Why bother

So you believe the earth to be spherical then?

Have I said so?

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:10:15 PM

No that's what a flat earther would do. I'd open the box before buying it.

But you just said that not being able to prove theory A must mean that theory B is correct. So if theory A is that there is coal inside, and you can't prove it, then theory B (that there is gold inside) must be true, so you need not open the box to know what is inside it!

Also, thanks Oscar.

Not comparable, the box could contain anything, whereas the earth is either flat or round.

Not comparable, the box could contain anything, whereas the earth is either flat or round.

So cylindrical and ellipsoidal are the only two conceivable three dimensional geometric shapes?

Even taking that to be true, what if there were two boxes and you were shown that one contained coal and one contained gold, and then they were mixed up so you didn't know which was which but you knew that the one being offered to you had to contain one of the two materials?

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:12:11 PM

So you believe the earth to be spherical then?

Have I said so?

Well lets see:

A lot of things seem to be obvious to you that are obvious to nobody else. Most of them also happen to be false.

So I assert that you believe in a flat earth, you claim this is false, so which is it dweeb boy?

So I assert that you believe in a flat earth, you claim this is false, so which is it dweeb boy?

I did not claim it to be false.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:13:53 PM

Not comparable, the box could contain anything, whereas the earth is either flat or round.

So cylindrical and ellipsoidal are the only two conceivable three dimensional geometric shapes?

Even taking that to be true, what if there were two boxes and you were shown that one contained coal and one contained gold, and then they were mixed up so you didn't know which was which but you knew that the one being offered to you had to contain one of the two materials?

Actually the earth is ever so slightly ellipsoidal, however, that aside. I'd demand 3 boxes, and to be shown the contents of one. Thus I could make a better than odds on guess at where the gold was, however I don't expect you to understand maths either

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:15:33 PM

So I assert that you believe in a flat earth, you claim this is false, so which is it dweeb boy?

I did not claim it to be false.

Come down on one side of the fence, round or flat, or in other words are you a moron or not.

Actually the earth is ever so slightly ellipsoidal

That is why I said "ellipsoidal" in my post.

I'd demand 3 boxes, and to be shown the contents of one. Thus I could make a better than odds on guess at where the gold was, however I don't expect you to understand maths either

No. There are only two boxes. You know one contains gold and one contains coal, but you don't know which is which. Someone picks one of them up and offers to sell it to you for a thousand dollars. You can't prove that there's coal inside it, so it must be the one containing gold, right?

Come down on one side of the fence, round or flat, or in other words are you a moron or not.

Why? It is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:19:05 PM

Come down on one side of the fence, round or flat, or in other words are you a moron or not.

Why? It is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Yeah I can see that - a topic about the stupidity of a flat earth on a flat earth forum - hey you're right.....

Hang on that's wrong isn't it - I meant you're completely wrong.

Yeah I can see that - a topic about the stupidity of a flat earth on a flat earth forum - hey you're right.....

Hang on that's wrong isn't it - I meant you're completely wrong.

No, it isn't wrong. I don't see the relevance of my personal beliefs to the objective debate at hand.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:22:56 PM

Yeah I can see that - a topic about the stupidity of a flat earth on a flat earth forum - hey you're right.....

Hang on that's wrong isn't it - I meant you're completely wrong.

No, it isn't wrong. I don't see the relevance of my personal beliefs to the objective debate at hand.

Good so since you are either unwilling or unable to provide any evidence to refute the mountain of evidence for a spherical earth, that ultimately closes the debate. And since no evidence exists for a flat earth, a round earth wins.

I find it hilarious that just two hours ago, you posted this:

Why does anyone try to convince these morons that the earth is not flat?

I find it hilarious that just two hours ago, you posted this:

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 01:24:22 PM

Why does anyone try to convince these morons that the earth is not flat?

That's the first thing you've said that makes sense

Demanding that what you believe to be true is true does not make it true. If that were logical, the earth is both flat and round and shaped like a pigeon (my assertion). If you wish to debate, Hammond, then debate. Right now you are doing nothing but making REers look foolish. I would categorize you and Interstellarsphere as the Tom Bishop's of RET.

Demanding that what you believe to be true is true does not make it true. If that were logical, the earth is both flat and round and shaped like a pigeon (my assertion). If you wish to debate, Hammond, then debate. Right now you are doing nothing but making REers look foolish. I would categorize you and Interstellarsphere as the Tom Bishop's of RET.

It's Hammod by the way, and only because Odin and Thor were taken. I agree, demanding something to be true doesn't make it true. The fact that it is true makes it true.

It's Hammod by the way, and only because Odin and Thor were taken. I agree, demanding something to be true doesn't make it true. The fact that it is true makes it true.

I hope you get a lifetime ban for sheer idiocy.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:35:21 PM

It's Hammod by the way, and only because Odin and Thor were taken. I agree, demanding something to be true doesn't make it true. The fact that it is true makes it true.

I hope you get a lifetime ban for sheer idiocy.

Oh boo hoo hoo, banned from talking to a bunch of idiots - I should point out that the term 'flat earther' is a commonly used phrase to describe someone with below average intelligence!

I should point out that the term 'flat earther' is a commonly used phrase to describe someone with below average intelligence!

If your strongest argument is a popular euphemism, I don't feel too threatened.

Quote from: Mohnzh on August 19, 2008, 03:33:12 PM

Demanding that what you believe to be true is true does not make it true. If that were logical, the earth is both flat and round and shaped like a pigeon (my assertion). If you wish to debate, Hammond, then debate. Right now you are doing nothing but making REers look foolish. I would categorize you and Interstellarsphere as the Tom Bishop's of RET.

It's Hammod by the way, and only because Odin and Thor were taken. I agree, demanding something to be true doesn't make it true. The fact that it is true makes it true.

My apologies for misspelling your name. Your reasoning is stating the trivial? You are asserting something to be true/fact. You may be convinced by the evidence you have seen (or believe you have seen), but others are not yet convinced. You saying they are wrong does not make them wrong. Why was Galileo excommunicated? Because he said he didn't by the geocentric model of the universe, directly at odds with the idea that God created the universe for man, thus man must always be at the center. According to REers, this is incorrect. Not only is the earth not the center of the solar system, the solar system isn't even the center of the universe. All RE evidence supports Galileo, yet the large group said that he was wrong because he didn't accept what was "known to be true". How is it that facts change? They don't. Our knowledge of facts change. Just because you believe something to be true, does not make it true. Fairly soon, the evidence will arise (that is more compelling than either RE or FE evidence) that the earth is in fact shaped like a pigeon (PET). Does my saying this is true make it true? No, the fact that it is true makes it true. If you disagree with me, you have just discarded your own argument and must concede that you are making no headway with your line of thinking or debating.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:38:17 PM

I should point out that the term 'flat earther' is a commonly used phrase to describe someone with below average intelligence!

If your strongest argument is a popular euphemism, I don't feel too threatened.

The arguments for a round earth go on for pages and centuries, and never once mention the word conspiracy.

The arguments for a round earth go on for pages and centuries, and never once mention the word conspiracy.

And yet you don't even seem to be able to articulate a single one of them.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:44:13 PM

The arguments for a round earth go on for pages and centuries, and never once mention the word conspiracy.

And yet you don't even seem to be able to articulate a single one of them.

You're funny - I like you.

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:35:21 PM

Quote from: Mohnzh on August 19, 2008, 03:33:12 PM

Demanding that what you believe to be true is true does not make it true. If that were logical, the earth is both flat and round and shaped like a pigeon (my assertion). If you wish to debate, Hammond, then debate. Right now you are doing nothing but making REers look foolish. I would categorize you and Interstellarsphere as the Tom Bishop's of RET.

It's Hammod by the way, and only because Odin and Thor were taken. I agree, demanding something to be true doesn't make it true. The fact that it is true makes it true.

My apologies for misspelling your name. Your reasoning is stating the trivial? You are asserting something to be true/fact. You may be convinced by the evidence you have seen (or believe you have seen), but others are not yet convinced. You saying they are wrong does not make them wrong. Why was Galileo excommunicated? Because he said he didn't by the geocentric model of the universe, directly at odds with the idea that God created the universe for man, thus man must always be at the center. According to REers, this is incorrect. Not only is the earth not the center of the solar system, the solar system isn't even the center of the universe. All RE evidence supports Galileo, yet the large group said that he was wrong because he didn't accept what was "known to be true". How is it that facts change? They don't. Our knowledge of facts change. Just because you believe something to be true, does not make it true. Fairly soon, the evidence will arise (that is more compelling than either RE or FE evidence) that the earth is in fact shaped like a pigeon (PET). Does my saying this is true make it true? No, the fact that it is true makes it true. If you disagree with me, you have just discarded your own argument and must concede that you are making no headway with your line of thinking or debating.

So to say that the earth is anything other than round would refute the pictures from space, the fact that the curvature of the earth is visible to the naked eye, the fact that all predictions on distance fit a round earth. When flying in a jet you can see a round earth. etc. etc. etc.

I have never once seen a pigean shaped planet - if you have perhaps you should leave off the LSD for a while

Quote from: Mohnzh on August 19, 2008, 03:42:51 PM

Quote from: Hammod on August 19, 2008, 03:35:21 PM

Quote from: Mohnzh on August 19, 2008, 03:33:12 PM

Demanding that what you believe to be true is true does not make it true. If that were logical, the earth is both flat and round and shaped like a pigeon (my assertion). If you wish to debate, Hammond, then debate. Right now you are doing nothing but making REers look foolish. I would categorize you and Interstellarsphere as the Tom Bishop's of RET.

It's Hammod by the way, and only because Odin and Thor were taken. I agree, demanding something to be true doesn't make it true. The fact that it is true makes it true.

My apologies for misspelling your name. Your reasoning is stating the trivial? You are asserting something to be true/fact. You may be convinced by the evidence you have seen (or believe you have seen), but others are not yet convinced. You saying they are wrong does not make them wrong. Why was Galileo excommunicated? Because he said he didn't by the geocentric model of the universe, directly at odds with the idea that God created the universe for man, thus man must always be at the center. According to REers, this is incorrect. Not only is the earth not the center of the solar system, the solar system isn't even the center of the universe. All RE evidence supports Galileo, yet the large group said that he was wrong because he didn't accept what was "known to be true". How is it that facts change? They don't. Our knowledge of facts change. Just because you believe something to be true, does not make it true. Fairly soon, the evidence will arise (that is more compelling than either RE or FE evidence) that the earth is in fact shaped like a pigeon (PET). Does my saying this is true make it true? No, the fact that it is true makes it true. If you disagree with me, you have just discarded your own argument and must concede that you are making no headway with your line of thinking or debating.

So to say that the earth is anything other than round would refute the pictures from space, the fact that the curvature of the earth is visible to the naked eye, the fact that all predictions on distance fit a round earth. When flying in a jet you can see a round earth. etc. etc. etc.

I have never once seen a pigean shaped planet - if you have perhaps you should leave off the LSD for a while

It's "pigeon", by the way  .

I've never seen a dinosaur, either. I guess they never existed. I've never seen you, I guess you don't exist. I've seen Mickey Mouse at Disneyworld, I guess he is real. Perceiving something does not necesarily make it true. Otherwise, you would not even make the LSD reference. How do you know that your perceptions are fact? You can't. You can only know that you are. If you want refutations to your suggestions as to why the earth must be round, see the FAQ.

I do not try to convince you that the earth is flat, only that your arguments are very poor. If you cannot out-debate "a bunch of morons", what does that make you?

I cant tell if this site is a joke.

This is like arguing that Human Beings do not exist.

If you "know" the earth is round, can't you prove that?

ITS BEEN PROVEN A BILLION TIMES 

If you think the earth is flat, sail to the end of it.

Oh, they can't sail to the end of it, because they think there is a huge ice wall blocking them!!!
And it is heavily guarded!

I don't think they believe in boats anyways...

Oh, they can't sail to the end of it, because they think there is a huge ice wall blocking them!!!
And it is heavily guarded!

I don't think they believe in boats anyways...

Actually, if you try to sail a boat too close to the edge of the planet, Ed Harris starts throwing storms and other nasty weather at you from his control room until you give up and agree to go back to dry land.