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I wonder how the DE doesn't push that moon to crash in the rocks below us.

Quote from: Kira-SY on September 18, 2008, 01:53:03 PM

I wonder how the DE doesn't push that moon to crash in the rocks below us.

Why would the antimoon be accelerating faster than we are?

UA + gravitational attraction = anti-moon pushed into bottom of FE

Quote from: markjo on September 18, 2008, 06:34:28 PM

UA + gravitational attraction = anti-moon pushed into bottom of FE

Not if it's heavy enough, such that it is accelerated less by Dark Energy.

So now dark energy knows the mass of objects?  Why doesn't the moon and sun accelerate away then?  After all, they are much smaller and there mass is much less. 

Once again Steve, you're suggesting that the heavier something is the less the force affecting it.

Newton's II: F= m.a

Steve's I: F = a/m

The two are always contradictory.

Does not compute. Either stick with Steve's I or Newton's II. Don't try and put them both on a plate, 'cos it's just gonna get sent back to the kitchen.

Not if it's heavy enough, such that it is accelerated less by Dark Energy.

But if two objects are accelerated at different rates, the distance between them will vary.



Still confused. Maybe it's the terminology.

not if the earth's tilt moving in a circular motion, rather than just from left to right..

that aside, I think they made up a moon or something to explain it. I'm sure an FEer will be along soon enough to explain

I don't know how distances can try to do things. They're not sentient, just a number representing separation of two points. Anyway...

If the distances try to increase, but can't, then their acceleration is the same.

Still confused.

Quote from: sokarul on September 18, 2008, 11:37:59 PM

So now dark energy knows the mass of objects?  Why doesn't the moon and sun accelerate away then?  After all, they are much smaller and there mass is much less. 

Look up Newton's second law of motion. You might also benefit from looking up the difference between "there" and "their".

I know what it is

Quote from: sokarul on September 19, 2008, 10:35:02 AM

I know what it is

Then you are trolling.

No, I am pointing out your stupidity. 

Quote from: sokarul on September 19, 2008, 10:37:35 AM

No, I am pointing out your stupidity. 

Go away.

Go away.

Quote from: Osama  bin Laden on September 19, 2008, 11:06:25 AM

Go away.

We are not talking about the sun and the moon.  We are talking about the "antimoon" and the bottom of the earth.

Quote from: C-Ray on September 19, 2008, 11:16:57 AM

We are not talking about the sun and the moon.  We are talking about the "antimoon" and the bottom of the earth.

Oh, sorry. I got this thread confused with another one. The same principle still applies.

So how about my point that if the earth is tilting in various directions the waves will go sideways when observed from the shore?

If I'm right, we have the flat earth, just right in top of it the air fading as you go up. Then the DE is pushing the earth from below, so... how DE affects the moon and sun, that are just right above of the earth, and of all the air on it? isn't the earth blocking?

UA is accelerating (pushing) the FE and the anti-moon upwards.  Gravitation wants to attract the anti-moon to the bottom of the FE.  Unless the bottom of the FE radiates a DEF, then the DEF would be either balanced all around the anti-moon (effectively neutral) or be directed at the anti-moon towards the bottom of the FE (further pushing the anti-moon upwards).

Eh? Geodesics in space time? What are you talking about?

Once again, if the sun accelerates more than the moon then the distances between them will vary.

So now they're not accelerating differently?

Zero net force?

I thought we were accelerating upwards at 9.8ms^-2? That takes some hefty force!

But...

Quote from: Osama  bin Laden on September 20, 2008, 10:35:37 AM

In General Relativity, they are. In Newtonian physics, which is incorrect, they are not.

So they really are acclerating apart, but general relativity causes them not to appear to be accelerating apart?