"Proof" of gravity?

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Since the entire universe in FET appears to be centered around the Earth, and the Flat Earth itself is also mysteriously unique compared to everything else in the "known" FET universe - yes, the it can be considered to be special. But when you think about the person who invented the theory and the reasons for which he did it, it's not surprising.

The Earth is unique because it is an infinite plane of unknown size and magnitude which cuts the universe in half. It's not a celestial body. It's not a planet. It's an entirely different entity to those things. The earth bisects the universe as our Terra Firma. The earth is the only known material world and the only environment known to support life.

Like I said. Super magical unique and special.

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Like I said. Super magical unique and special.

There's nothing magical about a plane. It's just a plane. It's not a rock, a ball, or a planet. The earth we live on is just an enormous plane. Any child of five could see that.

The FAQ does not explain how the earth is special, it only assumes that it is.

Just like you RE'ers assume the Earth is round. Speaking of that, modern science assumes gravity is propagated by a magical particle called "graviton" or by the curvature of space-time, but does not explain the "how".

I don't assume anything.

The evidence of gravity, that is, the force experienced between two masses, is thoroughly documented. Although the origins are not fully understood, the rules are.

This however is by the by.

The FAQ does not explain how the earth is special, it only assumes that it is.

The FAQ does not explain how the earth is special, it only assumes that it is.

Oh, I forgot you're gullible and go off everything that you're told. My mistake.

Quote from: goldstein on September 23, 2008, 02:40:56 AM

The FAQ does not explain how the earth is special, it only assumes that it is.

Just like you RE'ers assume the Earth is round. Speaking of that, modern science assumes gravity is propagated by a magical particle called "graviton" or by the curvature of space-time, but does not explain the "how".

Trolling doesn't get much more lame than that. Congrats.

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Since the entire universe in FET appears to be centered around the Earth, and the Flat Earth itself is also mysteriously unique compared to everything else in the "known" FET universe - yes, the it can be considered to be special. But when you think about the person who invented the theory and the reasons for which he did it, it's not surprising.

The Earth is unique because it is an infinite plane of unknown size and magnitude which cuts the universe in half. It's not a celestial body. It's not a planet. It's an entirely different entity to those things. The earth bisects the universe as our Terra Firma. The earth is the only known material world and the only environment known to support life.

Modern science doesn't assume *that*, you idiot.   Modern science theorises that gravitons probably exist because of the success of quantum field theory and the "standard model".

Gravitons are postulated because of the great success of the quantum field theory (in particular, the Standard Model) at modeling the behavior of all other forces of nature with similar particles: electromagnetism with the photon, the strong interaction with the gluons, and the weak interaction with the W and Z bosons. In this framework, the gravitational interaction is mediated by gravitons, instead of being described in terms of curved spacetime as in general relativity. In the classical limit, both approaches give identical results, which are required to conform to Newton's law of gravitation.

postulate

–verb (used with object)
1.   to ask, demand, or claim.
2.   to claim or assume the existence or truth of, esp. as a basis for reasoning or arguing.
3.   to assume without proof, or as self-evident; take for granted.
4.   Mathematics, Logic. to assume as a postulate.

tr.v.   pos·tu·lat·ed, pos·tu·lat·ing, pos·tu·lates

   1. To make claim for; demand.
   2. To assume or assert the truth, reality, or necessity of, especially as a basis of an argument.
   3. To assume as a premise or axiom; take for granted.

Sometimes REers have it so wrong about what science actually is:  It's not "absolute truth".  It's not "proof".  It's just ideas backed up by evidence.

If telling your mom you won the fight gets you a bowl of ice cream and a hug, then I'm happy for you to do that.

The Flat Earth Society does not endorse anything said by Tom Bishop.  In fact, just about everything he says is stupid.

Antigravity is as hypothetical as the subatomic particle graviton.

Also, a side note... anyone have incite.  If Einstein proved that gravity was a fictional force, why would they put a gravitron into our standard model if Einstein showed that mass bends space time which is what gravitation is all about (which we mistook for gravity).  Especially since they feel that the elusive Higg's Boson (What the LHC is looking for) is what gives mass?

Then you can stop undervalue the graviton as a particle for gravity, while you support the antigravity for your own theory. And I use "you" in the plural sense.

I'm not so sure.  I'd be willing to argue with that.  From my understanding, the gravitron (although has yet to be discovered) has been put into the standard model to explain a particular force (gravitation) or occurance (mass tending towards each other/the bending of space time).  I was curious to see if there had been experiments that showed an antigravitational force or not.

Also, a side note... anyone have incite.  If Einstein proved that gravity was a fictional force, why would they put a gravitron into our standard model if Einstein showed that mass bends space time which is what gravitation is all about (which we mistook for gravity).  Especially since they feel that the elusive Higg's Boson (What the LHC is looking for) is what gives mass?

Ahhhh ok, so that would mean that it isn't necessarily mass that exerts/distorts the space-time would it not?

Antigravity could just be negative curvature of space-time, which could be caused by exotic matter with negative energy density...