So where is this 'Ice Wall'

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2008, 02:49:12 PM »
Where are the flat world maps done by people who have travelled the globe, and even circumnavigated it?
Surely somebody had to document the ice wall in some form and provided a map of such with great detail, but such a map does not exist

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2008, 02:56:49 PM »
Where are the flat world maps done by people who have travelled the globe, and even circumnavigated it?
Surely somebody had to document the ice wall in some form and provided a map of such with great detail, but such a map does not exist

Circumnavigation is possible in the Flat Earth model without encountering the Ice Wall.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2008, 02:59:47 PM »
sutch a high wall must be notist by many human's.
How does it come that they aren't saying anyting?

Ans sutch a high wall must collapse because its owne weight

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2008, 03:03:34 PM »
Diffusion makes even massive objects indiscernible at distance.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2008, 03:09:41 PM »
Diffusion makes even massive objects indiscernible at distance.

Anybody can go that distance though

If you're using people who have "seen" the ice wall from texts, you better have it backed up with a fucking map, or else it's just a fairy tale

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2008, 06:11:05 PM »
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Anybody can go that distance though

You can travel tens or hundreds of thousands of miles into the uncharted tundras of Antarctica on a single tank of gas?

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2008, 06:12:38 PM »
To whoever wrote this thread: Simple. It doesn't exist. Well the Ross one does but the greater one doesn't. And they don't hold in the water either.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2008, 06:35:57 PM »
To whoever wrote this thread: Simple. It doesn't exist. Well the Ross one does but the greater one doesn't. And they don't hold in the water either.

Stop being so insecure, and start trying to think up intelligent ways to counter FE theory.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2008, 09:08:00 PM »
How is the water kept on Earth though?
On the oblate spheroid Earth: Gravity
On the flat Earth: Magic
I would love for you or one of your RE'er buddies to fill in the part labeled "magic" in my sig.


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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2008, 10:58:33 PM »
How is the water kept on Earth though?
On the oblate spheroid Earth: Gravity
On the flat Earth: Magic
I would love for you or one of your RE'er buddies to fill in the part labeled "magic" in my sig.

Mass1 + Mass2 aided by human perception= Attraction(gravity)

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2008, 05:17:23 AM »
How is the water kept on Earth though?
On the oblate spheroid Earth: Gravity
On the flat Earth: Magic
I would love for you or one of your RE'er buddies to fill in the part labeled "magic" in my sig.

Mass1 + Mass2 aided by human perception= Attraction(gravity)

Why play this game Eng? Do you have a goal?

Of course he does.  To frustrate as many noobs (RE'ers) as possible.   8)
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2008, 05:52:19 AM »
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I would love for you or one of your RE'er buddies to fill in the part labeled "magic" in my sig.

Something like 'General relativity' might work.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2008, 06:03:57 AM »
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I would love for you or one of your RE'er buddies to fill in the part labeled "magic" in my sig.

Something like 'General relativity' might work.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2008, 06:08:41 AM »
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Wrong.

Meh, works for me.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2008, 06:12:41 AM »
[Mass1 + Mass2 aided by human perception= Attraction(gravity)
You forgot to fill in the "magic" part.

Something like 'General relativity' might work.
So did you.


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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2008, 06:37:43 AM »
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So did you.

So it should be something like 'mass -> magic -> curved spacetime -> gravity'? Perhaps adding 'matter -> magic ->' to the start of it?

I'm aware that as long as you ask 'Why?' long enough you're going to reach a point where you can't explain it. You simply wanted a phrase that could have replaced 'MAGIC' in your signature, thus I gave you one.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2008, 08:43:59 AM »
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So did you.

So it should be something like 'mass -> magic -> curved spacetime -> gravity'? Perhaps adding 'matter -> magic ->' to the start of it?

I'm aware that as long as you ask 'Why?' long enough you're going to reach a point where you can't explain it. You simply wanted a phrase that could have replaced 'MAGIC' in your signature, thus I gave you one.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2008, 06:01:43 PM »
I'm aware that as long as you ask 'Why?' long enough you're going to reach a point where you can't explain it. You simply wanted a phrase that could have replaced 'MAGIC' in your signature, thus I gave you one.
So, you have no answer?  Figures.


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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2008, 06:25:12 PM »
*spits some kind of drink* When did you get back?
Meh, works for me.

So you're held to the ground by fancily labeled magic? I like the image in my head of you being a very light wizard, but in practice, I do have my doubts.
No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2008, 06:00:25 AM »
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So you're held to the ground by fancily labeled magic? I like the image in my head of you being a very light wizard, but in practice, I do have my doubts.

Well, FEers believe they are accelerated up by fancily labeled magic. Most of your body works by systems we have so little understanding about that they could quite easily be magic. No doubt all physics, once you've iterate through the causes long enough, comes down to something we can label magic. It doesn't mean that there's some old guy in a pointy hat somewhere keeping your desk solid and ensuring it remains on the floor (Although it might make an interesting hypothesis).

Simply because you can't explain it doesn't mean it's magic. Unless you have an education in human anatomy and diseases, you probably wouldn't understand half the things a doctor says. This doesn't mean they are chanting spells, it's simply because you don't understand it.

What was asked for was simply something that fits in between mass and gravity in RE theory. General Relativity fills that role quite well, as far as I'm concerned. If you want to call it magic instead, then so be it.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2008, 06:03:26 AM »
General Relativity fills that role quite well, as far as I'm concerned. If you want to call it magic instead, then so be it.
Except the whole point is that GR has nothing to do with "gravity". This is why you were wrong with the filling part.

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2008, 06:07:54 AM »
General Relativity fills that role quite well, as far as I'm concerned.
Actually, no, it does not.  In fact, it never even attempts to explain the "magic" part.

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Simply because you can't explain it doesn't mean it's magic.
And, that, is the entire point. 


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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2008, 06:23:47 AM »
Right.  That is the whole point. 


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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2008, 06:53:44 AM »
Because of course there is as much finance available to FE science as there is to RE. Maybe some of us want to live, you know, life? Why aren't you out there, "doing your damnedest" to find out what causes gravity? Don't you "really, sincerely" believe the eath is round?
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2008, 07:23:30 AM »
Flat Out Truth, great slogan!


However, I'd like to finish my degree, live comfortably, get better at the clarinet and settle down with my girlfriend. I'm not forcing my opinions on you, or anyone else, however I won't let anyone take my beliefs away from me; nor will I let them foist theirs upon me.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2008, 07:52:20 AM »
Paint "Flat out truth" on the side of your house.

I think I might get a banner or flag. I don't think I could get away with painting the house though.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2008, 10:06:10 AM »
And you can see the difference between "magic" and "undiscovered phsyical relation"?

Yes, but the point is that REers call it magic. Hence, TE's sig showing the logic.

Yes I do. I'm happy to float along on recieved opinion and dogma.

Glad you can admit it.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2008, 01:23:23 PM »
If you want to disprove it, it's up to you. I'm sure there's people out there that'll give you money. Put a team together. Make a blog. Get sponsorship from the people that make Phileas Fogg crisps. Write press releases. Get celebrities on board. Get a newspaper campaign going. Find a sympathetic newspaper editor. Post stuff on youtube. Get Bono to write a song. Go on hunger strike. Paint "Flat out truth" on the side of your house.


Now I want to do all those things...
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2008, 03:51:32 PM »
If you want to disprove it, it's up to you. I'm sure there's people out there that'll give you money. Put a team together. Make a blog. Get sponsorship from the people that make Phileas Fogg crisps. Write press releases. Get celebrities on board. Get a newspaper campaign going. Find a sympathetic newspaper editor. Post stuff on youtube. Get Bono to write a song. Go on hunger strike. Paint "Flat out truth" on the side of your house.


Now I want to do all those things...

If anyone can pull all of that off with style, I'm sure that you could Gayer. 
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2008, 03:56:10 PM »
I don't really see Bono as being a good advocate for the RE movement.  Maybe Sir Elton John or George Michael?
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