What about the weather?

If space travel/flight is impossible - how do our weather men/women manage to find out about forthcoming weather events? Is the Met office also in on the conspiracy with NASA?

Actually if the weather forcasts were fake that would help to explain why they get it so wrong so often

Do you need to go into space to predict the weather? I could do it with a barometer and a wind sock.

Do you need to go into space to predict the weather? I could do it with a barometer and a wind sock.

no you couldn't. 

I don't believe that dopler radar requires any satellite assistance.

Please see this thread:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15543.0

Please stay on topic.

And the thread I posted explains things just fine.

Quote from: General Douchebag on September 20, 2008, 05:16:30 PM

Do you need to go into space to predict the weather? I could do it with a barometer and a wind sock.

no you couldn't. 

Actually, I could, to some extent. If the pressure is high and there is a north-easterly wind travelling at 40mph I could make the fairly accurate assumption that in one hour the area southwest of my current location will have clear skies and will be very cold (It's only Autumn, but we're already in winter weather up here, so it will be)

Do you need to go into space to predict the weather? I could do it with a barometer and a wind sock.

I could lots of things with a barometer and a wind sock.....but thats a different story.



Space rockets an planes go fly high up in the sky. They'd see the rain, snow coming down to earth before we could. So if they ring the man down here we could being the clothes in off the line, go to the beach if they see the sun will be shining down

In that earlier thread you seemed to say satelites do exist, but the data is not useful.

Rentacow was attempting to showcase that satellites are necessary in weather forecasting. Even if we accepted the premise that satellites existed, with current information, their data collection isn't as useful as the other methods.

You contradict the FAQ.

Well...it's the FAQ...

Are you saying satalites exist, or don't exist?

They could exist.

If they do exist, instead of flying AROUND the world like normal people think, do you mean they would fly backward and forward along the flat earth?

If they do exist, instead of flying AROUND the world like normal people think, do you mean they would fly backward and forward along the flat earth?

I believe they would follow a similar path as the moon. Still circular.

This was a rather interesting article.

http://www.livescience.com/environment/050225_wobbly_planet.html

IF there is any truth to it... perhaps the upwards acceleration of the earth oscillates in a manner which creates the weather.

Oscillates?, or simply varies?

They do or they don't.

Nope; it's probabilistic, like everything else. And I don't want or need to pick one.

Whaaaa?! It's probablistic?! Pass me the crack pipe when you've finished!

...I'm guessing you don't know what that means then.

Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 06:31:08 AM

They do or they don't.

Nope; it's probabilistic, like everything else. And I don't want or need to pick one.

If try to find one, it collapses the waveform and causes satellites to either exist or not exist.

Exactly.

Oscillates?, or simply varies?

A variation is an oscillation... If the weather can be connected with variations in rotation. I do not see why it couldn't be connected to upwards movement as well.

This is actually brand new to me as of five minutes ago so I really have no idea how much truth there is in it.

http://www.tiimes.ucar.edu/events/documents/gw-WhitePaper.pdf

However... Currently gravitation does not exist in FE to my knowledge... and gravity has nothing to do with spin in the RE model... So it must be bunk...

This is just crazy... but worth seeing...



I do know that NASA is releasing Gravity maps of the Gravity field.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2003/103.cfm

Good Lord!



The question I asked was how do things work at the moment? Is the Met office in cahoots with NASA?

Divito's arguing that they could exist. Other believe they couldn't. Divito, however, feels that to say whether they do or not would be a leap of faith he'd rather not take, as there isn't enough evidence to prove it either way. Learn to think, goldstein.

I'm glad you've learned that.

Good Lord!



The question I asked was how do things work at the moment? Is the Met office in cahoots with NASA?

Can anyone answer this please?

Divito, like many here, is the one that refuses to think, because such thought might force him to pin his colours to the mast.

I'm not refusing anything. Given that everything is probabilistic, there are odds for whether or not they exist or not, and those odds change with every piece of evidence for them.

This is the exact same as the FE debate. It's possible that satellites don't exist, but given the evidence, it is more likely that they do exist. However, proving either is not possible; so me picking one would accomplish nothing more than becoming naive, ignorant and just plain stupid.

Please see this thread:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15543.0

Not sure where the quote that you posted came from, or when, but satellite data is used extensively in weather forecasting.

http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/sat-products.html

Hurricanes, for example, are tracked by geosynchronous satellite and not doppler radar.  Unless someone can prove to me that Hurricane Katrina, Ike, or Gustav actually never happened, but everyone displaced by the hurricanes were all part of a government conspiracy.

Not sure where the quote that you posted came from, or when, but satellite data is used extensively in weather forecasting.

Quotes are from Wikipedia.

Unless someone can prove to me that Hurricane Katrina, Ike, or Gustav actually never happened

Er...hurricanes don't happen? Why?

I started thinking "I might be a kinder egg. Since most kinder eggs are inanimate chocolate confectionary with a tacky toy inside, they'd find it hard to drive a car. The probability is quite small. But none zero! I therefore can't say if I'm kinder or not!

Mhmm, point?

Events that have already known to have happened are no longer probabalistic. You acknowledged data from satellites:

That's out of context. Based on the information in the quotes and RE theory, weather prediction does include satellites, but as quoted, it's not as reliable or accurate as the computational models they use.

You know they exist. You look like a muppet.

Logically, I don't know they exist. You thinking you do know makes this all the more funny and sad.

Quote from: divito the truthist on September 22, 2008, 04:30:25 AM

Quote from: goldstein on September 22, 2008, 04:26:36 AM

I started thinking "I might be a kinder egg. Since most kinder eggs are inanimate chocolate confectionary with a tacky toy inside, they'd find it hard to drive a car. The probability is quite small. But none zero! I therefore can't say if I'm kinder or not!

Mhmm, point?

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Quote from: Rig Navigator on September 21, 2008, 06:45:18 PM

Not sure where the quote that you posted came from, or when, but satellite data is used extensively in weather forecasting.

Quotes are from Wikipedia.

Quote from: mightyfletch on September 22, 2008, 04:04:41 AM

Unless someone can prove to me that Hurricane Katrina, Ike, or Gustav actually never happened

Er...hurricanes don't happen? Why?

I'm saying hurricanes do happen, proof is Katrina etc...  So how much more proof of Coriolis effect do you need?