminds me of Engy in his old glory days.  Well done. :-*

I have two issues that I wish to discuss.  First of all, as many people have already noted, there doesn't seem to be much debate in the FE forums going on, outside of noobs asking questions clearly covered in the FAQ.  This might seem a little awkward, but I recommend that a few members should return to debating for the RE side and try to poke a few holes in FET.  That might inspire some more intelligent debate from noobs, and of course we'd be able to strengthen our own theory if we can explain away any new flaws.

The second problem is alts.  Part of the blame surely lies with me, as I'm pretty sure that my classics "NASA Agent", "Thomas Bishop", "Eric Bloedow is back", and of course, "Anne Bloedow" helped inspire the recent alt-fest.  With the new rules, coupled with the departure of Vauxy and Robo, most of the alts have probably been banned by now.  However, there still could be a few alts floating out there that survived the carnage.  Is there any way that we can enforce the no-alt rule, or figure out who's an alt or not?

I haven't really been on the debate forums recently except for the occasional comment.  I wouldn't mind going back and attempting to seriously debate RE (I was thinking of switching to FE, but I don't feel like dealing with noobs.)

Recently it has been pretty boring on there, most serious discussions get derailed by either side.  Most recently was the sun on the equinox thread.  I would love to go back and debate, however I would like to request that the moderators start being a bit more strict on attempts to derail a serious thread, from either side.

Thanks.

The thing is this is tricky to do since discussions in the serious debate Forums can diverge widely from the initial topic and still be serious debates (generally this happens when someone from either side raises an answer to the initial query topic that relies on a premise someone finds questionable and the debate then turns to the truth of that premise)

Still I think you'll find there are several good ongoing discussions in the serious debate forums

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With your sig even when you are threatening you still seem too happy so my issue is that. Be meaner sometimes, but just not to me  ;D
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Re: Issues and Concerns
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2009, 03:08:41 PM »
Why exactly was KingMan banned?  I'm not trying to baw, but I don't see how he violated any rules.  It looks like he was banned following an exchange with Hara in the "post an image of yourself" thread, which dissolved into personal attacks back and forth.  Suddenly, KingMan showed up in an alt to announce that he had been banned.

Yes, KingMan wasn't very good at debating, and he held some bizarre views, but I don't recall him ever being intentionally disruptive.  All we had were vague suspicions that he was trolling.  But even if he wasn't really so evangelical, is there a rule against pretending that he was?  Oscar was not only permitted to stay, but was actively supported by the mods when he pretended to be a lesbian.  Some members here have cast doubt on whether or not I am truly Saddam Hussein, but I've never got into trouble over it.  And let's not forget Narcberry, who was far more of a troll than KingMan, yet when he was finally banned, it was because of his spamming and insulting members.

If I've made a mistake or misjudged the situation, then I'm sorry.  I usually support the mods, but I can't help getting a feeling that KingMan was banned out of personal dislike.
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