Issues and Concerns

I am making this thread the official thread to discuss any concerns you may have. By 'concerns', we mean issues with your profile, issues with other users, disputes over moderation, or any other kind of complaint, grievence or problem you may have. All new threads regarding any issue on the forums will be redirected here, and either simply merged to this one or locked, it's up to the mod who decides to deal with it.

The rules for this thread are simple:

- No flaming. ANY FLAME POSTS will be deleted and the offender will be dealt with at the discretion of the staff.
- Intelligent posting only. Posts that consist of "tl;dr", "lol", etc will be deleted.
- Common Sense is a must. Follow the usual rules as well. Don't be stupid.

Thank you, Hara.  This thread will be great for posting any questions or concerns regarding any actions of the mods.  Keep the bashing out and you have a place where people can discuss and come to an understanding with one another.

If you're going to do the right thing, be sure not to admit to it. Otherwise, everyone will hate you.

So here's what I'd like to see happen:
Mods being a little less strict about the rules.  For as far back as I remember, General Discussion has been for serious random discussion, Everything Else was for random shit, and Complete Nonsense was for stupid stuff that didn't belong anywhere else.  General Discussion has never been about Flat Earth, that's what Debate and Discussion is for, really.

Also, members should stop trolling.  The forums are shitted up already, and are dying.  Spend a little more time in the Debate forums, respond to noobish questions, maybe even start your own FE debate.

Bring the forums back to life, guys.  Old FES FTW.

Thank you, Hara.  This thread will be great for posting any questions or concerns regarding any actions of the mods.  Keep the bashing out and you have a place where people can discuss and come to an understanding with one another.

And on that very issue, seeing as I was unable to respond to Hara's last post, he will of course take back what he said in this post, now that it's clear that I wasn't criticising his punishment of Vauxhall. I'm sure he'll also acknowledge that I can in fact read, and that given I've been at these forums nearly twice as long as him and yet have a third of his post count, I satisfy the criteria for lurking as well.


You know, just to clear the air.

If you're going to do the right thing, be sure not to admit to it. Otherwise, everyone will hate you.

You stole my quote you son of a bitch!

 But yes, Hara, what T.T (allegedly) said.

Quote from: Moonlit on December 12, 2008, 09:51:30 AM

Thank you, Hara.  This thread will be great for posting any questions or concerns regarding any actions of the mods.  Keep the bashing out and you have a place where people can discuss and come to an understanding with one another.

And on that very issue, seeing as I was unable to respond to Hara's last post, he will of course take back what he said in this post, now that it's clear that I wasn't criticising his punishment of Vauxhall. I'm sure he'll also acknowledge that I can in fact read, and that given I've been at these forums nearly twice as long as him and yet have a third of his post count, I satisfy the criteria for lurking as well.


You know, just to clear the air.

Sure.

So here's what I'd like to see happen:
Mods being a little less strict about the rules.  For as far back as I remember, General Discussion has been for serious random discussion, Everything Else was for random shit, and Complete Nonsense was for stupid stuff that didn't belong anywhere else.  General Discussion has never been about Flat Earth, that's what Debate and Discussion is for, really.

The strictness is to make sure the rules are observed for a while, there are still stragglers, and until it's under control, we have to keep up on it as tight as we can. We'll probably lax up a bit, but when we do, we're hoping it wont be taken advantage of. Also, Daniel wanted to change around what each forum is designed for. I'm hoping he'll alter the sub-descriptions to fit now. We wont prune out the old threads, but any new threads should follow suite with what is in the revised rules.

Quote from: T.T. Monsieur on December 12, 2008, 09:53:10 AM

If you're going to do the right thing, be sure not to admit to it. Otherwise, everyone will hate you.

You stole my quote you son of a bitch!

 But yes, Hara, what T.T (allegedly) said.

So it's better for me to not take responsibility publicly for my actions? That's not really my style, but ok.

Most excellent.

Quote from: T.T. Monsieur on December 12, 2008, 09:53:10 AM

If you're going to do the right thing, be sure not to admit to it. Otherwise, everyone will hate you.

You stole my quote you son of a bitch!

I was going to give you the credit, but then I thought better.

Quote from: Guessed on December 12, 2008, 09:56:57 AM

Quote from: T.T. Monsieur on December 12, 2008, 09:53:10 AM

If you're going to do the right thing, be sure not to admit to it. Otherwise, everyone will hate you.

You stole my quote you son of a bitch!

I was going to give you the credit, but then I thought better.

Well fair enough, carry on then.

Quote from: Trekky0623 on December 12, 2008, 09:54:48 AM

So here's what I'd like to see happen:
Mods being a little less strict about the rules.  For as far back as I remember, General Discussion has been for serious random discussion, Everything Else was for random shit, and Complete Nonsense was for stupid stuff that didn't belong anywhere else.  General Discussion has never been about Flat Earth, that's what Debate and Discussion is for, really.

The strictness is to make sure the rules are observed for a while, there are still stragglers, and until it's under control, we have to keep up on it as tight as we can. We'll probably lax up a bit, but when we do, we're hoping it wont be taken advantage of. Also, Daniel wanted to change around what each forum is designed for. I'm hoping he'll alter the sub-descriptions to fit now. We wont prune out the old threads, but any new threads should follow suite with what is in the revised rules.

All right, but can we at least rename General Discussion to something like Flat Earth Discussion and move it up with the other Flat Earth stuff.

And maybe move Everything Else to the top of the second list, that'd be nice too.

So it's better for me to not take responsibility publicly for my actions? That's not really my style, but ok.

We were actually commending you. You forget that not all of us are against the FES administration.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on December 12, 2008, 09:57:05 AM

So it's better for me to not take responsibility publicly for my actions? That's not really my style, but ok.

We were actually commending you. You forget that not all of us are against the FES administration.

QFT, we were trying to say that you're getting bad press for doing what needs to be done.

All right, but can we at least rename General Discussion to something like Flat Earth Discussion and move it up with the other Flat Earth stuff.

And maybe move Everything Else to the top of the second list, that'd be nice too.

Maybe move General Discussion as it is right into the FE part of the board? That might clear things up a bit and make it more obvious that it's for things like "hey, look at the article BBC wrote about FES" and the like, no?

Quote from: T.T. Monsieur on December 12, 2008, 10:15:39 AM

Quote from: Hara Taiki on December 12, 2008, 09:57:05 AM

So it's better for me to not take responsibility publicly for my actions? That's not really my style, but ok.

We were actually commending you. You forget that not all of us are against the FES administration.

QFT, we were trying to say that you're getting bad press for doing what needs to be done.

Kids don't like play pens.

Indeed they don't, but nobody likes a cluster-fuck.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on December 12, 2008, 09:57:05 AM

Quote from: Trekky0623 on December 12, 2008, 09:54:48 AM

So here's what I'd like to see happen:
Mods being a little less strict about the rules.  For as far back as I remember, General Discussion has been for serious random discussion, Everything Else was for random shit, and Complete Nonsense was for stupid stuff that didn't belong anywhere else.  General Discussion has never been about Flat Earth, that's what Debate and Discussion is for, really.

The strictness is to make sure the rules are observed for a while, there are still stragglers, and until it's under control, we have to keep up on it as tight as we can. We'll probably lax up a bit, but when we do, we're hoping it wont be taken advantage of. Also, Daniel wanted to change around what each forum is designed for. I'm hoping he'll alter the sub-descriptions to fit now. We wont prune out the old threads, but any new threads should follow suite with what is in the revised rules.

All right, but can we at least rename General Discussion to something like Flat Earth Discussion and move it up with the other Flat Earth stuff.

And maybe move Everything Else to the top of the second list, that'd be nice too.

A fair request but one that requires an Admin to do, so it may not get done immediatly

An explanatory
Cinlef

Can we have an option to turn off the time logged in thing? I'm over 24 days now, and it's depressing to look at.

OK, here is something that has really disturbed me. As I was going through the forums, I came across some new mods. One I saw was Raist, which is fine, because he is smart and can contribute well to conversations and debates. The other though, was very difficult to comprehend. I have yet to see a productive post from Dead Kangaroo and all I have seen is spam. This made me think of something. Do you remember that mod named Robosteve? Ya, that guy, the one that was de-modded recently for his spam. So in conclusion, I was wondering, why all the hypocrisy all of a sudden with these anti spam laws but then modding a non productive poster, right after someone was demodded for spamming. Please, enlighten me with the reasoning behind this madness.

DK doesn't spam in the sense that Robosteve does. He also posts sensibly, in the right forums. I've seen plenty of good posts from him, and I am assuming that Daniel also did otherwise he wouldn't have asked him. He has promised to cut back on any spam and curb any slight attitude, and I personally also feel he'd make a great mod and wont use the spot to spam tl;dr and whatnot, like a former team member did.

As long as the job is done, and done well, that's all that really matters, right?

Seriously, this is getting very annoying. NO ONE IS POSTING IN NORMAL FUCKING SUB-FORUMS!!!!!! ITS ALL IN COMPLETE NONSENSE AND ANGRY RANTING. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED WHEN YOU CHANGED THE FUCKING RULES AND WENT APESHIT WITH ALL THE FUCKING MOD SHIT!!! COME ON. AND THEN ALL THE NORMAL FUCKING THREADS ARE STILL BEING SPAMMED AND BY MODS NONTHELESS. WTF IS THIS SHIT. GREAT FUCKING FORUM FIX UP!!!!!! That is all.

Barmey after shocks... it should die down eventually.

Seriously, this is getting very annoying. NO ONE IS POSTING IN NORMAL FUCKING SUB-FORUMS!!!!!! ITS ALL IN COMPLETE NONSENSE AND ANGRY RANTING. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED WHEN YOU CHANGED THE FUCKING RULES AND WENT APESHIT WITH ALL THE FUCKING MOD SHIT!!! COME ON. AND THEN ALL THE NORMAL FUCKING THREADS ARE STILL BEING SPAMMED AND BY MODS NONTHELESS. WTF IS THIS SHIT. GREAT FUCKING FORUM FIX UP!!!!!! That is all.

Proof the rules work, all the spammers and trolls who want to stay here are posting appropriately.

Great work, in my eyes. Please, point out where a mod has spammed any normal thread in the past few days since the new rules came into effect. As far as I recall, everyone was trying to pick on me, but that was about it.

Try the thoughts thread. Yes it was derailed a while ago, but then the mods continued to spam it.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=24612.40
 

Try the thoughts thread. Yes it was derailed a while ago, but then the mods continued to spam it.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=24612.40
 

Now you are trying to be a nit picker. It's an old thread, derailed a long time ago. If you want, it can be moved. In fact, I will do it myself.

Ok, try this one, it's fresh and guess what the first reply is. Hmm that's right, it's you saying to read the faq.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=25503.0
What was the point of that? At least Cinlef and Singularity respond correctly.

It was a perfectly valid response and the new user deserved no better. He clearly had not read the FAQ.

Cinlef rules!

Ok, try this one, it's fresh and guess what the first reply is. Hmm that's right, it's you saying to read the faq.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=25503.0
What was the point of that? At least Cinlef and Singularity respond correctly.

It was a perfectly valid response and the new user deserved no better. He clearly had not read the FAQ.

This.

Aren't you supposed to be helping the noobs? Wile it is obvious now that he was a temporary troll, isn't better to do what the others did rather than wasting time telling him to read the faq twice.

Aren't you supposed to be helping the noobs? Wile it is obvious now that he was a temporary troll, isn't better to do what the others did rather than wasting time telling him to read the faq twice.

Seriously. I just read the FAQ

Explain gravity

Explain the orbit of the moon, using scientific means

With those questions answered:

Do you believe other heavenly bodies are flat? Is the sun flat, too?

He clearly didn't read the FAQ. Telling him to read the FAQ is a valid response as it saves us from having to explain everything since it's already explained.

This response has been used since long before you ever came here. In fact, when I first joined that was one of the responses to me.