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MessiahOfFire

Proof of Satellites
« on: May 12, 2008, 07:50:08 PM »
Has anybody been to this place before?

www.n2yo.com

You can pick out any Satellite you want and it tracks it for you, live. If you FE's want proof they exist, then pick a satellite that is traveling over where you are located on this webpage. Track it, then get your self a telescope and check it out in real life!
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2008, 07:52:59 PM »
Stratellites do exist and can be tracked...thanks for proving it.  I have never denied their existence.
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2008, 08:11:20 PM »
No no, these are not Stratellites. They are Satellites.

EDIT: Because when you look at them from a telescope, they do not appear to be floating off a big balloon looking aircraft, which is what Stratellites really are. And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2008, 08:17:54 PM »
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Because when you look at them from a telescope, they do not appear to be floating off a big balloon looking aircraft, which is what Stratellites really are.

What prevents Stratellites from being ridged specially molded dirigibles similar to the geostationary banana over texas?

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And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites

Ever heard of solar power?
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2008, 08:25:22 PM »
And they are cheaper to operate than a satellite -- saving more money for profit-taking by the conspirators.
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2008, 08:51:28 PM »
Well, I've got my proof. Go onto that webpage, track a local satellite down, then view it on a clear night with a telescope. There you have it. I can't find any information anywhere on the internet or library showing that these are not Satellites. But I can find a huge amount of information showing they are.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2008, 10:46:00 PM »
Quote from: MessiahOfFire on May 12, 2008, 08:51:28 PM
But I can find a huge amount of information showing they are.

Great, now you might be on to something.  What is the information?
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 05:25:32 AM »
What if i point my webcam at my clock, leave it on for 24 hours a day and say it proves teh existance of the might Clock God of Orion VIII? would you think that is solid evidence?
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 07:13:25 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 12, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
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And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites

Ever heard of solar power?
How does solar power keep a balloon up?  ???
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 07:16:01 AM »
Quote from: CyborgJesus on May 13, 2008, 07:13:25 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 12, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
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And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites

Ever heard of solar power?
How does solar power keep a balloon up?  ???
Energy collected via solar cells can power fans....since it's a stratellite there is atmosphere for the fans to move.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 07:30:31 AM »
Quote from: CommonCents on May 13, 2008, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: CyborgJesus on May 13, 2008, 07:13:25 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 12, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
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And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites

Ever heard of solar power?
How does solar power keep a balloon up?  ???
Energy collected via solar cells can power fans....since it's a stratellite there is atmosphere for the fans to move.
I don't see how fans and solar cells (Highly inefficient) Can keep a large piece of equipment in the air.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008, 07:34:02 AM »
Quote from: CyborgJesus on May 13, 2008, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: CommonCents on May 13, 2008, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: CyborgJesus on May 13, 2008, 07:13:25 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 12, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
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And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites

Ever heard of solar power?
How does solar power keep a balloon up?  ???
Energy collected via solar cells can power fans....since it's a stratellite there is atmosphere for the fans to move.
I don't see how fans and solar cells (Highly inefficient) Can keep a large piece of equipment in the air.
If you did your research on stratellites you would understand.  Please research a little bit before asking stupid questions in the future.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2008, 07:52:16 AM »
Quote from: CommonCents on May 13, 2008, 07:34:02 AM
Quote from: CyborgJesus on May 13, 2008, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: CommonCents on May 13, 2008, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: CyborgJesus on May 13, 2008, 07:13:25 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 12, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
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And Stratellites can't stay up in the sky for too long either. Unlike Satellites

Ever heard of solar power?
How does solar power keep a balloon up?  ???
Energy collected via solar cells can power fans....since it's a stratellite there is atmosphere for the fans to move.
I don't see how fans and solar cells (Highly inefficient) Can keep a large piece of equipment in the air.
If you did your research on stratellites you would understand.  Please research a little bit before asking stupid questions in the future.
Uh stratellites are held up by low density gases, now I'm assuming you think that they are up there for the same time as a satellite when in reality they can only stay up for 18 months. So how does a fan keep it up there for longer? I haven't seen any solar power Helicopters yet so I don't see what you are getting at.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2008, 08:08:27 AM »
You really need to do some research on the subject. "I don't understand how..." doesn't make anything true or false.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2008, 08:12:42 AM »
I did do some research and I can't see anyway that a Stratallite can stay up for longer than 18 months. Solar power will not replace gas or repair the balloon.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2008, 09:17:20 AM »
Yes, and DARPA/NASA has a public project with a five year endurance mission. Why do you think they couldn't swap a stratallite out when it needs maintenance?
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2008, 09:23:53 AM »
Quote from: Ski on May 13, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
Yes, and DARPA/NASA has a public project with a five year endurance mission. Why do you think they couldn't swap a stratallite out when it needs maintenance?
I just assumed that every 18 months for every "Satellite" in "orbit" that it would be very difficult to hide.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2008, 09:26:35 AM »
Way cheaper than the budget we're told a "real" satellite costs.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2008, 10:30:51 AM »
you people are pro-trolls he misspelled a word and as such you ridicule him to damn near no end, fun.   ;D
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2008, 10:34:22 AM »
Quote from: lived_eht_asan on May 13, 2008, 09:26:35 AM
Way cheaper than the budget we're told a "real" satellite costs.

Aye.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 10:36:52 AM »
Quote from: Bravehat on May 13, 2008, 10:30:51 AM
you people are pro-trolls he misspelled a word and as such you ridicule him to damn near no end, fun.   ;D

What are you referencing?  What misspelt word?
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2008, 10:45:00 AM »
Ok so what is all the talk of "stratellites" for then i assume he misspelled satellites and then edited before i seen it, and everyone hear ridiucled him for it.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2008, 10:49:23 AM »
Oh, well you assumed wrong....

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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2008, 10:52:42 AM »
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Ok so what is all the talk of "stratellites" for then i assume he misspelled satellites and then edited before i seen it, and everyone hear ridiucled him for it.

No. Satellites and stratellites are two entirely different technologies.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2008, 10:53:51 AM »
Quote from: Bravehat on May 13, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
Ok so what is all the talk of "stratellites" for then i assume he misspelled satellites and then edited before i seen it, and everyone hear ridiucled him for it.

Yes, I assumed that's what you assumed.
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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2008, 09:01:40 PM »
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2008, 09:16:33 PM »
Quote from: lived_eht_asan on May 13, 2008, 09:26:35 AM
Way cheaper than the budget we're told a "real" satellite costs.

Per unit, yes. Per coverage, no.
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Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2008, 09:22:40 PM »
Quote from: MessiahOfFire on May 13, 2008, 09:01:40 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_artificial_satellites_and_space_probes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite
http://www.howstuffworks.com/satellite.htm

Let me get this straight...  the majority of people believe something.  We ask why, and you point to articles which collect common knowledge, telling us what the majority of people believe?  That's pretty circular.

Do you have any actual _evidence_ that satellites orbit the earth in space?
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2008, 09:26:39 PM »
Quote from: Beeper on May 13, 2008, 05:25:32 AM
What if i point my webcam at my clock, leave it on for 24 hours a day and say it proves teh existance of the might Clock God of Orion VIII? would you think that is solid evidence?

You must be an idiot. I clearly stated that you must also (after tracking an over head satellite using the page provided) then go outside on a clear night and have a look with your own eyes using a telescope and you will be able to see it. They look NOTHING like the stratollites proposed by these FE fools. The reason is, because Stratollites need helium to stay lifted. Meaning that there must be a huge area holding it. But that is not observable on the Satellites that you can see using a good telescope.
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof of Satellites
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2008, 09:27:46 PM »
Quote from: lived_eht_asan on May 13, 2008, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: MessiahOfFire on May 13, 2008, 09:01:40 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_artificial_satellites_and_space_probes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite
http://www.howstuffworks.com/satellite.htm

Let me get this straight...  the majority of people believe something.  We ask why, and you point to articles which collect common knowledge, telling us what the majority of people believe?  That's pretty circular.

Do you have any actual _evidence_ that satellites orbit the earth in space?

What? Are you saying that those webpages are make believe? If you want evidence, look at my previous post.
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