Flat Earth map

I'm sure the many RE maps you have made, by yourself, from scratch, are far far better.
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I'm not a cartographer so I wouldn't try, by the same token I wouldn't blindly guess what the Earth looked like. You guys are fab.

globularist instrumentation

are you insinuating all gps, radar, and radio manufacturers are in on the conspiracy too?

who's left to be conspired against?

I'm not a cartographer so I wouldn't try, by the same token I wouldn't blindly guess what the Earth looked like. You guys are fab.

So your criticism is baseless. I see.

are you insinuating all gps, radar, and radio manufacturers are in on the conspiracy too?

who's left to be conspired against?

I have given an explanation of what I am talking about in the other thread.

My criticism is based on the fact that it's a map he knocked up himself from nothing, increased the distances between continents, moved continents and even left off some small islands. How is that a map?

I've attached a map i've done of flat Earth


































I moved all the continents out of the way because I couldn't fit them in, and the ocean looked to big so I left that out too. Do you like it?

have given an explanation of what I am talking about in the other thread.

no you haven't, you've presented an impossible assumption that all navigation equipment from all over the world is geared in a manner that creates the illusion of a spherical earth... how do the conspirators get to all of these independent manufacturers?

My criticism is based on the fact that it's a map he knocked up himself from nothing, increased the distances between continents, moved continents and even left off some small islands. How is that a map?

I've attached a map i've done of flat Earth


































I moved all the continents out of the way because I couldn't fit them in, and the ocean looked to big so I left that out too. Do you like it?

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have given an explanation of what I am talking about in the other thread.

no you haven't, you've presented an impossible assumption that all navigation equipment from all over the world is geared in a manner that creates the illusion of a spherical earth... how do the conspirators get to all of these independent manufacturers?

They don't have to. Planes which seem to pilots to be travelling in a straight line are, according to RET, travelling in a curve, correct? Does their instrumentation reflect this? No. Why? Because according to RET, it doesn't need to. The pilot does not feel or see he is travelling in an arc, the plane does not tell him he is traveliing in an arc, yet according to RET, he is. Instrumentation based on RET will reflect RET. A machine is only as good as it's designers.

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have given an explanation of what I am talking about in the other thread.

no you haven't, you've presented an impossible assumption that all navigation equipment from all over the world is geared in a manner that creates the illusion of a spherical earth... how do the conspirators get to all of these independent manufacturers?

They don't have to. Planes which seem to pilots to be travelling in a straight line are, according to RET, travelling in a curve, correct? Does their instrumentation reflect this? No. Why? Because according to RET, it doesn't need to. The pilot does not feel or see he is travelling in an arc, the plane does not tell him he is traveliing in an arc, yet according to RET, he is. Instrumentation based on RET will reflect RET. A machine is only as good as it's designers.

Would you happily fly, sail around the world using a FE map?

There is no FE map, and as I said earlier, this is a problem.

There is no FE map, and as I said earlier, this is a problem.

eerrrmmm RoboSteve just made one. Would you use this map? Because it's pretty much right.

Quote from: Ursa on August 13, 2008, 02:59:31 AM

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have given an explanation of what I am talking about in the other thread.

no you haven't, you've presented an impossible assumption that all navigation equipment from all over the world is geared in a manner that creates the illusion of a spherical earth... how do the conspirators get to all of these independent manufacturers?

They don't have to. Planes which seem to pilots to be travelling in a straight line are, according to RET, travelling in a curve, correct? Does their instrumentation reflect this? No. Why? Because according to RET, it doesn't need to. The pilot does not feel or see he is travelling in an arc, the plane does not tell him he is traveliing in an arc, yet according to RET, he is. Instrumentation based on RET will reflect RET. A machine is only as good as it's designers.

i'll admit for a moment that in the northern hemisphere, the flat model is acceptable to a degree, because it is in effect intact, but here in the southern hemisphere, the FE map becomes so impossible stretched and skewed, especially in regards to distance and the basic shape of the antarctic. in december, the antarctic is accessible throughout, and literally thousands of people, including some of my colleagues are stationed there for fisheries and meteorological work, it's not a mysterious wall, even the south pole itself is quite readily accessible and highly documented by the general civilian public.

Just a quick couple of questions Robosteve.

Did you get those land mass images from Google earth?

If yes then,

If you say that the earth is flat and those who provide evidence of a RE are part of a global conspiracy, how can you be so sure the land mass shapes are accurate?

and perhaps more importantly - where did Google earth get those images?

eerrrmmm RoboSteve just made one. Would you use this map? Because it's pretty much right.

Steve's is an aproximation, and to sail or do anything you are asking about I would need a map detailed to the point where I could avoid shallow ground or rocks lying just below thwe water but not visible from the surface. There is no such map.

i'll admit for a moment that in the northern hemisphere, the flat model is acceptable to a degree, because it is in effect intact, but here in the southern hemisphere, the FE map becomes so impossible stretched and skewed, especially in regards to distance and the basic shape of the antarctic. in december, the antarctic is accessible throughout, and literally thousands of people, including some of my colleagues are stationed there for fisheries and meteorological work, it's not a mysterious wall, even the south pole itself is quite readily accessible and highly documented by the general civilian public.

It's important to realise that Antarctica and the Ice Wall are not the same thing in standard FET. Antarctica is an ice rim around the edge of the earth; the wall is significantly inland. What Steve is suggesting is something new, and though I think it has merit, it is a brand new hypothesis.

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 03:28:25 AM

eerrrmmm RoboSteve just made one. Would you use this map? Because it's pretty much right.

Steve's is an aproximation, and to sail or do anything you are asking about I would need a map detailed to the point where I could avoid shallow ground or rocks lying just below thwe water but not visible from the surface. There is no such map.

Quote from: Ursa on August 13, 2008, 03:30:32 AM

i'll admit for a moment that in the northern hemisphere, the flat model is acceptable to a degree, because it is in effect intact, but here in the southern hemisphere, the FE map becomes so impossible stretched and skewed, especially in regards to distance and the basic shape of the antarctic. in december, the antarctic is accessible throughout, and literally thousands of people, including some of my colleagues are stationed there for fisheries and meteorological work, it's not a mysterious wall, even the south pole itself is quite readily accessible and highly documented by the general civilian public.

It's important to realise that Antarctica and the Ice Wall are not the same thing in standard FET. Antarctica is an ice rim around the edge of the earth; the wall is significantly inland. What Steve is suggesting is something new, and though I think it has merit, it is a brand new hypothesis.

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

Don't give that normal crap about money etc.. put your money where you mouth is and stop drawing pictures.

Here is the true map: 



It is of course an approximation.  The lollipops are smaller than that really. 



here is a lollipop from the forest.  This proves it exists.  Unless you believe people could somehow make a lollipop that big.  lol! 

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

I have to feed myself. Those people were paid to do so. I won't be.

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 03:47:57 AM

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

I have to feed myself. Those people were paid to do so. I won't be.

Are you the only person who believes FET?

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Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 03:47:57 AM

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

I have to feed myself. Those people were paid to do so. I won't be.

Are you the only person who believes FET?

No, but there are very few.

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Quote from: NEEMAN on August 13, 2008, 04:22:13 AM

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 03:47:57 AM

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

I have to feed myself. Those people were paid to do so. I won't be.

Are you the only person who believes FET?

No, but there are very few.

You know what just sit and draw pictures and be apathetic. You're just kidding yourself.
How can you argue your point when you haven't got one single piece of evidence that supports anything you say. At least 'we' have a conspiracy to rely on. You guys can't even me bothered to do that. Lazy bones.

You know what just sit and draw pictures and be apathetic. You're just kidding yourself.
How can you argue your point when you haven't got one single piece of evidence that supports anything you say. At least 'we' have a conspiracy to rely on. You guys can't even me bothered to do that. Lazy bones.

Go easy on them, they don't have the motivation of unending supplies of lollipops from the lollipop forest. 

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Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 04:24:18 AM

Quote from: NEEMAN on August 13, 2008, 04:22:13 AM

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 03:47:57 AM

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

I have to feed myself. Those people were paid to do so. I won't be.

Are you the only person who believes FET?

No, but there are very few.

You know what just sit and draw pictures and be apathetic. You're just kidding yourself.
How can you argue your point when you haven't got one single piece of evidence that supports anything you say. At least 'we' have a conspiracy to rely on. You guys can't even me bothered to do that. Lazy bones.

But that's precisely what we have done. What is your point?

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Quote from: NEEMAN on August 13, 2008, 04:24:59 AM

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 04:24:18 AM

Quote from: NEEMAN on August 13, 2008, 04:22:13 AM

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 03:47:57 AM

Isn't it odd that there aren't any maps of round earth?
I always seem to get back to this but why has nobody EVER got off their arse and done something to prove this theory? It's been around for hundreds of years. And I don't mean knocking up a map in paintbrush. I mean getting out there are making a map like those crazy people did hundreds of years ago, without satellites or GPS or anything except a boat.

I have to feed myself. Those people were paid to do so. I won't be.

Are you the only person who believes FET?

No, but there are very few.

You know what just sit and draw pictures and be apathetic. You're just kidding yourself.
How can you argue your point when you haven't got one single piece of evidence that supports anything you say. At least 'we' have a conspiracy to rely on. You guys can't even me bothered to do that. Lazy bones.

But that's precisely what we have done. What is your point?

You've written an FAQ and started a forum, well done.

Why hasn't anyone ever considered that if NASA are making billions of dollars out of faking round earth data etc. that given the world is actually flat then 'you' could make billions and billions from proving it, or at least faking your own data.

How was flat earth measured? How were the sun and the moon measured? How were their distances from us measured? How were their orbits measured?

If this is a counter conspiracy you should have some pretty good answers for these standard questions.

If we knew any of that, we could expose the globuspiracy in one fell swoop. We know only that there is a conspiracy; exposing it is beyond our means.


Besides, such a move would threaten the lives of the people who did so, and I enjoy life too much to throw it away so cheaply.

If we knew any of that, we could expose the globuspiracy in one fell swoop. We know only that there is a conspiracy; exposing it is beyond our means.


Besides, such a move would threaten the lives of the people who did so, and I enjoy life too much to throw it away so cheaply.

Whatever lazy bones  I'm starting a new post for my questions.

To assert laziness is ridiculous. When was the last time you risked your life knowing it would only be a gesture, and a futile one at that? Never I'll bet. I'm no more 'lazy' than any other sane human being with a self-preservation instinct. The Conspiracy is a power with global influence and reach; theycrush me like a bug and no-one would ever know.

To assert laziness is ridiculous. When was the last time you risked your life knowing it would only be a gesture, and a futile one at that? Never I'll bet. I'm no more 'lazy' than any other sane human being with a self-preservation instinct. The Conspiracy is a power with global influence and reach; theycrush me like a bug and no-one would ever know.

When was the last time you did something for the greater good. Selfish lazy bones

What makes you think they would kill you?  Why not just kidnap you, and force you to live the rest of your life in the lolliopop forest?  I'd say it's a 50/50 chance.  Go for it man, isn't hte risk of death worth the lollipops?

Quote from: NEEMAN on August 13, 2008, 04:52:29 AM

To assert laziness is ridiculous. When was the last time you risked your life knowing it would only be a gesture, and a futile one at that? Never I'll bet. I'm no more 'lazy' than any other sane human being with a self-preservation instinct. The Conspiracy is a power with global influence and reach; theycrush me like a bug and no-one would ever know.

When was the last time you did something for the greater good. Selfish lazy bones

I'll answer your question when you answer mine. I asked first. =)

Quote from: monkeybradders on August 13, 2008, 04:57:42 AM

Quote from: NEEMAN on August 13, 2008, 04:52:29 AM

To assert laziness is ridiculous. When was the last time you risked your life knowing it would only be a gesture, and a futile one at that? Never I'll bet. I'm no more 'lazy' than any other sane human being with a self-preservation instinct. The Conspiracy is a power with global influence and reach; theycrush me like a bug and no-one would ever know.

When was the last time you did something for the greater good. Selfish lazy bones

I'll answer your question when you answer mine. I asked first. =)

about 2 years ago