Mythbusters did the moon landing

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #180 on: August 30, 2008, 08:38:46 AM »


Watch " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video closely and fast forward to the 1:40 mark. Why is the weight distribution of the astronauts in some of the Apollo footage so funky? The astronaut in the scene seemingly dangles above the moon and jumps up slightly without his feet being in contact with the moon's surface.

Speaking of middle schoolers.  I'm pretty sure that made that video. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #181 on: August 30, 2008, 08:39:04 AM »
Yes you did.  You said because you don't know something it doesn't exist. 

No, I said that because something isn't likely to exist, it doesn't exist.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #182 on: August 30, 2008, 08:44:22 AM »
I have seen cameras functioning on Earth. I have not seen them functioning on the moon. What is more likely, that NASA managed to send three men out into space and film them walking on a piece of rock hundreds of thousands of kilometres away, something that I cannot directly observe, or that they simply filmed what was supposed to be the moon landing on Earth, using technology with which I am reasonably familiar?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #183 on: August 30, 2008, 08:46:28 AM »
Do you believe that there are little green men on Mars?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #184 on: August 30, 2008, 08:47:23 AM »
Do you believe that there are little green men on Mars?

Do you try to draw the argument away from you? 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #185 on: August 30, 2008, 08:48:28 AM »
Do you believe that there are little green men on Mars?

Do you try to draw the argument away from you? 

No, I am actually going somewhere with this. You may not be familiar with an argument that goes somewhere, so this will make a valuable learning experience for you. Please answer the question.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #186 on: August 30, 2008, 08:49:09 AM »
Do you believe that there are little green men on Mars?

Do you try to draw the argument away from you? 

No, I am actually going somewhere with this. You may not be familiar with an argument that goes somewhere, so this will make a valuable learning experience for you. Please answer the question.

No, I do not believe there are little green men on mars. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #187 on: August 30, 2008, 08:50:06 AM »
No, I do not believe there are little green men on mars. 

And why don't you believe in such men?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #188 on: August 30, 2008, 08:51:21 AM »
No, I do not believe there are little green men on mars. 

And why don't you believe in such men?

No one has ever seen them or seen evidence for them. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #189 on: August 30, 2008, 08:53:44 AM »
No one has ever seen them or seen evidence for them. 

So basically, you don't believe in them because you have never seen evidence that makes their existence seem, to you, more likely than their non-existence?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #190 on: August 30, 2008, 08:56:15 AM »
No one has ever seen them or seen evidence for them. 

So basically, you don't believe in them because you have never seen evidence that makes their existence seem, to you, more likely than their non-existence?
Yes because I and no one else has seen evidence either.
But on the topic of moon landing, you have never seen evidence but that doesn't mean everyone has never seen evidence.  Nice try though.   
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #191 on: August 30, 2008, 08:57:32 AM »
Depends on what type of evidence.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #192 on: August 30, 2008, 08:59:50 AM »
Yes because I and no one else has seen evidence either.
But on the topic of moon landing, you have never seen evidence but that doesn't mean everyone has never seen evidence.  Nice try though.   

And what if somebody claimed to have looked through their telescope and seen little green men on Mars? Would you believe in them then?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #193 on: August 30, 2008, 09:01:21 AM »
Yes because I and no one else has seen evidence either.
But on the topic of moon landing, you have never seen evidence but that doesn't mean everyone has never seen evidence.  Nice try though.   

And what if somebody claimed to have looked through their telescope and seen little green men on Mars? Would you believe in them then?
No, because no who is sober has ever done that. 


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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #194 on: August 30, 2008, 09:10:00 AM »
And what if somebody claimed to have looked through their telescope and seen little green men on Mars? Would you believe in them then?

Well, if it was a reputable source (one of the major observatories) and other reputable sources verified their findings, I would.  I would also look forward to reading their explanation as to why it hadn't been observed before, and what, if any, evidence there was disputing it.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #195 on: August 30, 2008, 09:14:46 AM »
No, because no who is sober has ever done that.

I rest my case. At least Rig Navigator answered my question rationally.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #196 on: August 30, 2008, 09:19:12 AM »
No, because no who is sober has ever done that.

I rest my case. At least Rig Navigator answered my question rationally.

You compared NASA to a guy claiming he saw little green men on Mars. 

I don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through. 


You said you never saw people on the moon so they have never been there.  You lose. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #197 on: August 30, 2008, 09:27:47 AM »
I rest my case. At least Rig Navigator answered my question rationally.

So based on that...

Because NASA says that space flight is possible, which I consider a reputable source along with a significant portion of the world's people, and that other reputable sources (Russian Space Agency, European Space Agency, Chinese Space Agency, Indian Space Agency, the Australian military, Fox News, CNN, Reuters, etc) say that it is possible and men have walked on the Moon; I accept that as valid evidence that it is true.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #198 on: August 30, 2008, 09:29:51 AM »
So based on that...

Because NASA says that space flight is possible, which I consider a reputable source along with a significant portion of the world's people, and that other reputable sources (Russian Space Agency, European Space Agency, Chinese Space Agency, Indian Space Agency, the Australian military, Fox News, CNN, Reuters, etc) say that it is possible and men have walked on the Moon; I accept that as valid evidence that it is true.

I guess our definitions of reputable sources differ, then.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #199 on: August 30, 2008, 09:35:30 AM »
I guess our definitions of reputable sources differ, then.

Hmm, did I miss one?  I tried to list as many as I could without becoming too repetitious.

Can you suggest one that I missed?

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #200 on: August 30, 2008, 01:15:29 PM »
you can go in circles all day with these guys and never get anywhere because that is their only intention.
i think its funny that this website exists with the full purpose of just arguing their point.
its not like they actually believe what they spew (ill admit some of the more gullible members have actually been brainwashed by the members that argue the best), they just have a good time trying to get people to sway in their own position on the shape of the earth - just for arguments sake. these guys should be lawyers instead of spending time on this site. itd pay a lot more money.  :)
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #201 on: August 30, 2008, 02:11:38 PM »
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You would think that he would have reported them as non-functioning frauds if that was the case.  He was pretty specific in his accusations.

Non-functioning and barely-functioning equipment are both safety violations.
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« Reply #202 on: August 30, 2008, 08:06:04 PM »

Maybe they should actually try to explain some of the serious discrepancies such as why NASA submitted a ridiculously short 110 page proposal for a 6 billion dollar government project (other government proposals of that scale are more than 8,000 pages long according to various interviews with government contractors).

Are now or were in the mid 60's?  Can you list some other proposals that might require more than 8000 pages from the same era?  Out of curiosity, what was the original Manhattan Project Proposal?  I can't find it, but it was a $2 billion project in the 1940's and involved over 100,000 employees...certainly comparable.

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Watch " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video closely and fast forward to the 1:40 mark. Why is the weight distribution of the astronauts in some of the Apollo footage so funky? The astronaut in the scene seemingly dangles above the moon and jumps up slightly without his feet being in contact with the moon's surface.

Sorry, can't see what you're talking about.  What exact time index?  At 1:40 I see 2 actor-nauts kicking up some dust and dirt but nobody on their toes.  I do also note that throughout that video whenever the actor-nauts kick up dust and dirt that it behaves as though it were in a significantly lower than 1g gravitational field.  Are there any good explanations for this odd behavior?

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2008, 12:42:13 AM »
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You would think that he would have reported them as non-functioning frauds if that was the case.  He was pretty specific in his accusations.

Non-functioning and barely-functioning equipment are both safety violations.

But Tom...as I asked in an earlier post, why call it a safety violation on what you claim to be a conspritorial program?  If he wanted to expose fraud, why didn't he claim such?  If he was trying to draw attention to the conspiracy, why not go all the way, instead of half assing it?

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #204 on: August 31, 2008, 08:54:25 PM »
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But Tom...as I asked in an earlier post, why call it a safety violation on what you claim to be a conspritorial program?  If he wanted to expose fraud, why didn't he claim such?

Baron's job as a Safety Inspector was to report safety violations. That's all he was there for. If he sees that the Saturn V was being made out of balsa wood and aluminum sheeting he'd put that in his report as a safety violation. If he sees that the equipment is not being put into rigorous testing he'd put that into his report as a safety violation. His job is to watch NASA build its equipment and report to congress whether they were taking the necessary steps to build their craft to aerospace standards.

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If he was trying to draw attention to the conspiracy, why not go all the way, instead of half assing it?

Baron was clearly trying to reveal NASA for who they really were. But unfortunately NASA got to him before he could do irreversible damage to their integrity.


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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #205 on: August 31, 2008, 09:02:53 PM »
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Are now or were in the mid 60's?  Can you list some other proposals that might require more than 8000 pages from the same era?  Out of curiosity, what was the original Manhattan Project Proposal?  I can't find it, but it was a $2 billion project in the 1940's and involved over 100,000 employees...certainly comparable.

All of the facilities to enrich the uranium, and laboratories built for the Manhattan Project likely had a big lengthy government proposals attached.

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At 1:40 I see 2 actor-nauts kicking up some dust and dirt but nobody on their toes.

The weight distribution at the 1:40 mark is clearly wonky. The astronaut in the foreground seems to jump without his feet touching the lunar surface.
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« Reply #206 on: August 31, 2008, 09:14:49 PM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.
How did they "prove" this?
Shot a laser at the moon. 
Pfffffffffffffft! Sorry, but that's the lamest "evidence" I've ever heard...

The moon landing hoax theory still stands.

Even if they did a live television broadcast, took you up with them, and savagely beat you with the flag you would still deny it because you sir are a refutest penguin of the highest degree, the kind of asshole that would deny the holocaust occurred.

We landed on the moon. Accept that fact and move the fuck on.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #207 on: August 31, 2008, 10:12:09 PM »
you can has ban now.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #208 on: August 31, 2008, 10:12:55 PM »


The weight distribution at the 1:40 mark is clearly wonky. The astronaut in the foreground seems to jump without his feet touching the lunar surface.

I don't see it and the narator didn't see it.  Youa re just seeing what you want to see.    
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #209 on: August 31, 2008, 10:18:06 PM »
You totally ignored Adolfs remark...

Bunch of biased RE'ers.