The Helium Balloon Test.

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Punisher

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The Helium Balloon Test.
« on: September 24, 2008, 07:56:56 AM »
Helium symbol = He

If I’m holding a helium balloon in outer-space high above our Earth’s atmosphere which way will the He-balloon float?

Like all things helium gas obeys the laws of Earth’s physics, fresh water rises over salt water so will gases depending on their densities, He-gas will rise above Ozone but remain stationed below Hydrogen and as all of Earth’s gases layer themselves one over the other from the bottom up there comes a limit to where there will be a clear separation between the layers of these gases (atmosphere) and the void of space. And this limit does exit or we would lose all of Earth’s gases including our oxygen to the vast emptiness of space, so, these gases do respect the laws of Earth’s physics. This is how the Shuttle after plunging through the atmosphere falls back and hovers over the Earth and needs rocket engines to help break-thru the first layers of these gases until inside this invisible dome then shuts off the engines and glides to the surface of Earth.

Question remains, which way will this helium balloon float?
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stevo

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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 08:05:15 AM »
Well if you believe all the crap about the Earth spinning (it can't, it's flat), then so will the baloon! As it is flat (as mentioned), it will stay pointy side down, because that is the heaviest end, technically termed as 'the knob end'. I know this as I had a baloon once.

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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 08:13:20 AM »
If it is in outer space and it has no net charge or magnetisation, then there are no forces acting upon it. Consequently, it will follow a geodesic in space time - that is to say, it will not accelerate.
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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 05:04:45 PM »
This is how the Shuttle after plunging through the atmosphere falls back and hovers over the Earth and needs rocket boosters to help break-thru the first layers of these gases until inside this invisible dome then shuts off the engines and glides to the surface of Earth.
where did you hear this, or did you just make it up? :-\
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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 05:11:32 PM »
This is how the Shuttle after plunging through the atmosphere falls back and hovers over the Earth and needs rocket boosters to help break-thru the first layers of these gases until inside this invisible dome then shuts off the engines and glides to the surface of Earth.

God dammit I want to sig that.

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semperround

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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 05:15:07 PM »
This is how the Shuttle after plunging through the atmosphere falls back and hovers over the Earth and needs rocket boosters to help break-thru the first layers of these gases until inside this invisible dome then shuts off the engines and glides to the surface of Earth.

God dammit I want to sig that.
you should put it on the failed thread.
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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 05:25:54 PM »
It will not exist because space does not exist so there is no where for the balloon to exist.

Helium balloons are a big fantasy, just like this spherical earth none of us are living on.

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Re: The Helium Balloon Test.
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 07:07:05 PM »
Helium symbol = He

If I’m holding a helium balloon in outer-space high above our Earth’s atmosphere which way will the He-balloon float?

Like all things helium gas obeys the laws of Earth’s physics, fresh water rises over salt water so will gases depending on their densities, He-gas will rise above Ozone but remain stationed below Hydrogen and as all of Earth’s gases layer themselves one over the other from the bottom up there comes a limit to where there will be a clear separation between the layers of these gases (atmosphere) and the void of space. And this limit does exit or we would lose all of Earth’s gases including our oxygen to the vast emptiness of space, so, these gases do respect the laws of Earth’s physics. This is how the Shuttle after plunging through the atmosphere falls back and hovers over the Earth and needs rocket engines to help break-thru the first layers of these gases until inside this invisible dome then shuts off the engines and glides to the surface of Earth.

Question remains, which way will this helium balloon float?

The Helium in the balloon will be subject to the same physical laws that the rest of the collected Helium is, meaning, below the Hydrogen level, but above the Ozone. So, your balloon will be dropping to the atmosphere in responding to Earth's Laws, only the Earth's atmosphere will prevent it from entering because when in outer space the emptiness of space allows that whatever (physical material) falls upon something that something becomes the support of that physical material, in this case, that something are the layers of gases pile up one on top of the other (atmosphere).