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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« on: August 23, 2008, 11:52:35 PM »
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 11:52:55 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 10:54:51 PM
Have they been shown to be so?  I don't remember them being shown so.  Perhaps you can quote the post in which this showing took place?  Because, as far as I can tell, my equations have been shown to be correct for the FE.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2008, 12:01:35 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 11:52:35 PM
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
Irony.
How is that irony?

The part you added.  The failed badly part. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2008, 12:04:05 AM »
Sorry, but how is that ironic, again?
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2008, 12:08:50 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 12:04:05 AM
Sorry, but how is that ironic, again?

A dude once told me this and I'm going to tell you it, It's over your head and under your foot, don't step on it.  I think thats what he said. It's a stupid way of me saying you know why.  I didn't like that guy who told me that.   
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2008, 12:10:05 AM »
Under your what?   Feet?
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2008, 12:10:38 AM »
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2008, 12:13:24 AM »
Are you drunk again? 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2008, 12:14:42 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 12:13:24 AM
Are you drunk again? 

I crack up every time Engy posts this.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2008, 12:16:12 AM »
He's come on here a number of times drunk off his ass.  You think his posts are stupid and barely qualify as English as they are, imagine him three sheets to the wind.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2008, 12:18:32 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 12:13:24 AM
Are you drunk again?  
Actually kinda.  The DNC gives me a week off from school, I can drink all I want.  I am trying to hide it.  Still doesn't change anything. I know you peaced out when I said
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 09:21:35 AM
It's only ironic if its true so...

Which clearly means, its only ironic if you were wrong as well.  And since you claim my statement was ironic, it means you admitted you were wrong.  

Added since you posted again.  I had 3 pints.  Its funny though, I saw you tried to claim I was drunk earlier today. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 12:20:31 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:18:32 AM
Which clearly means, its only ironic if you were wrong as well.  And since you claim my statement was ironic, it means you admitted you were wrong. 
What?

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Added since you posted again.  I had 3 pints. 
Obviously.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2008, 12:21:54 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:18:32 AM
Actually kinda.  The DNC gives me a week off from school, I can drink all I want.  

Democratic National Convention?
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2008, 12:22:28 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 12:20:31 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:18:32 AM
Which clearly means, its only ironic if you were wrong as well.  And since you claim my statement was ironic, it means you admitted you were wrong. 
What?
My page 27, your settings may be different. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2008, 12:24:44 AM »
So your posts can only be ironic if someone that has nothing to do with your posts is wrong? 

Lay off the booze.  It's killing the few brain cells you have left.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2008, 12:32:41 AM »
Quote from: Robbyj on August 24, 2008, 12:21:54 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:18:32 AM
Actually kinda.  The DNC gives me a week off from school, I can drink all I want.  

Democratic National Convention?

Yes.  I am off all of next week.  Don't worry, I'm leaving town til wednesday.  No computer access. 

Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 12:24:44 AM
So your posts can only be ironic if someone that has nothing to do with your posts is wrong? 

Lay off the booze.  It's killing the few brain cells you have left.

No, you claimed my post was ironic which means you admited you were wrong.  Then you edited your post to add
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No wonder you have failed so badly in this thread
  when in fact you failed already.  See the irony yet? 

Sorry I have friends and go to the bar. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2008, 12:38:19 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:32:41 AM
No, you claimed my post was ironic which means you admited you were wrong. 
What?  Your posts were ironic.  I had nothing to do with your posts.

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Sorry I have friends and go to the bar.
I have a wife and went for dinner and drinks.  I can say for certain, she is better looking than your friends.

Who knew you could even fail so badly at having friends and drinking? 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2008, 12:48:56 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 12:38:19 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:32:41 AM
No, you claimed my post was ironic which means you admited you were wrong. 
What?  Your posts were ironic.  I had nothing to do with your posts.
I can't help you.  Go look back in this thread.  I said something and then you said the exact same thing but didn't realize it.  Then you claim my post was ironic.  Then you preceded to admit you were wrong.

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I have a wife and went for dinner and drinks.  I can say for certain, she is better looking than your friends.

Who knew you even fail so badly at having friends and drinking? 

I was with my friend since Elementry school and my roomate and his girlfriend.  I would hope she would look better than a guy.  You have posted at least one picture of your wife.   
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2008, 01:28:43 AM »
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Quote from: Robbyj on August 23, 2008, 07:49:03 PM
But we are using the same equation you used in your model.
but you are calculating the acceleration on the object incorrectly, Do this do not think about what happens in reality think about what the model states, and then ask yourself what is causing the acceleration on the object.
I don't bother with calculations because it's not my stuff but when I look at this thread I get feeling what is totally wrong with FE hypothesis. All FE people live in the world which lives and functions on RE rules and the rules work. To get some proof or some real understanding how FE world functions you must live on flat earth. And there they fail totally, they don't itself have real understanding how FE must work and so they invent all this new stuff(like EA) and assume all things(like light bending upward, acceleration an so on). Okay, they see some things that in their eyes must prove that earth is flat but it's only so far when you go out and do some real experiments and collect data some time. But they don't do that either.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2008, 05:16:10 AM »
So, after all these pages, cbarnett has still not shown where TE is wrong in his equations, same with Robby's. Sigh.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2008, 08:08:14 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:48:56 AM
I can't help you.  Go look back in this thread.  I said something and then you said the exact same thing but didn't realize it.  Then you claim my post was ironic.     
That is not the part that is ironic.

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I was with my friend since Elementry school and my roomate and his girlfriend.  I would hope she would look better than a guy.
Like I said, you even fail at going out and drinking. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2008, 08:14:58 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on August 24, 2008, 05:16:10 AM
So, after all these pages, cbarnett has still not shown where TE is wrong in his equations, same with Robby's. Sigh.
Not really surprising, though, is it?
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2008, 09:03:56 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 08:14:58 AM
Not really surprising, though, is it?

Not really. And given the circumstances, it just increases the likelihood that he's full of it and can't back it up; another symptom of sokarulitis.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2008, 09:38:13 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 24, 2008, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 24, 2008, 12:48:56 AM
I can't help you.  Go look back in this thread.  I said something and then you said the exact same thing but didn't realize it.  Then you claim my post was ironic.     
That is not the part that is ironic.
It was the part where I said you were spoon fed your information and you agreed with it. 

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Like I said, you even fail at going out and drinking. 
That sure sounds funny coming from a guy who rapes his wife. 

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I'm sure you would have way more fun with wifey...

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Too bad she's asleep already. 


But, that's never really stopped me before...

But wait there is more.  I took pictures of my sent messages just for you. 





You know nothing about me. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2008, 01:22:48 PM »
Holy shit I turn my back for 5 minutes and suddenly engy is apparently raping his wife and sok's posting up pictures of his mobile... what the hell is going on??!
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2008, 04:03:47 PM »
Sorry if this has been answered, I read most of the thread but might have missed it.

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Now, let's get back to our little experiment.
We have two big vacuum chambers, one on the RE and the other on the FE.
Both contain a mass at a mere 1m above the ground.
Both masses are released at the same time.
What happens to each mass?

Obviously in the RE model, gravity will pull it down until it hits the ground. Just like it would if you actually tried it.

However, according to the FE model it would honestly stay floating. That's because, before it's released, it has upward velocity equal to the upward velocity that the entire planet and all objects on it that aren't 'falling' have. Since there's no air resistance to pull it down (it's in a vacuum!) and inertia states that unless a force acts on the object, it'll keep its upward velocity equal to the earth. Hence, it should float!

But we both know that if you tried it, it's not gonna float. I don't happen to have a vacuum handy or anything, but I'm sure you can't deny that an object placed inside one would fall.

Anyway, sorry if this has already been stated, but I'd love to hear any arguments against this.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2008, 04:06:05 PM »
Oh dear. Learn FE please.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2008, 04:07:28 PM »
Quote from: Relyimah on August 24, 2008, 04:03:47 PM
Obviously in the RE model, gravity will pull it down until it hits the ground. Just like it would if you actually tried it.

Gravity would not pull it down in RE.

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. That's because, before it's released, it has upward velocity equal to the upward velocity that the entire planet and all objects on it that aren't 'falling' have.

What is the velocity of the earth, say, one second after you release the mass?






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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2008, 04:15:38 PM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on August 24, 2008, 04:06:05 PM
Oh dear. Learn FE please.

Unless FE states that there's some inexplicable force on the Earth that causes it to constantly increase in speed, I don't know what could make my analogy wrong. If there's something I'm not factoring in about FET please tell me!
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2008, 04:17:58 PM »
There is an inexplicable force. The same one observed in RET.

EDIT: I don't mean gravity, I mean the one causing the rate of the universes expansion to increase, Drainy.
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