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But flatman, all the pics you show depict a flat, circulat Earth! . You're just contradicting yourself.
You should look for real proof of what you say instead of ranting, or go to the "ranting" forum.

If the world is flat then how come the globe I have in my room is spherical? Have I been lied to all my life? This is so depressing, it makes me want to hurt myself.

No, dont do anything rash, this wont solve anything. Just dont do anything to hurt yourself.

I just dont know what to do, I can feel the depression getting a hold of me again. That knife looks so inviting, I can feel my wrists aching for it. What do I do?

Please dont do anything! Just go to sleep and everything will seem alright in the morning. Just dont hurt yourself.

Its no use, I'm going to do it. You cant stop me, I dont want to live in a flat world full of lies. I wish I'd never visited this site now.

Goodbye

The easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance. Astronauts and space probes have done just that. Every picture of Earth ever taken shows only a circular shape, and the only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere.

One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are the best.

You can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various government agencies and private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way. Pictures and videos taken by orbiting satellites and space stations are certainly the most definitive proof that the earth is a sphere.

But if you're not convinced, read on...

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

The Greeks discovered that the earth is round by observing lunar eclipses (i.e. when the earth blocks the sun from the moon, casting its round shadow on the moon's surface).

Another method is simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

If I were a billionaire and physically fit, then proving to you the earth is round would be no problem. I can just take you with me on the space shuttle and we'll watch with our own eyes the earth from the orbiting International Space Station.

^  that is why the earth is round dumbasses plus ive personally have been to the mahabi desert and there you can see the curve of the earth!! literally!! your always talkign about beliveing what you see well belive that MOFO

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Your verbal abuse is shocking. Profanities instead of arguments reveal your own insecurities about the Round Earth Hypothesis.

No, it shows how fucking stupid I think you are. Obviously you can't use real arguments, logic and facts against someone who is brtainwashed enough to think the earth is flat. Therefore I won't even try, and I'm just gonna give you the facts: you are a retard.

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The picture of the earth disc is not illustrative of anything

It illustrates that the earth is round and that you're a fucking douchebag. Maybe if you showed me a pic of the wall of ice... oh wait, IT DOESN'T EXIST!!

The idea of this whole website is INCREDIBLY STUPID AND POINTLESS AND A WASTE OF GOOD INTERNET AND SERVER SPACE!!!! I AGREE WITH EVERYONE WHO THINKS THIS SITE IS A COMPLETE JOKE!

The easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance.

I think we have our answer. To prove to the flat-earthers that the world really is round, we should just send them all to the moon...and leave them there. :lol:

Arguments both for an against the round  and flat earth hypthesises are totally wrong. The Earth is actually cube shaped. This fact should be glaringly obvious to everyone!

No, it's a dodecahedron!

You are all losing sight of the big picture here, with your bickering and petty recriminations. I haven't heard one person refering to the really terrifying part in all this, which is : If the Earth is flat - as we must assume it to be, for obvious reasons - what are the governments of the world decieving us FOR? What perverse purpose can they have? And how the hell have they created such a sophisticated illusion as the 'round Earth'?

This is scary shit! When people hear about this there's gonna be hell to pay. Does anyone know anything about holograms? Maybe it could all be done with holograms like on Star Trek?:twisted:

...what are the governments of the world decieving us FOR? What perverse purpose can they have? And how the hell have they created such a sophisticated illusion as the 'round Earth'?

That's the most coherent argument against a flat earth I have read on this forum!

Well done!

 

If the Earth is flat - as we must assume it to be, for obvious reasons - what are the governments of the world decieving us FOR? What perverse purpose can they have? And how the hell have they created such a sophisticated illusion as the 'round Earth'?

As I have said elsewhere; if the Governments of the world revealled that the world was flat people would think they were mad and no-one would vote for them. They have to maintain the pretence in order to stay in power.

What about countries that aren't democratic?  The U.S. isn't the only country to have gone into space you know.  Not to mention that national governments are not the only organizations to go into space.  Your explanation is severely inadequate.

Add to the fact that one of the major superpowers, USSR, was Communist.  They too went into space and said that the world was round.

As I have said elsewhere; if the Governments of the world revealled that the world was flat people would think they were mad and no-one would vote for them. They have to maintain the pretence in order to stay in power.

Why would people think the Government 'mad' for revealing the earth to be flat? Maybe because it is such a ridiculous idea? Would they not have proof?

And if it is so sensible for it to be flat, surely people wouldn't need much convincing?

This forum amply illustrates how resistant people would be to such a paradigm shift

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As I have said elsewhere; if the Governments of the world revealled that the world was flat people would think they were mad and no-one would vote for them. They have to maintain the pretence in order to stay in power.

Why would people think the Government 'mad' for revealing the earth to be flat? Maybe because it is such a ridiculous idea? Would they not have proof?

And if it is so sensible for it to be flat, surely people wouldn't need much convincing?

Listen, pal. People have rioted and fought wars over less. Introduction of the Gregorian calandar - riots. Catholic vs. Protestant - wars. Believe me, letting this one out of the bag is just too dangerous. It ain't going to happen in my lifetime but that doesn't mean its not true.

Who's beliefs does a flat earth nullify?  Now, the other way around would be more dangerous.  If the earth were really round, but everyone believed it to be flat and hinged their religious beliefs on such a claim, providing evidence for it to be round would be dangerous.  And of course, this is exactly what happened in the real world - just look at the Church's reaction to Galileo.
The key problem for flat-earthers isn't "Why would the government keep it a secret" (or how, or is it the same for every governement, or how could they afford the enormous costs etc...) -  the problem is that the evidence is conclusive for a round earth

Just you wait 100 years, we'll see who's right.

Why can't we just examine the evidence now to see who is right?  Or, at least, who is more likely to be right, and to what degree?   Start a thread and make your case if you really do want to champion that position.  I'll be more than happy to participate.

I can't believe peoples outright refusal to even contemplate that the Earth may be flat rather than round, you always get that old chest nut 'But why don't boats etc fall off the edge?'.  Its simple really, it's the same reason that people in Australia and Argentina don't fall off this so-called spherical planet, that is to say Gravity.

Is it so hard to believe that when you reach the 'Edge of the planet, you simply flip over to the other side and continue your voyage without ever knowing what just happened?, I believe not.

   My theory on the fact that no-one has seen the actual edge boils down to light inversion, rather like a desert mirage, where the air gets heated at the edges of the earth, and the hot air above the rim reflects the other side, so that anyone traveling towards it, would not see any change in terrain.

My "theory" is that invisible pink elephants blow hot gasses around the planet with hallucinogenic properties that make people think the earth is round when it's really flat!!
Hey it's as good as your theory, at least.

Hey that works!  And the Pasta Monster thingy god thingy is what made the Elephents Right?

if your gonna say that infidel why not say the earth is a sphere and not be a stupid penguin? it is not possible for the earth to be flat! the sun would never set, there would be no seasons, and nothing else would make sense! in fact! i think ill eat  a sock puppet, becasue that makes as much sense as the earth being flat!

Hey that works!  And the Pasta Monster thingy god thingy is what made the Elephents Right?

I think that goes without saying.

i recommend that Daniel starts a pictures section and show some actual "proof" of a flat earth

(if there is any)

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