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Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« on: February 09, 2008, 07:28:26 AM »
The following photographs, taken by Thierry Legault and David Cortner (two of the most respected photographers) (shown on CNN and other massmedia outlets), offer the true distance from the Sun to the International Space Station (ISS)/Atlantis shuttle.

There are no 149.000.000 million kilometers between the Sun and the Earth; as these photographs clearly show, right behind the ISS/Atlantis is the Sun, at just a few kilometers (or even less) in the background.

Between the ISS/Atlantis and the Sun are only a few kilometers and not the 148.999.600 kilometers we have been lied to with.

http://www.astrophoto.fr/iss_shuttle_crop.jpg

http://www.astrophoto.fr/iss_shuttle_50.jpg

The next two photographs show exactly the same distance from Venus/Mercury to the Sun, as in the photographs taken with ISS/Atlantis shuttle, and moreover, the same dimensions, of just 50-75 meters (50 meters Mercury, 75-100 meters Venus) in diameter; it was well known in the ancient world that the stars are very small (with the exception of Jupiter, Saturn, and Tiamat/Nibiru).


http://www.davidcortner.com/astro/vtransit/asd_1470ct.jpg

http://members.chello.at/merkur/Merkurtransit_7Mai10h52_NehGen.jpg


The Iss/Atlantis shuttle/station is maneuvered by remote control, with no astronauts aboard; it uses the Nikola Tesla Cosmic Ray Device (as do all the satellites, whether geosynchronous or orbital, to orbit above the earth).


Images which show how close to the Earth are the planets and the stars:


http://gal.neogen.ro/galleries/pictures/m/v/0000r6ws_mvyca1xs.jpg
http://gal.neogen.ro/galleries/pictures/y/3/0000r6ws_y3vidb75.jpg (venus, mercury, saturn)

Orbits of stars around the North Pole:
http://www.fixedearth.com/Size_and_Structure%20Part%20IV.htm

http://gal.neogen.ro/galleries/pictures/i/5/0000r6ws_i534vexn.gif
http://gal.neogen.ro/galleries/pictures/p/p/0000r6ws_ppazeqe2.gif
http://gal.neogen.ro/galleries/pictures/t/p/0000r6ws_tpq8hvfz.gif
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Re: Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 07:34:35 AM »
Again, sorry to doubt you (read your Gravitons thing), but a few of those pictures look like someone drew on a yellow beach ball with a sharpie. Isn't the sun all fiery?
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Re: Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 07:45:25 AM »
No, most of the images taken from SOHO satellite are false; Thierry Legault and David Cortner are two well known photographers who do not believe the flat earth theory; these images have been shown all over the massmedia, including CNN.
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Re: Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2008, 07:50:46 AM »
Wait, just to clarify, which pictures are you saying are fake: the ones you submitted, or the ones that show the sun as "all fiery?"
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2008, 10:06:58 AM »
The ones I submitted are all photographed in real time. The SOHO satellite provides false pictures/images of the Sun.

Here is Legault's site:

http://www.astrosurf.com/legault/iss_atlantis_transit.html
(notice how he is mislead by the official Atlantis-Earth distance of 400 km; Atlantis only reaches about 25 km, if that much, it cannot reach further).

Here is Cortner's site:

http://www.davidcortner.com/astro/vtransit/
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2008, 11:02:18 AM »
I'm interested to see what system you used to determine the distance in this photograph.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 11:28:11 AM »
From where I stand, I think that about 148,999,600 km are missing from the picture, don't you think so?

These pictures show, and I think that you do agree, that we have been lied to as to the nature of the Earth-Sun distance. And who invented these distances for us? Why, of course, the same rosicrucians who gave us Kepler, Galileo, Newton and Hubble.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 11:33:03 AM »
And yet you have no proof. There is no method in that photograph by which the distance can be measured. Until you prove that you can, you fail.
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Re: Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 11:38:25 AM »
Not at all; as you can clearly see, the Sun's diameter is much smaller than what is officialy accepted, and much closer than you think. I understand your argumentation, and where you want to go with it, but these photographs do tell the real story, and the truth about the Sun-Earth distance.

Please access that big bang impossibility link to see how your Sun could not possibly have formed in the first place; I think that you will find many surprises and interesting arguments there.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 11:39:35 AM »
Interesting, yes. But of no consequence. Please, do show us, mathematically, why the sun cannot be as far away from these pictures.
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Re: Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 11:43:49 AM »
Because, mathematically, the Sun could not be 148,999,600 km away from the ISS/Atlantis, given the relative sizes offered by the pictures. Also, you can see clearly that Mercury is the same size and at the same distance from the Sun as is the Atlantis, what does that tell you? Or you think that there are 69,000,000 km between the dark spot (Mercury) in the photo and the Sun?
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 11:45:35 AM »
Well, how does mercury, which according to your theory, orbits the sun above the earth, get between the sun and the earth to form this photo?
Do you think the sun is merely a few thousand meters behind the ISS?
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Re: Venus/Mercury/Iss-Atlantis Sun Transit - True distance Earth - Sun
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 11:51:15 AM »
Mercury and Venus both orbit the Sun. Together they orbit above the Earth with the other planets/stars.

Yes, as these photos show us, the Sun is just a few thousand meters behind the Iss; that the Sun is very close to the earth, and that is has the same diameter as the Moon (but the Moon does not cause the solar eclipse), was very well known from antiquity.

If you want to find out what causes both the solar/lunar eclipses, research the subject Black Sun.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 11:52:49 AM »
The photos don't show us anything about distance. How about you prove me wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 11:54:58 AM »
They show that the distance between Sun-Mercury and Sun-Atlantis is about the same; and that their diameter is also the same, that is why they are so important.

I will offer here, soon, the proofs you need to find out how all the NASA/JPL missions were faked; also how, exactly, the space shuttle flights are faked.
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 11:55:36 AM »
Quote from: levee on February 09, 2008, 11:54:58 AM
They show that the distance between Sun-Mercury and Sun-Atlantis is about the same; and that their diameter is also the same, that is why they are so important.

I will offer here, soon, the proofs you need to find out how all the NASA/JPL missions were faked; also how, exactly, the space shuttle flights are faked.
No they don't.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 03:27:10 PM »
I agree with Agent. There's absolutely nothing in those photos to suggest that the sun isn't massive and distant.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2008, 05:35:28 AM »
Firealox, very impressive (your comments).

These photographs show that the distance Sun-Iss, Sun-Mercury is about the same, and that the sizes of the space shuttle/planets (Mercury) are about the same. You might say otherwise, but they show you the real distance Sun-Earth, which is not the 149,000,000 km we have been lied to with. You might change your description from Rational to Sentimental.

http://www.astrophoto.fr/iss_shuttle_crop.jpg

http://www.astrophoto.fr/iss_shuttle_50.jpg

http://www.davidcortner.com/astro/vtransit/asd_1470ct.jpg

http://members.chello.at/merkur/Merkurtransit_7Mai10h52_NehGen.jpg
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2008, 05:37:26 AM »
Quote from: levee on February 10, 2008, 05:35:28 AM
Firealox, very impressive (your comments).

These photographs show that the distance Sun-Iss, Sun-Mercury is about the same, and that the sizes of the space shuttle/planets (Mercury) are about the same. You might say otherwise, but they show you the real distance Sun-Earth, which is not the 149,000,000 km we have been lied to with. You might change your description from Rational to Sentimental.

http://www.astrophoto.fr/iss_shuttle_crop.jpg

http://www.astrophoto.fr/iss_shuttle_50.jpg

http://www.davidcortner.com/astro/vtransit/asd_1470ct.jpg

http://members.chello.at/merkur/Merkurtransit_7Mai10h52_NehGen.jpg

They show nothing of the sort. Explain to me how these photographs portray information about distance, or how a 3-dimensional situation can be recreated from a 2-dimensional image.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2008, 05:41:59 AM »
Look closely and carefully (remove your glasses). Then you will see that the distance Mercury-Sun, and ISS-Sun is the same (about the same), given that there is a dome between the Iss and Sun, while Mercury is on the other side, so to speak.

Same distance, same size; that's is why these Sun transits were so important, because once and for all we could see the real or true sizes and distances of Mercury relative to the Sun/Iss.
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2008, 05:42:55 AM »
Quote from: levee on February 10, 2008, 05:41:59 AM
Look closely and carefully (remove your glasses). Then you will see that the distance Mercury-Sun, and ISS-Sun is the same (about the same), given that there is a dome between the Iss and Sun, while Mercury is on the other side, so to speak.

Same distance, same size; that's is why these Sun transits were so important, because once and for all we could see the real or true sizes and distances of Mercury relative to the Sun/Iss.
Different size, different distances. You haven't backed up this claim.
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2008, 05:46:14 AM »
If you look closely, and get rid of your preconceived ideas regarding the sun-earth distance, you will find that the claim made by the flat earth society (a sun of 50 km in diameter, 32 miles) is very wrong; given that Mercury/Iss have about 50 m in diameter, it looks like the Sun actually has about 5 km in diameter, that is what these photographs show.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2008, 05:47:57 AM »
What? If they are sitting on the sun?
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2008, 05:50:30 AM »
Look, Levee, in a 2D photo, size and distance are related to each other, the further something is aay the smaller it is. Since you cannot tell the distance in a photo, you cannot tell the size. Since you don't know the size, you cannot tell the difference.
Stop trying to fool us into thinking you can.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2008, 05:52:28 AM »
The official Nasa photographs have fooled you so far, not me.

Again, the sun is shown in these photographs to be much closer to Iss/Mercury than the official data/measurements; but if you believe what Nasa is showing you, given the Apollo missions and how they were falsified, you are free to do so.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2008, 05:53:57 AM »
You still haven't shown how you know the distances/sizes from these photos.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2008, 05:56:19 AM »
Quote from: levee on February 10, 2008, 05:46:14 AM
If you look closely, and get rid of your preconceived ideas regarding the sun-earth distance, you will find that the claim made by the flat earth society (a sun of 50 km in diameter, 32 miles) is very wrong; given that Mercury/Iss have about 50 m in diameter, it looks like the Sun actually has about 5 km in diameter, that is what these photographs show.

Oh my god, these clouds are bigger than the Sun!!!!
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2008, 05:57:08 AM »
Ah! They will surely devour us all!
Oh God, my hand is bigger than the sun!
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2008, 07:22:11 AM »
Right On!!!...

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2008, 07:26:32 AM »
That's a bit short..
who are you and what have you done with Levee?
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