Explain these Round Earth Photos

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Explain these Round Earth Photos
« on: April 04, 2008, 05:57:38 PM »
All images are from http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/group_page/ER.html

Take a look at the gallery, specifically the Apollo images. It may come as surprising to see that NASA only took an average of one photograph of the earth per Apollo mission. This lack of photographic evidence for a Round Earth is a curiosity because there is no reason to take only one or two pictures of the earth over the course of a two week long mission considering that the crew had plenty of time to spend in earth orbit and during the long voyage between the earth and moon. It couldn't be that the extra film was too heavy to carry either, since we are led to believe that the Apollo capsules could easily carry a car and hundreds of pounds of rocks between the earth and moon. So why do so few photographs exist of a Round Earth?

None the less, lets move on and take a look at the photos we do have.

According to the Round Earth Theory the earth is a near perfect sphere except for a very slight flatness at the North and South. The diameter from the North Pole to the South Pole (the shortest diameter) is listed as 12,714 km. The equatorial diameter (the longest diameter) is listed as 12,756 km. This creates a near perfect globe which curves in three dimensions. This considered, the earth must create an arc of a circle no matter the angle it is observed at.

Image A from Apollo 16

From NASA's website: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/a16_h_118_18873.gif

Highlighted: http://i28.tinypic.com/dwpgsi.gif

Notice here that the earth does not create an arc of a circle, but rather exists as more of an egg shape The roundest parts are up north while the flattest parts are nearest the equator. Even if the deformity of the earth were visible (it shouldn't be), this image shows the opposite of what we're told. Why is the earth shaped like an egg?

Image with adjusted levels: http://i1.tinypic.com/6jdtwlz.jpg

When we adjust the levels to bring out the green on the image we see that someone has sloppily hidden away a number of features. What is NASA hiding from us? What don't they want us to see?

Lets do some more searching and find out: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

It seems that they slipped up, because on another part of their website they have access to an unedited version. It appears that NASA has deliberately blotted out the stars, thereby giving us a false representation of the earth.

(Note: NASA blots out the stars in its earth images because an amateur astronomer could easily see that the stars do not match up to known constellations. Since the image of the earth is warped through a Fish-Eye lens or other warping technique to create its rotundity the stars in the scene are also warped - essentially creating entirely new constellations.)

Despite these obvious edits and warpings, lets move on

Image B from Apollo 12

From NASA's website:: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/a12_h_50_7326.gif

Highlighted: http://i31.tinypic.com/vg1ilh.gif

The image of the earth from Apollo 12 seems equally curious as the earth is not an arc of a circle. I thought it was supposed to be a near perfect sphere. Why is the earth so malformed?

Image C from Apollo 16

From NASA's Website: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/a16_h_118_18885.gif

Image with adjusted levels: http://i16.tinypic.com/6x1322x.jpg

When we adjust the levels and bring out the green it appears as if the image has been deliberately warped by some means to force it into a circular shape. Such a scene could not occur in nature, as the green should come out evenly in pictures. Why is NASA deliberately modifying these pictures?

Image D from Apollo 15

From NASA's Website: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/a15_h_91_12343.gif

Image with adjusted levels: http://i25.tinypic.com/2cdttdu.jpg

Again we see deliberate image editing. Why can't the color green exist in a conspicuous oval around the earth?

Image E from Apollo 17

From NASA's Website: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/a17_h_148_22742.gif

Image with adjusted levels: http://i32.tinypic.com/2090l68.jpg

It almost seems as if NASA is artificially creating the rotundity of the earth, doesn't it?

Conclusion

In conclusion, it's obvious to everyone that NASA's few Apollo images of the earth have been tampered with to create the illusion of looking at a spherical earth. If the earth were truly spherical, NASA wouldn't need to edit their pictures.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 06:06:21 PM »
We've covered this.

http://www.gfz-potsdam.de/pb1/op/champ/media_CHAMP/champ_gps_halfgeo.gif

This is one of many images of the actual shape of the earth. It's actualyl fairly egg shaped when you add in the water. Search the Geodessy plab for more information.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 06:09:09 PM »
Perhaps you weren't following along. The Round Earth model holds that the earth is a near perfect sphere, with very slight flatness at the North and South. In Image A from Apollo 16 it appears as if the flattest parts are at the equator and the roundest parts are at the North Pole, completely contradictory to what we are told.

Even in your image, it appears as if the flattest parts are still at the equator, when we're told that the flattest parts are at the North and South.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 06:10:48 PM »
What's a phorogtaph?

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 06:10:56 PM »
Perhaps you weren't following along. The Round Earth model holds that the earth is a near perfect sphere, with very slight flatness at the North and South. In the images it appears as if the flattest parts are at the equator, completely contradictory to what we are told.
Perhaps you didn't see my post regarding Geodesy, the study of the geoid that is the earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesy
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 06:12:18 PM »
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 06:14:44 PM »
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Perhaps you didn't see my post regarding Geodesy, the study of the geoid that is the earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesy

So you admit that your model is mistaken about where the flattest parts of the earth are?

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photogtaphs
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2008, 06:16:08 PM »
OK, so you fixed it. What's a photogtaph?

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Phorogtaphs
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 06:16:37 PM »
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Perhaps you didn't see my post regarding Geodesy, the study of the geoid that is the earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesy

So you admit that your model is mistaken about where the flattest parts of the earth are?

How is my model mistaken? I am following what Geodesy is. Christ, NASA has a whole LAB for it. Surely they believe in it to some degree :).
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photogtaphs
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2008, 06:18:18 PM »
OK, so you fixed it. What's a photogtaph?

OK, you fixed it again. Was PHOTOGRAPH too hard to spell?

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 06:21:30 PM »
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How is my model mistaken? I am following what Geodesy is. Christ, NASA has a whole LAB for it. Surely they believe in it to some degree

I was told that the flattest parts of the earth are at the North and South. Not at the equator.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 06:22:35 PM »
Out of intrest, what where the photos taken through?

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 06:23:22 PM »
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How is my model mistaken? I am following what Geodesy is. Christ, NASA has a whole LAB for it. Surely they believe in it to some degree

I was told that the flattest parts of the earth are at the North and South. Not at the equator.

You lose.
Oh, you were told that eh? Who told you, NASA? Or your neighbour? I think I win this one, especially since what I showed you matches what you were saying. Its egg shaped..
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 06:25:40 PM »
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Out of intrest, what where the photos taken through?

They were taken with Hasselblad cameras.

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Oh, you were told that eh? Who told you, NASA? Or your neighbour? I think I win this one, especially since what I showed you matches what you were saying. Its egg shaped..

Uh, did you even look at NASA's other images? All full images of the earth are perfect circles. In the full shot images of the earth all curvature takes the form of an arc of a circle.

How can the earth appear to be egg shaped in one image and a circle in the next?

How is that possible? Please explain.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 06:33:57 PM »
Hey I bet if we pull a shitload of pictures from the cesspool of bullshit that is the internet, we can find one of the earth with a skewed perspective that doesn't prove anything at all!

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 06:38:55 PM »
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Out of intrest, what where the photos taken through?

They were taken with Hasselblad cameras.

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Oh, you were told that eh? Who told you, NASA? Or your neighbour? I think I win this one, especially since what I showed you matches what you were saying. Its egg shaped..

Uh, did you even look at NASA's other images? All full images of the earth are perfect circles. In the full shot images of the earth all curvature takes the form of an arc of a circle.

How can the earth appear to be egg shaped in one image and a circle in the next?

How is that possible? Please explain.
Perspective? Angle? You're telling me pictures are proof now? lol. Pictures can certainly convey a false positive.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 07:30:48 PM »
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You're telling me pictures are proof now?

You guys keep claiming that these pictures are proof. In response I've conclusively demonstrated that these images have been tampered with.

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Hey I bet if we pull a shitload of pictures from the cesspool of bullshit that is the internet, we can find one of the earth with a skewed perspective that doesn't prove anything at all!

Oh right, NASA just looked at the spherical earth at a wrong angle in order to get it to look like an egg.  ::)
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2008, 07:42:58 PM »
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You're telling me pictures are proof now?

You guys keep claiming that these pictures are proof. In response I've conclusively demonstrated that these images have been tampered with.
Conclusively, yes... right. I think you need a few lessons in photo anipulation. You put all this faith in NASA with all this bullshit conspiracy but they hire a fourth-grader for their photoshoping? Good to know.

You're the one claiming that photos aren't proof, so I no longer rely on them for proof. If you don't believe ours, why would be believe yours?
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2008, 09:15:37 PM »
Tom, why is it that these "Enhanced" photos look like you just used the fill option from Microsoft Pain and dumped green all over the background?
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 09:18:45 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2008, 09:26:01 PM »
You know what a likely explanation for the black area around the Earth is?  The layers of the atmosphere.  They bend the light so it doesn't reach the camera in exactly the same way, but with everything in the background as featureless black space it's hard to see the difference unless you sharpen the image to its maxiumum value and zoom in really close.
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2008, 09:38:32 PM »
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Out of intrest, what where the photos taken through?

They were taken with Hasselblad cameras.

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Oh, you were told that eh? Who told you, NASA? Or your neighbour? I think I win this one, especially since what I showed you matches what you were saying. Its egg shaped..

Uh, did you even look at NASA's other images? All full images of the earth are perfect circles. In the full shot images of the earth all curvature takes the form of an arc of a circle.

How can the earth appear to be egg shaped in one image and a circle in the next?

How is that possible? Please explain.

Hey Tom.  Did you hear about a neat little device that NASA uses on their space craft.  It allows the astronauts to see out side the craft with out all of the air leaking out.  It's called a window.  They come in all shapes and sizes.  The Apollo craft had some round ones.  And did you ever notice that sometimes when you look at a round window from an angle, it looks like an oval?  Maybe, just maybe some of those pictures were through a round window at an angle.

Oh, by the way, windows are notorious for collecting dust which can show up on pictures taken through said windows.

One more thing.  On a round earth, the side facing the sun is nice and bright, while the other is dark and hard to see (let alone photograph).  Perhaps some of those photos that show the nice and bright part of the earth also a bit of the unlit, dark and hard to photograph side as well.  You know, phases of the earth, just like phases of the moon.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2008, 12:23:00 AM »
Another worthless argument brought to you by the letter Tom. 
lol. its explained in the first post. But apparently the earth is a perfect sphere, so I guess we're ALL wrong. I mean, its obvious that earth is the only perfect sphere in the universe we're aware of. Why didn't I see it before?
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2008, 02:39:03 AM »
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You put all this faith in NASA with all this bullshit conspiracy but they hire a fourth-grader for their photoshoping? Good to know.

Right, you'd think that with the trillions of dollars which have been invested into NASA and with all of their self-claimed experts they could come up with something better than these obvious frauds.

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Tom, why is it that these "Enhanced" photos look like you just used the fill option from Microsoft Pain and dumped green all over the background?

The only thing I did to those images was adjust the color levels to bring out the color green. That's all I did. It seems that either the earth has been warped or something man-made is wrapped around the earth in order to give it its rotundity. Combined with the obvious editing out of the stars, anyone can see that NASA has tampered their images.

You are welcome to reproduce my methods on the original NASA hosted images if you'd like.

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And did you ever notice that sometimes when you look at a round window from an angle, it looks like an oval?  Maybe, just maybe some of those pictures were through a round window at an angle.

Really? What angle do you have to look at a sphere to turn it into an egg?  ::)

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Oh, by the way, windows are notorious for collecting dust which can show up on pictures taken through said windows.

That 'dust' doesn't overlap the earth. Sorry.

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lol. its explained in the first post. But apparently the earth is a perfect sphere, so I guess we're ALL wrong. I mean, its obvious that earth is the only perfect sphere in the universe we're aware of. Why didn't I see it before?

The earth can't both be both an arc of a circle and egg shaped. It kind of needs to be one or the other.

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You know what a likely explanation for the black area around the Earth is?  The layers of the atmosphere.  They bend the light so it doesn't reach the camera in exactly the same way, but with everything in the background as featureless black space it's hard to see the difference unless you sharpen the image to its maxiumum value and zoom in really close.

Yeah right. When we adjusted the levels and brought out the green in Image A there wasn't a mysterious solid black ring of nothingness wrapped around the earth. Image A was taken with the exact same Hasselblad Apollo 16 camera as Image C. If this is a natural phenomenon, why didn't it appear there?
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2008, 04:49:41 AM »
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They were taken with Hasselblad cameras.

I was asking what they were taken though, not with. I was wondering if there was a chance that they were taken though the windows of the spacecraft.

You may also want top bear in mind that the screen you are using it view it may have an effect. A 4:3 screen may display it a little squashed, whereas a widescreen will show it as a lot flatter. A number of screens, especially CRT and projector screens, also allow you to freely adjust settings such as the width, hight and keystone of an image, which means that there's all manner of displays that the image will seem slightly skewed on.

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2008, 07:57:50 AM »
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Oh, by the way, windows are notorious for collecting dust which can show up on pictures taken through said windows.

That 'dust' doesn't overlap the earth. Sorry.
Look closer.  I see some dark specks on Mexico and on the water.  I also see some scratches near Baja and near the upper right corner of the picture. 

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

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The earth can't both be both an arc of a circle and egg shaped. It kind of needs to be one or the other.

You're right, it can't be both at the same time.  But, under the right conditions, it can APPEAR to be almost anything.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2008, 09:33:31 AM »
Images liek these have already been proved real.  They matched the weather to them.  Everything matched up.  Doing some kind of fake analysis does not prove anything. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2008, 10:55:10 AM »
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You're right, it can't be both at the same time.  But, under the right conditions, it can APPEAR to be almost anything.

Right conditions? What conditions does it take for a sphere to look like an egg?

Oh right, NASA was just looking at a sphere at the wrong angle.  ::)

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Images liek these have already been proved real.  They matched the weather to them.  Everything matched up.  Doing some kind of fake analysis does not prove anything.

Of course the weather patterns would match up to the NOAA's publications. They're Flat Earth images warped into a Round Earth.

Didn't you see the solid black ring of nothingness wrapped around the earth? How do you guys explain that?

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Look closer.  I see some dark specks on Mexico and on the water.  I also see some scratches near Baja and near the upper right corner of the picture.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

Dark specks? What are you talking about? These specs are white. They don't overlap the earth. There's even one which is sitting partially obscured by the earth.

The main purpose of this wasn't to prove that they were stars, or that the earth is flat, or any of that. The main purpose of this thread was to conclusively demonstrate that NASA is deliberately tampering with the images. Do you still deny that they are?
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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2008, 11:42:23 AM »
I must admit that most of the images just seem to be a picture of the Earth that's been cut out and placed on a blank background for the sake of aesthetics. I can't see any obvious traces of manipulation, such as the continents or clouds being stretched or squashed out of proportion.

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Re: Explain these Round Earth Photos
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2008, 12:38:11 PM »
So you're saying that NASA used the round selection tool to paste the earth from one black background to another black background? Why would they tamper with the images like that? Was the original pitch black background of space not black enough for them or something?

Why should we trust images which have been tampered with?
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