Flat Earth map

I have created a map that does not involve distortion of the southern hemisphere, and also includes Antarctica as a continent completely surrounded by water, so that circumnavigating it is no longer evidence for a round Earth. It also shows how the shortest route from Australia to South America is, in fact, over Antarctica. Let me know what you guys think of it.

all you did was take a normal topographic map, and increased the size of the pacific ocean to fit in a continent that isn't in that location: epic fail

ps: you forgot the icewall.

Your a retarted bufon bufoon.

all you did was take a normal topographic map, and increased the size of the pacific ocean to fit in a continent that isn't in that location: epic fail

ps: you forgot the icewall.

No.

no matter what you have just said, you just edited a map

and you need to add in the icewall or else it simply doesn't make sence

I have created a map, slightly less ridiculous than the last one, that does not involve distortion of the southern hemisphere, and also includes Antarctica as a continent completely surrounded by water, in a laughable attempt to add more credibility to Flat Earth theory. It also shows how the shortest route from Australia to South America is, in fact, over Antarctica, except that now different places are way too far away from each other. Let me know what you guys think of it.

There, fixed that for you.

no matter what you have just said, you just edited a map

and you need to add in the icewall or else it simply doesn't make sence

No, I created my own map and copied and pasted continents onto it. And I had the icewall in as a white ring around the outside originally, but when exporting to JPEG it couldn't be distinguished from the white background anyway, so I edited it out. If it bothers you, just imagine there's an ice wall around the outside of the map - or better yet, go away.

hey, i'm being neutral right now, i'm for neither side, i am going to be collecting and weighing facts.

two things.

I live in new zealand, and work as a meteorologist, i observe weather patterns coming from our south, over antarctica. that's south, not east. i also don't remember crossing over antarctica when i flew to south america, in fact we stopped in samoa, and with the distance between land masses in that map, we would have been traveling at twice the speed of sound.

furthermore, antarcrica is also due south of africa, the nation of south africa has sent meteorologists to Scott Base in antarctica, many times in the past. they flew straight south to get there... not from one edge of the earth-disc to the other.

Nice effort but absolute nonsense.

So you suggest all of the Sailors that have sailed around the base of the obvious RE are in on it too OR have super fast sailboats that are capable of 1500- 2000 miles a day?

Seriously guys if you want folks to believe your FE Theory stick with the Ring of ice rather than actually give Antarctica a place on the map.

Based on this effort... RE WINS

I have created a map that does not involve distortion of the southern hemisphere, and also includes Antarctica as a continent completely surrounded by water, so that circumnavigating it is no longer evidence for a round Earth. It also shows how the shortest route from Australia to South America is, in fact, over Antarctica. Let me know what you guys think of it.

That is about the worst failure I have ever seen

I can take Antarctica out, and it'll still be an improvement on the old one because the southern hemisphere is not distorted. The main reason for Antarctica's presence is that people were saying that planes had flown from Australia to South America across Antarctica, and this map provides a good explanation for such a route being practical.

oh man... I got nothing.

RE 1 - FE 0

I have created a map that does not involve distortion of the southern hemisphere, and also includes Antarctica as a continent completely surrounded by water, so that circumnavigating it is no longer evidence for a round Earth. It also shows how the shortest route from Australia to South America is, in fact, over Antarctica. Let me know what you guys think of it.

It has some serious problems matching with observed sizes of land masses.  On your map, Australia appears to be larger than all of North America when in reality is about 1/3 the size.  Also not sure why Asia is smaller than South America on your projection when it should be 2 1/2 times bigger.

I am not sure what all of those islands are south of the Malay Peninsula.  It would appear to be the Philippines, Borneo and Java (if I am interpreting them correctly), but those are the incorrect locations.

The direction of travel to Antarctica is always given as south, but on this map, no one would travel south to reach it.

All and all, I would judge this as a very inaccurate map.

On this map, you pretty much can't go south from anywhere and reach Antarctica.

Quote from: Robosteve on August 12, 2008, 09:53:57 PM

I have created a map that does not involve distortion of the southern hemisphere, and also includes Antarctica as a continent completely surrounded by water, so that circumnavigating it is no longer evidence for a round Earth. It also shows how the shortest route from Australia to South America is, in fact, over Antarctica. Let me know what you guys think of it.

It has some serious problems matching with observed sizes of land masses.  On your map, Australia appears to be larger than all of North America when in reality is about 1/3 the size.  Also not sure why Asia is smaller than South America on your projection when it should be 2 1/2 times bigger.

I am not sure what all of those islands are south of the Malay Peninsula.  It would appear to be the Philippines, Borneo and Java (if I am interpreting them correctly), but those are the incorrect locations.

The direction of travel to Antarctica is always given as south, but on this map, no one would travel south to reach it.

All and all, I would judge this as a very inaccurate map.

Yes, well it isn't supposed to be perfect. It's supposed to be an improvement in the representation of the layout of the continents. The reason some are disproportionate in size is because I pasted them on one by one, resizing each one separately, so some of them ended up being shrunk more than others. If you like the idea of the layout, though, I could perhaps spend some more time making a map that looks a bit more realistic.

Quote from: Rig Navigator on August 12, 2008, 10:51:29 PM

Quote from: Robosteve on August 12, 2008, 09:53:57 PM

I have created a map that does not involve distortion of the southern hemisphere, and also includes Antarctica as a continent completely surrounded by water, so that circumnavigating it is no longer evidence for a round Earth. It also shows how the shortest route from Australia to South America is, in fact, over Antarctica. Let me know what you guys think of it.

It has some serious problems matching with observed sizes of land masses.  On your map, Australia appears to be larger than all of North America when in reality is about 1/3 the size.  Also not sure why Asia is smaller than South America on your projection when it should be 2 1/2 times bigger.

I am not sure what all of those islands are south of the Malay Peninsula.  It would appear to be the Philippines, Borneo and Java (if I am interpreting them correctly), but those are the incorrect locations.

The direction of travel to Antarctica is always given as south, but on this map, no one would travel south to reach it.

All and all, I would judge this as a very inaccurate map.

Yes, well it isn't supposed to be perfect. It's supposed to be an improvement in the representation of the layout of the continents. The reason some are disproportionate in size is because I pasted them on one by one, resizing each one separately, so some of them ended up being shrunk more than others. If you like the idea of the layout, though, I could perhaps spend some more time making a map that looks a bit more realistic.

well if not you, then someone should try and come up with an accepted flat earth map and include all of the latitude and longitude lines as well. The FES is in need of one; among other things

well if not you, then someone should try and come up with an accepted flat earth map and include all of the latitude and longitude lines as well. The FES is in need of one; among other things

Yes, this map was intended to be a starting point towards a standardised FE map. Of course if I make another one, I shall take into account the comments people have made regarding this one.

Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 12, 2008, 11:16:19 PM

well if not you, then someone should try and come up with an accepted flat earth map and include all of the latitude and longitude lines as well. The FES is in need of one; among other things

Yes, this map was intended to be a starting point towards a standardised FE map. Of course if I make another one, I shall take into account the comments people have made regarding this one.

I would like to see it because then at least the FES would have some sort of tangible evidence to point to in defense of their position and maybe it will lead to more standarization in the FE model so there will be no misunderstandings when it comes to data regarding a flat earth

I cant see Hawaii.  Does Hawaii exist in FET?  I feel so left out.... 

I cant see Hawaii.  Does Hawaii exist in FET?  I feel so left out.... 

No, I put the continents on one by one, so a lot of the smaller islands got left out.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on August 13, 2008, 12:49:08 AM

I cant see Hawaii.  Does Hawaii exist in FET?  I feel so left out.... 

No, I put the continents on one by one, so a lot of the smaller islands got left out.

Man I'm going to give you 1 big ole E for effort.   You were very brave slapping that map on here.  Put Hawaii in there and it looks like a couple of hours away and I could be at the supposed "southpole". 

Man I'm going to give you 1 big ole E for effort.   You were very brave slapping that map on here.  Put Hawaii in there and it looks like a couple of hours away and I could be at the supposed "southpole". 

Can you prove that the south pole is not a couple of hours away?

I flown every direction out of and into Hawaii.  You cant get in here or out of here in under 5 hours.  Ive never flown over or seen the Antarctic continent or coast, no matter which direction Ive come from or gone out to.  Although I am in the military and obviously part of the conspiracy. 

...the southern hemisphere is not distorted.

yes, yes it is by an enormous degree. you've moved relatively close land masses several times their real distance away from each other, and changed their relative bearings to each other with seemingly no thought given to some enormous impracticalities.

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...the southern hemisphere is not distorted.

yes, yes it is by an enormous degree. you've moved relatively close land masses several times their real distance away from each other, and changed their relative bearings to each other with seemingly no thought given to some enormous impracticalities.

I meant that the landmasses themselves are not distorted.

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...the southern hemisphere is not distorted.

yes, yes it is by an enormous degree. you've moved relatively close land masses several times their real distance away from each other, and changed their relative bearings to each other with seemingly no thought given to some enormous impracticalities.

As he has said, it's just an approximation. Relax, would you? He's not calling it definitive. He probably wanted to get a response in order to fine-tune his ideas for producing a more accurat FE map, something which we badly need.


My only issue is Steve, that I think a lot of work would have to be done regarding the position of Antarctica to make it consistent. Ursa raises a good point, in that going from South Africa to antarctica would be almost impossible on this map. Furthermore, if Antarctica is not the ice wall, then people would be able to reach the ice wall, which under current FET is something they cannot do, as they are prevented from doing so by the Ice-wall rim, known as Antarctica.


But I think you have something here- a better map is something FET could really do with.

that's true, i'm not going to argue with that, however you'll agree there is still a lot that goes unaccounted for in this model.

keep in mind, Antarctica is readily accessible by common folk of a number of professions, there are hundreds of people stationed there as we speak, none of whom have reported on any ice wall, or given evidence to suggest it is anything other than a singular land mass surrounded by water.

For your next effort maybe you'd like to borrow my barrel, you could scrape the bottom?

This is a poor poor effort. I seriously thought that, as much as I disagree with you, that in previous maps some effort had been made to figure out where countries are etc... I really didn't think you guys just went "I know, i'll pretend it looks like this, hhmmm small islands don't fit, oh well"

Lazy.

that's true, i'm not going to argue with that, however you'll agree there is still a lot that goes unaccounted for in this model.

keep in mind, Antarctica is readily accessible by common folk of a number of professions, there are hundreds of people stationed there as we speak, none of whom have reported on any ice wall, or given evidence to suggest it is anything other than a singular land mass surrounded by water.

But we believe that one could be in antarctica without ever discovering the ice wall if onw was using globularist instrumentation.


Distances are a huge issue though, and I think on of the major flaws in FET.

For your next effort maybe you'd like to borrow my barrel, you could scrape the bottom?

This is a poor poor effort. I seriously thought that, as much as I disagree with you, that in previous maps some effort to figure out where countries were etc.. had been thought about. I really didn't think you guys just went "I know, i'll pretend it looks like this, hhmmm small islands don't fit, oh well"

Lazy.

I'm sure the many RE maps you have made, by yourself, from scratch, are far far better.